>NoOoO!!!!!!!!!!! Ancient Athens was a democracy that thrived and became a superpower due to its fair system!!!!!!!!!!

>The more than 40% of the population that couldnt vote along with their slaves, city states puppet that were part of the Athenian NATO and were paying Athens millions to "protect them": (≖_≖ ) ( ﾉ ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ

>The fact that it's golden happened when one dude was ruling the city for years without any opposition and that after him the city was defeated by a monarchical city state: ( ﾉ ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ
>The fact that a state with a strong monarch and ruler united Hellas and created one of the biggest empires of the ancient world: ( ﾉ ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ

average athenian male

>>17819070 (OP)
>>The fact that it's golden happened when one dude was ruling the city for years without any opposition and that after him the city was defeated by a monarchical city state: ( ﾉ ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ
Athens rose to a status of hegemony over Greece before Pericles was ever born, nor did he rule without opposition, he was nearly exiled multiple times especially as the Peloponnesian war started.

The best thing about golden age Athens is its literature anyway. I think The Eumenides and Oedipus Rex are amazing plays, and are especially fascinating when you consider the exact context in which they were written and performed.

Oedipus Rex's slow inexorable tightening of the noose around the characters until it reaches the ultimate doomed conclusion is upsetting and powerful, especially when you realize this is a play that was first put on amid the devastation of the plague of athens, which saw the death of Pericles and 1/3 of their soldiers after they had followed the self defeating and cowardly defensive mindset.

>>17819070 (OP)
Both it and the State which conquered it during the Golden age (Sparta) were some of the only states in Greece to blanket ban gay stuff with little boys. Greek history can generally be surmised on a scale with faggot being on one end and civilization on the other, the more anti faggot a state is the better their civilizational prospects.

>democracy
>Athens
>A thing
nordics founded Athens

>>17820680
>A thing
>A thang
>A kang

>>17819070 (OP)
Degenerate pirate nation

>>17820668
>to blanket ban gay stuff with little boys
No source for thus

>>17821399
Sparta has it banned as according to Xenophon and Athens has the Solonian laws in addition to the later prosecutions and legal cases brought against those who would defile young boys. Also pretty much every major Athenian philosopher has an explicit condemnation of it in their works.

>>17820680
SAARS!

>>17821448
Solon gave it a special status according to Aeschines and Plutarch

>>17819070 (OP)
>The fact that a state with a strong monarch and ruler united Hellas and created one of the biggest empires of the ancient world:
Everything is correct only
This began the decline of the ancient Greek city-states and, in addition to the actual military ruin, there followed an outflow of the active population: the strong joined the mercenary armies, the intelligent went to Alexandria, Antioch, Seleucia, then Rome, to teach and study. Heretia itself fell into a long decline.
Athenian democracy was unfair, but in 50 years such a reserve of culture was created there (largely due to arrivals from other cities) that it was enough for a thousand years.

>>17819070 (OP) Athens commited suicide when it killed Socrates.

>>17819070 (OP)
>>NoOoO!!!!!!!!!!! Ancient Athens was a democracy that thrived and became a superpower due to its fair system!!!!!!!!!!
Athens is based because it had a based version of democracy and totally filtered women out of relevance + naval base for adventurers

>>17819070 (OP)
Their tenacity was impressive. They managed to bounce back from almost everything. The Persians sacked Athens and they came back and made it better. The Spartans beat them and they were relevant again within 50 years. Macedon conquered them and they managed to remain a thorn in their side.
>>17821396
That was Rhodes.

>>17819070 (OP)
Egalitarian “democracy” supporters view that only having upper and upper middle class having the right to vote as some great tragedy despite the fact this was one of the few facets of this ancient system that allowed it to survive for as long as it could. Imagine how unstable things would be if you had illiterate farmers with the verbal articulation skills of plywood attempting to vote on legislation meant to organize hundreds of thousands of people.