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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:47:18 PM No.17821993
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Are there any modern day zionist intellectuals? Every credible person I know of either sympathizes with Palestinians or is outright anti-Israel
I'm fairly certain that Ben Shapiro is unironically the most influential zionist right now
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:22:12 PM No.17822058
>Are there any modern day zionist intellectuals?
No. You cannot support a movement as stupid as Zionism and call yourself a serious intellectual. There is no direct genetic link between contemporary Jewish populations and the ancient Jews of the Bible. They speak a made up language and changed their last names to sound more ''native''. The entire thing is a huge larp.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:27:32 PM No.17822072
No. The region belongs to the Greeks, not some nonwhite jews or moslems
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:15:29 PM No.17822470
David Deutsch, for one
But politics isn't his area of expertise, he's just a Jewish supremacist. Intellectuals who develop Zionist ideology are demagogue sophists. They don't believe in God or human rights, but they will invoke either for the cause of Israel - which for the Jewish intellectual is building and securing a state for themself and their tribe, and as much as possible paying for it with worthless currency -(goy blood and surplus value)
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:37:53 PM No.17822533
>>17822058
Which group has a greater tendency to LARP: Neo-nazis or zionists?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:34:48 PM No.17823309
>>17822470
>born in israel
i think i'd go as far as to say that makes him not count. zionism is instinctive for israelis, for them its not an ideology fueled by logic or reasoning, but to preserve what they've taken
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:10:19 AM No.17823405
>>17822533
Neo-Nazis are fringe movements, Zionists make up a whole country and have bought out the world's most powerful country, zionists are by far more insane since they got everybody to go along with their LARPy bs.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:17:48 AM No.17823428
I have nothing to contribute but it's a genuinely interesting idea. What would they say if they existed? Esoteric hitlerism more or less?
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:26:45 AM No.17823447
>>17822533
Neo-nazis at the very least actually belong on the land they want to defend
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:08:59 AM No.17823596
>>17822058
Modern Jews are half-MENA in origin and I always assume that is the link to classical Hebrews
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:09:56 AM No.17823599
>>17823447
Most neo-nazis are brown skinned thirdies
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Chud Anon
7/8/2025, 1:11:17 AM No.17823602
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>>17823599
Wow, they sound like an inclusive bunch. Good for them.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:41:39 AM No.17823874
Most non-grifter intellectuals, even the non-jewish, are Zionists tho
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:49:02 AM No.17824018
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>>17821993 (OP)
A ton. They are accross a political, religious spectrum but tend to pretty academic. Shapiro is not a traditional at all. Yoram Hazony is the closest to a national conserative Zionist accout.Michael Walzer, Moshe Halbertal and Ruth Gavison are examples of liberal as in liberal demoractic state Zionists. Walzer is notable for being a prominent ethicist.David Novak is an example of a religious Zionist. There are also Pan-Arabist Zionists, Most Pan-Arabists especially of the non-religious variety have opposed Zionism but there have been a few who endorsed both positions. Emir Faisal ibn Hussein is an example such a thinker. Mudar Zahran is an example of contemporary figure arguing for a stronger account where Jordan should be the home of Palestinans while endorsign Zionism,Lucy Aharish and Yoseph Haddad are examples of more popular accessible examples.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:01:06 AM No.17824050
>>17824018
chatgpt gets dumber every day
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:04:33 AM No.17824063
>>17824018
Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for matzo balls with extra gentile blood
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:35:42 AM No.17824153
Here is a good panel showcasing some of the accounts of Zionism. It has Michael Walzer,
David Luban and Chaim Gans discussing various arguments for and aganist zionism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASxM7ZqnQo
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:56:27 AM No.17824200
This hardcore Zionist guy redpilled me hard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH3-h44VRrQ
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:56:48 AM No.17824201
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>zionist
>intellectual

their entire worldview is just unhinged narcissism taken to its human limit
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:14:16 AM No.17824244
>>17824153
>Obama mentioned
that professor is probably dead now
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:56:34 AM No.17824741
>>17824200
>the belief that your ancestors came from this land is more important than if they actually came from this land
>the people we've been occupying, stealing from, and bombing for decades are savages for not wanting peace with us
>i graduated from tel aviv university btw