>Nathaniel Greene died before the Consitutional Convention
>literally died from standing out in the sun in a field inspecting some crops for too long
>Champion of the Southern Campaign during the Revolution
>Washington would have tapped him for Secretary of State over Jefferson
>immediate Senate approval
>all subsequent US history shifts to a timeline we can't even fathom
>he was only 43when he died
>absolutely would have been president at some point

>>17812871 (OP)
what makes this the "Jefferson timeline"

During the salem witch trials...

The very first trial was brought against a house slave by some young girls, they claimed she bewitched/place a spell on them.

Fast forward
Dozens of people are accused, tried and executed.
Fast forward
At the end up of the insanity that original house slave was let go and the charges dropped. Everyone came to their senses and realized how absurd the whole incident was
fast forward a little more
That same house slave is accused/tried and found guilty of enchantments, she had advised someone that they should piss in a cake and consume it to make a spell work (can't remember the details). She serves a little time and then is let go.

da fuck...almost as if

>>17812941
The loss of a second Adams administration and Jefferson filling in the role of a "Southern leader" instead of someone like Greene who was a Northerner that was respected by the South. Adams would have also likely tapped Greene instead of Hamilton during the Quasi-War with France, defusing that mess.
I honestly can't even begin to speculate on how Greene living would have changed the course of events because there simply is no one even remotely comparable to him to go off of.

The Battle of Las Mercedes, a key engagement during the Cuban Revolution, unfolded as a tactical trap set by the Cuban army to surround and destroy Fidel Castro's forces. While the army initially had the upper hand, Fidel Castro secured a cease-fire and, during the negotiations, his troops managed to escape back into the mountains. Latin America could’ve been saved from communism if they had eliminated Castro right then and there. Trusting him was retarded and made no sense.

>>17812871 (OP)
Titanic. If not for that piece of shit we could've kept building bigger and bigger ships with no consequences.

>>17813084
You must be one of those people who are really torn up about the planned sinking of the SS United States

>>17813084
this but with the hindenberg
weve been deprived of sky cruise kino because some retards thought thermite would make for good paint on a hydrogen filled balloon

>>17813144
unfortunately britain, france, USA etc all have similar stories of great airships that killed the key figures in the field

>>17813084
>what are modern cruise ships
Anon, I...

>>17812871 (OP)
>assassination of arch duke ferdinand leading to WW1 and the immediate bedshitting preventing a united europe from eliminating bolshevism uprisings

>>17813619
How's middleschool?

>>17813084
We did though.

>>17813022
What major differences would it have made?

>>17813639
Anon... if you have to ask you're not historically literate enough to understand any of them.

>>17813623
Awesome, the jello at lunch is great

>>17813631
not without consequences

>>17812956
"Witches are real"/"The witchhunts were amateurish but not completely misguided" is one of the final historical redpills.

>>17813733
I feel like that's not true. I feel like after you learn that, you learn that the witches were actually the good guys, persecuted by the evil Christians who wanted a monopoly on the supernatural, and are the literal reason why we don't live in a Harry Potter novel today.

>>17813743
>>17813733
>>17812956
I'm southern Romanian ( not a gypsy) and my great grandmother was a real witch. A real pagan olden timey witch.They would congregate at night and do spells and do readings with tarot cards and put curses on people. She casually named demons like Savaot , Yaldabaot making choices for her and giving instructions.
She would go in the street , draw a line in the dust , and the first guy who would cross that line would suffer some bad thing like getting beat up at the saloon, or his horse would throw him from the saddle or getting sick.
Another thing , all my family was rich while she was alive. The second she died all those businesses dried up instantly.

Soviet officials being complete fucking retards with Chernobyl and ruining the perception of nuclear energy forever. It’s literally clean and efficient power, but that once incident makes normies think every nuclear reactor is a ticking time bomb.

ll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of Edgar as an atheling just fuckin' plummeted. To be outmaneuvered by the grandson of a lowly thegn? It's a fuckin' disgrace!

>ireland, 1601
>an Irish alliance of Gaelic lords, aided by Spain, have been at war with England since 1593
>outraged with their confiscation of lands and imposition of foreign faith+law, they seek not only to end the early stages of colonisation but also to realise the thus-far lofty ambitions of a new early modern Irish nation
>lead by Hugh O'Neill, an incredibly talented commander and politican, who has the respect (reluctant or otherwise) of much of the English Court
>they have reformed Gaelic armies to combine modern weaponry and tactics with traditional Gaelic alternatives, and have defeated England in pitched battles multiple times
>England has been all but pushed out of Ireland
>Spain has landed troops at Kinsale in the far south-but they botched it, leaving them vulnerable
>every single soldier England has left in Ireland is sent to try and take Kinsale
>it's all or nothing; if England are defeated at Kinsale, they will have absolutely no choice but to pull out of Ireland completely
>Irish armies make the very long march south to aid the Spanish
>English siege camp is ruined with disease and attrition, and struggling to resupply
>most assume it's over

>Irish armies arrive
>England engages them
>it's anyone's game
>one small miscommunication between the two main groups (O'Neill's and O'Donnell's) delays a planned withdraw to lure the English into rough terrain
>a small group of English cavalry discover a small crossing over a bog, completely by accident
>they cross
>they cause panic in O'Neill's ranks
>English cavalry arrives, causing further panic
>O'Neill's men break under the pressure at last
>battle falls apart
>English victory

It is not an exaggeration that the entire course of Irish history was completely changed on that day. Everyone present was completely flabberghasted by what had happened. England was on the brink of ruin in Ireland-but it was fumbled at the very last second.

>>17814860
even if everything went right, spain didn't fumble, irish didn't fumble and every non gael on the island was slaughtered england could easily just reconquer the island with reinforcements.

>>17813073
>damn if only we could win one battle, that would make people support the retarded batista regime

>>17814675
Your great grandfather must have had a bomb ass dick

>>17814675
>southern Romanian ( not a gypsy)

>>17814904
That's the case for some other rebellions that have done quite "well", but you'd be hard pressed to find a historian to agree in this case.

This was during the Anglo-Spanish War, and of the nobles in Ireland had political, familial, or religious ties to the continent (not just in Spain) which only strengthened in the years to come (even in actual history with the defeat, this was the case). Ireland would no longer be a patchwork of disunited Kingdoms with no unifying force nor real means to stand up to England, but a new very important ally of Spain with a capable army and control of the key ports that England would need to stage a "re-conquest."

Sure, maybe sometime in the future. But equally, maybe not. It's strikingly similar to what happened with the French in the 19th Century-only in that case it was bad weather, not the Royal Navy, that ruined the plan.

People really don't know just how close everything came to ruination and how Elizabeth was so utterly exasperated with the constant defeats they'd had since the 1590s. Again-O'Neill was well known and liked in the English courts-this wasn't some grubby rebellion by disgruntled Gaels, but a full blown war that England very nearly lost.