So God gives you "rewards" in heaven? Like what kind? If I'm a really good goy Christian I get a mansion and swimming pool on a cloud surrounded by hot naked angel chicks? But if I'm a not so great Cultural-Christian I just get an empty white room to spend eternity in, but at least it's better than burning in Hell?

>>17825270 (OP)
You're starting to uncover the actual mechanics at work in early Christian spirituality. Yes, Jesus has a whole other place up in the sky where, if you obey Yahweh, you get rewards which are somehow precisely calculated and based on your deeds.
>In my father's house are many rooms. If it were not so would I have told you that I am traveling there to prepare a spot for you?
>Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.
>If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
>For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
>Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
>You suffered along with those who were thrown into jail, and when all you owned was taken from you, you accepted it with joy. You knew there were better things waiting for you that will last forever.
>Give, and you will receive. Your gift will return to you in full—pressed down, shaken together to make room for more, running over, and poured into your lap. The amount you give will determine the amount you get back.
>Think about the things of heaven, not the things of earth.
>Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds.
>All athletes are disciplined in their training. They do it to win a prize that will fade away, but we do it for an eternal prize.
>Be happy about it! Be very glad! For a great reward awaits you in heaven. And remember, the ancient prophets were persecuted in the same way.

>what? If I pospone reward we can have greater things? That's awesome! I wonder what's the best way to optimize this for people to pospone their rewards... Hmmm...

>>17825305
you ever wonder if he was making it up on the spot?
>oh yeah um if you dont worship me then youll go to a place of burning fire and its really awful
cue centuries of theological commentary on hell

>>17825305
> Yes, Jesus has a whole other place up in the sky where, if you obey Yahweh, you get rewards which are somehow precisely calculated and based on your deeds.
The historical Jesus taught of an earthly kingdom.

>>17825363
worse. hell is not called hell in the bible, it's called gehenna.
>That's a myth. Gehenna is the Valley of the Lamentation, or Gehinnom, which is attested to in the Bible. It's a place just outside of Jerusalem where ancient Jews used to offer ritual human sacrifices. They would throw animals and humans alive into fires. It was only a scandal when they threw infants in there too.
>"For they ( = the Jews) do not eat the sacrificed [animals], but burn them completely at night and by pouring on them much honey and wine they waste away the sacrifice more quickly, lest the all-seeing [sun] becomes a spectator of the terrible [deed]."
>"For these ( = the Jews) were the first to sacrifice both of other animals and of themselves (i.e., also human sacrifices), having done this out of necessity and not from desire."
>"And they built the high places of Baal, which are in Gehinnom, to set apart their sons and their daughters unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into My mind, that they should do this abomination; to cause Judah to sin."
>And he defiled Topheth, which is in Gehinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech.
>"You shall not hold back the offering from your entire harvest and your wine. The firstborn of your sons you shall give to Me. You shall do the same with your oxen and with your sheep. It shall be with its mother for seven days; on the eighth day you shall give it to Me."
>"Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the Lord."

>Certain persons [...] are of opinion that the fulfilment of the promises of the future are to be looked for in bodily pleasure and luxury; and therefore they especially desire to have again, after the resurrection, such bodily structures as may never be without the power of eating, and drinking, and performing all the functions of flesh and blood
>And consequently they say, that after the resurrection there will be marriages, and the begetting of children, imagining to themselves that the earthly city of Jerusalem is to be rebuilt, its foundations laid in precious stones, and its walls constructed of jasper, and its battlements of crystal; that it is to have a wall composed of many precious stones, as jasper, and sapphire, and chalcedony, and emerald, and sardonyx, and onyx, and chrysolite, and chrysoprase, and jacinth, and amethyst. Moreover, they think that the natives of other countries are to be given them as the ministers of their pleasures, whom they are to employ either as tillers of the field or builders of walls, and by whom their ruined and fallen city is again to be raised up; and they think that they are to receive the wealth of the nations to live on, and that they will have control over their riches; that even the camels of Midian and Kedar will come, and bring to them gold, and incense, and precious stones
Origen's On the First Principles II, 11, 2
Gregory of Nyssa also wrote against "To those who say that the enjoyment of the good things we look for will again consist in meat and drink, because it is written that by these means man at first lived in Paradise".
This doctrine has a peculiar status within Christianity similar to that of guardian angels - children are taught it to help them develop Christian intuitions (to see heaven as obviously good and desirable) but once they're properly inducted they receive some hoary doctrine about how heaven is actually good in a very abstract way with no fun allowed lol

>>17825270 (OP)
Heaven is the kingdom his people maintain on earth (Luke 17:21). And he was white, you slimy jew heritic.

>>17825528
This schizophrenic wignat boomer is still here kek

>>17825697
You're supposed to be in exile, wandering the desert waiting for a messiah, not shitposting from telaviv, Moshi.

>>17825755
You're supposed to be looking for a job instead of begging for donations on Christogenea, stormtranny.

>>17825270 (OP)
Your speculation is ultimately pointless because you'll be Enjoying Hell anyway!

Enjoy Hell

>>17825762
>implying I am your boogie man
Keep guessing, you'll never get it.

>>17825270 (OP)
There's rivers of honey and wine in heaven.

>>17825363
I did, but this idea takes a lot of faith to maintain seeing that it checks out not only with prior and subsequent mystical experience, it checks out with half of the world's mystical experience regardless of faith.

>>17825270 (OP) So, some atheist told you what God do or do not and you simply believed him? Not very bright, I have to say.