Everyone knows about Mongol Empire and glory and pussy its warriors achieved in conquered countries

Turn around to 1900 and its ogre

>Mongolia is colonial dependency of Qing Empire with its administration depending on whims of Manchu noblemen

>Its people are bought up and indebted by Chinese merchants who take their land for debts and sell it to their own countrymen

>Most of these people are serfs of noblemen who spent their life on drinking and gambling which help Chinese and Manchus to strenghten their goals, there is no revolt against such state of things

>its people got completely spiritually cucked by Tibetans, they consist higher clergy and bust in the ass little incel sons Mongol families gave in like its perfectly normal everyday occurrence

genocidal warrior to cucked basedboy does history even know more such examples

>>17826758 (OP)
Baron Ungern von Sternberg gave them their masculinity back.

>>17826758 (OP)
Most Mongols had been absorbed by Han blob by that point, and honorable Manchu warriors had been absorbed by same process in Qing empire
Mongolian/Tibetan buddhism was based af

>>17826758 (OP)
Changs had to nerf Mongols so they would stop getting raped by then everyday

>>17826758 (OP)
>genocidal warrior to cucked basedboy does history even know more such examples
Germans

>>17827414
>germsissies
>warriors

>>17827423
They were warriors. They got their shit kicked because they're crayon munching goons but they were warriors, at the very least they were in the first world war.

>>17827414
Assyrians, Romans.

>>17827411
It started earlier when Khalkha so modern Mongols had to call Manchus to stop Dzungars from conquering them
>>17827414
Germans weren't particularly militant until late 18th century they were more like peasants and mercenaries to their rapey neighbours

>>17826758 (OP)
What went right? They were a bunch of nomads who (if united) could invade and demand tribute from their sedentary neighbors. They leadership eventually fractured and their neighbors eventually got wise on how to fight them and it was all over from there. Their led a primitive lifestyle in a modernizing world.

>>17826758 (OP)
They were already ass blasted starting from Kublai's reign. He showed some competence during the Tolouid war but showed crippling logistic issues in almost all of the campaigns thereafter. Java, Japan, Burma, Champa and Vietnam had little to zero gain. China and Korea was already strangled half to death for decades by the great Monkey so im not sure it displays any part the valour of Kublai. Lets not speak of what humiliation they received during the fall of the yoke.

>>17826758 (OP)
Genghis was a cuck who raised his wife son

>>17829610
and yet he genocide multiple regions in Central and Eastern Asia

>>17829723
I know but what this has to do with what i said

>>17826758 (OP)
>>17827405
>>17827411

Actual ethnic Mongol historian from the royal Borjigin clan, Borjigin Burensain says Mongol princes married off Mongol women to Han Chinese men.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14414077/#q14414134

>>14414124

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13224931

>>13224931

Han Chinese bondservants and Han bannermen and Han civilians during the Qing dynasty also made up for skewed sex ratio from female infanticide by marrying ethnic Mongol women in Inner Mongolia.

Mongol royal descendant Borjigin Burensain himself admitted that Han farmers in Inner Mongolia were given Mongol wives in the qing dynasty.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13223613

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13223671

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13224931

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13225368

Han Chinese merchants and soldiers also took Uyghur wives in Xinjiang , Han soldiers in Lubu, Lhasa took Tibetan wives and Han merchants visiting Japan rented Japanese girls

>>17827405
>Most Mongols had been absorbed

Its the opposite dumb rapebaby, Han Chinese were mass migrating into Mongolia abd marrying Mongol women and their descendants became assimilated into Mongol ethnicity

Read the links at >>17829736

>>17827411
Han Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia multiple times before Genghis Khan.

Qin dynasty general Meng Tian ethnically cleansed Xiongnu from Ordos loop in Inner Mongolia.

Han dynasty ethnically cleansed the Northern Xiongnu in Outer Mongolia.

Tang dynasty raped and conquered the Eastern Turkic Khaganate, Xueyantuo and Uyghur Khaganates in Outer Mongolia.

Tang dynasty directly ruled Outer Mongolia as Protectorate General to Pacify the West.

>>17827405
>>17829736
>>17829741
Manchu and Mongol are both seperate ethnicities from Han to this day.

>>17829742
Vast amount of Manchu/Mongols settled in China and got Han-nified

>>17830326
Wrong retard.

The actual Manchu population is far SMALLER than 10 million, the reason "Manchus" are 10 million now is because Han bannermen (Hanjun baqi or ujen coohai) and Han bondservants (baoyi or booi aha) and state bondservants (sinjeku) along with Mongol bannermen get to classifiy themselves as Manchu.

It's the exact opposite of what the dumbass claimed-there are actually millions of Han under the Manchu clasification, not Manchu under the Han classification.

It has nothing to do with who retained Manchu surnames. Plenty of Manchu people who adopted Han surnames like Jin (Aisin Gioro), Wang, Zhao (Irgen Gioro) are under the Manchu classification now.

There were only 5 million Eight Bannermen when the Qing dynasty ended and only a fraction of them were Manchu.

The Eight banners lived in the walled off Inner city of Beijing and in the walled off banner quarters of other cities.

The average Manchu bannerman, if he was in contact with Han, only interacted with Han bannermen and Han bomdservants and was extremely alienated and disconnected from non-Banner Han civilians, hence why Manchus were only able to speak Beijing Mamdarin and completely unable to comprehend the local speech of Ham civilians around their quarters like Xi'an Mandarin, Cantonese, Sichuan Mandarin or Mindong.

That's why Han people were able to slaughter Manchis with a shibboleth test during the Xinhai revolution in Wuhan and other places asking them to pronounce numbers like six six six since they inoy knew Beijing Mandarin. Manchu women also didn't bind their feet at all and wore the liangbatou headress and different clothes from Han women.

>>17830326
Wrong.

Mongols sold their own children incliding daughters as slaves to Han Chinese during the Yuan dynasty

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13220278

>>13220278

Kublai Khan had to hand out Korean women as wives to the Southern Song soldiers in Xiangyang (now turned into the Xinfu jun,newly submitted army) after they demanded Kublai provide them with women, after defecting.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17388491/#q17388491

>>17388491

>>17830326
The majority of Mongols never settled in Han provinces.

Most Mongols stayed in Mongolia

Kublai Khan moved tons of Han farmers to Outer Mongolia and Han craftsmen to Ourer Mongolia cities and they married Mongol women and assimilated into the Mongol population.

Han farmers and craftsmen continued moving into Mongolia during the Ming and Qing dynasties and were given Mongol wives by the Mongol princes and continued assimilating.

https://buddhism.lib.ntu.edu.tw/DLMBS/en/search/search_detail.jsp%3Fseq%3D670290%26comefrom%3Dfulltextthesis

https://search.proquest.com/openview/5c6d78516e80433b02e24bbac4409096/1%3Fpq-origsite%3Dgscholar%26cbl%3D18750

https://schina-publication.hkust.edu.hk/en/node/2680

https://dissertation.com/abstract/2210678

https://www.proquest.com/dissertations-theses/mongolization-han-chinese-manchu-settlers-qing/docview/1926754490/se-2

https://ccu-tw.academia.edu/WeichiehTsai

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