Thread 17826367

Which war is most kino? I think WW1 is cool but I don't know many wars.

>>17826367 (OP)
WWI is the golden age kino of wars. It's black and white, (not crayon colorized btw) tightly written and creative in its brutality, with early forms of the mass hero worship that would come later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M9g2Y9HonQ&list=PLU3D-AJtpvisC6_hPd-fC0EMgBPbgjaMC

WWII is the "peak of cinema" war, there's really nothing to be said except that this war was thoroughly kino in its design and implementation from beginning to end. The most filmified war ever.

But for me, the essence of kino is not the most heroic nor the most grandly filmed war. At the height of television came the Yugoslav wars, mass nationalistic struggle born and bred on CRT. The characters and the landscape of these wars is what I consider kino in its raw wild form, lying around to be picked up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVUg-VoPAeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2La-nnY6SI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfUCdsLgr4Y

>>17826367 (OP)
Normie answer but the WW2 Eastern Front. It was like a clash of civilizations.

>>17826367 (OP)
WW2 Eastern Front is the peak of war

chimp out like it's 1999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=333OVHhpK5c

>>17826424
Alexander Nevzorov films from the 90s are peak neo-reactionary kino. He was a Russian imperial revanchist from the time (also became disillusioned, turned against Russia after the invasion of Ukraine and now lives in exile, predicted it would be a big disaster). Check out the intro to this:
https://youtu.be/5-3BlREzx80

Also his film about the Riga OMON trying to hold under siege from Latvian nationalists, practically an art film:
https://youtu.be/SFo-hbTGbPY

>>17826367 (OP)
American Civil War and it’s not even close

>>17826490
he's dressed like Hillary but the videos are giga kino

>>17826367 (OP)
The Napoleonic Wars read like movie scenes over and over again. The entire era is exploding with heroics, gallantry, and pure kino. And it has aspects familiar to modernity but without the mechanized meat grinding you get in more modern conflicts like WW1 and ww2. It’s just pure cinema all around, like all of history converged on one point to create the most movie-like of conflicts ever.

>>17826548
Probably this. What's the moment when the Polish Hussars want to prove themselves so they lunge straight into a river to cross in front of Napoleon and nearly all drown?

>>17826393
This, but the Pacific Theater instead.

>>17826565
Nazi Germany vs the USSR was more of a peer on peer conflict than the U.S. vs Japan in my opinion. Japan was hopelessly outmatched.

>>17826565
Nope. Pacific theatre only flared up during planned offensives, outside of those they sat around for months at a time.

>>17826567
Japan was hopelessly mismatched but their garrisons were cut off before being attacked, compounding the imbalance of forces in those battles. The only real exception being Burma but we don't talk about that because Hollywood has no reason to.

>>17826367 (OP)
Thirty Years War

>>17826367 (OP)
2nd Punic war
Watching Rome clawing it's way to victory from defeats any other state would have thrown in the towel and call quits in a multi front war is so enjoyable to read/watch

>>17826697
I second this.
Thirty Year War took everything to a whole new level and changed Europe forever.

>>17826393
WW2 is normie, but I don't think Eastern Front is, at least if you're from the Western world. Lots of people only know about Stalingrad through of Enemy at the Gates and Kursk (if they've heard of it) because of a tank game.
Normiecore would be D-Day/Overlord

Ottoman wars against Austro-Hungarian empires are absolute cinema

>>17826393
Eastern Front is kind of boring because nothing went wrong for the Russians after late 1942.
Kharkov 3 and Narva barely made any difference.
A war is kino when there are constant upsets, in this sense Rommel's Desert War is a bit more intriguing

>>17826833
>A war is kino when there are constant upsets

That's why the thirty year war is so kino.
It swung up and down constantly.
After White Mountain battle everyone thought the protestants would be exterminated like the hussites before them (and Europe would revert back to absolute catholic), then suddenly Denmark and Sweden joins and the balance shifts after Breitenfeldt battle, then Spain joins and Protestants have a crushing defeat at Nördlingen battle, then France joins and the balance shifts, then it's just an endless up-and-down which just ends up with central Europe being absolutely scorched and 1/3 of the German population is slaughtered.
Ultimately both sides kinda forgets why they are fighting because everyone who started the war are dead.
Peace is signed when Protestant forces are outside the Prague castle, the exact location where the war started. Pure poetry.

Also in the middle of this war the Dutch said fuck it and rebelled for their independence against the catholic Habsburg hegemony, and the first thing they did was conquring England.

>>17826696
I think he meant they weren't just hopelessly outmatched by zooming in on particular battles, but wholistically as a war between two civilisations overall, Japan vs USA was a mismatch from the start. Whereas Germany vs USSR was the main aspect to WW2.

>>17826567
>>17826692
The Pacific Theatre was literally the largest naval war in history and no it wasn’t always one sided like plebs on here like to make it out to be. If you don’t believe me then go and actually look up all the naval battles which took place during the Guadalcanal campaign. The IJN still gave the US Navy a good run for their money even after the Battle of Midway.
>>17826696
>The only real exception being Burma but we don't talk about that because Hollywood
>t. butthurt bong
No the main reason why the Burma campaign is somewhat forgotten is because it was simply just the IJA’s side show to the main event. The main event being Operation Ichi-Go (Japan’s largest land invasion in their history) which took place further north in China and managed to roll up multiple Nationalists Chinese divisions.

>>17826920
Nigga

Germany vs USSR was a war between peers,

Japan vs USA was a doomed homosexual rape mismatch from the start.

Japan fought valiantly but come on. Who the fuck do you think you are coming in and samefagging the same vapid nothingness.

Also, Russia did most of the hard work against the Nazis.

And, the Japanese surrendered because of Operation August Storm. The Soviets crushed Japan's Kwantung Army in a matter of days, completely overwhelming them with millions of troops.

>>17826367 (OP)
Napoleonic uniforms were gorgeous

>>17826939
The soviets didn't matter to japan's defeat as all the resources/troops in manchuria were irrelevant as they couldn't get passed the american naval blockade

>>17826939
It didn't matter what the hell the Russians did on the ground, Japan surrendered because they were hoping for Stalin to intermediate a conditional peace treaty, but Russia declaring war on them shattered those hopes.
Russia wasn't threatening jack against Honshu, unlike the Americans. It's debatable whether they even had the logistics to invade Hokaido. The pressure that forced Hirohito's intercession was the direct threat against the Japanese ruling class/war council, from the American bombs or the American invasion. The dicks at the top, for all their bushido BS, really only cared about themselves. The mainland army was immaterial to their immediate survival.

Napoleonic wars for peak pomp and grandeur

World war 2 for peak sheer cataclysm

>>17826367 (OP)
Balkan wars plus ww1, if you consider slapstick comedy to be kino

My favourite wars are the Napoleonic Wars, WW2 and the HYW
Those are the ones I've read the most about
t. francophile

>>17826367 (OP)
How is that kino? Are you a psychopath?

>>17826367 (OP)
In general sea wars are always more kino and scenic than land wars.
The dynamic sea, the colors, the steel/bronze... bonus points if the climate is warm and it's under the daylight sun. It looks otherwordly.
Roman-Punic wars must've been kino to witness. Ancient mediterranean warfare in general.
As well as the pacific theater in ww2. This is my answer

>>17826939
>Germany vs USSR was a war between peers,
The Soviets never won a single tactical victory against the Germans throughout the four years they fought against one another and the Soviets always lost more men than the Germans, even when the Soviets were winning.
>Japan vs USA was a doomed homosexual rape mismatch from the start.
You literally know absolutely nothing about the Pacific Theatre. Why even talk about something you know fuck all about?
>Also, Russia did most of the hard work against the Nazis.
Your precious Russians never would’ve been able to even kick the Germans out of their country without America’s lend lease, let alone invade Germany.
>And, the Japanese surrendered because of Operation August Storm. The Soviets crushed Japan's Kwantung Army in a matter of days, completely overwhelming them with millions of troops.
*breathes in*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Russoids taking out a bunch of conscripts is not the reason why Japan surrendered. By that point the Japanese had already lost the war to the US Navy.
…
Hey Ivan, I knew your education system was fucked, but I didn’t realise it was this bad. Is the Soviet invasion of Manchuria the only thing they teach you retards when it comes to the war against Japan?
The absolute state of you vatniks.

>>17826367 (OP)
>Which war is most kino?
Iran-Iraq War, WW1 with modern technology with lots cool battles like Khorramshahr and engagements like the first every helicopter vs jet dogfight

>>17827437
>Iran-Iraq War
based

>>17827437
>>17827455
In 2010, Konami should retooled six days in Fallujah into eight years in Mesopotamia games

>>17826537
ACW combines Napoleonic kino with gray WWI trench sludge, set in malarial swamps, dense forests, rolling hills and twisting brown rivers and bayous. Primitive railroads and steampunk ironclads. Zouaves and a host of other cool uniforms. Chaotic battles with little chain of command, just a bunch of rednecks, freed slaves, ghetto Irish and midwestern farm chads going buckwild.

>>17827592
Also the first high magazine rapid fire guns.

>>17827455
>>17827437
This
Iran-Iraq is the most underrated war of the 20th century