Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death? It's kind of depressing if you think about it. It's akin to USA and Canada killing each other.

>>17829792 (OP)
I think Putin believes he's in a Paradox-developed video game and wants to get an achievement for uniting the Rus militarily.

>>17829792 (OP)
Because Ukies are butthurt about... something idk I guess Russians oppressed them or something. They are cool with crimean tatars and turds though, those never wronged them in history.

>>17829792 (OP)
With a few tweaks this could break every single rule

>randomly
They got invaded by Russia. It's entirely Russia's fault. Ukrainians are merely defending themselves.

>>17829792 (OP)
Russians still want to larp as an imperial power and are learning the hard way that they aren’t like the soviets fighting heckin nazis

>>17829792 (OP)
Russia had it out for Ukrainians since before Ukraine even existed. In the 17th century Tsar Alexei tightened the ropes around today's left-bank Ukraine, suppressing uprisings. In the 18th century Peter I and Catherine II did pretty much the same, gradually destroying the concept of locally governing hetmanates and dissolving cossack strongholds so the lands can be ruled centrally from Russia...

The current conflict is the same in nature - Moscowites trying to control Ukraine because hell why not? But depending on who you ask you get a different timeline.
Certified retard timeline:
> USA financed Maidan, Russia felt bad for this undemocratic revolution and started shelling grandmas (wouldn't you??? duh, poke a bear with NATO and he responds)
A more sober timeline:
>2003 Russia suspected in voter fraud in favour of Yanukovich
>2013 Yanukovich refuses to sign pro-EU agreement despite his promises and the people's hype
>Maidan happens
>Anti-maidan happens and only a few elderly people show up to get free chicken
>Yanukovich flees to Russian and Putin is concerned that he's losing influence in the region
>Crimea illegally annexed by Russia
>Donetsk and Luhanks separatists financed by Russia
>Separatists start actual terrorism and are violently suppressed by Ukraine; Russia interprets this as war on "ethnic Russians" and spreads fake news (and a couple unidentifiable and unclear videos) about nazis
>Russia keeps yapping about peace while amassing tanks at the Ukrainian border
>Russia invades
>Russia conveniently forgets the "ethnic Russians" bs and starts shelling Ukrainian speakers and Russian speakers indiscriminately

I left out the NATO problem because it really is just a manifestation of the larger issue - Russia losing influence and coping with it by bombing people. Russia isn't in principle opposed to NATO, since in 2000-2001 there were discussions about Russia joining and boards for cooperation.

>>17829836
Why do Russians call Ukrainians Nazis?

>>17829792 (OP)
Mongolia only knows how to steal, pillage and ransom, they are unable to produce so they always have to expand to not collapse.
They are basically a cancer made a country

cont >>17829836

I also left out most of the "Nazi Jews!" mythology that Russia used to promote, but recently seems to have given up on it.

It is true that in the 20th century Ukraine's key controversial nationalist Stepan Bandera was continuously switching sides between USSR and the Reich. This was a strategic move on his part to keep both just far enough away from Ukraine. Many Ukrainians still consider him a hero for this effort despite the fact that his organization (often in his absence) commited terrible massacres.
Russia sees this as Ukraine simply siding with Nazis. So what they did was find a batallion (that wasn't even originally governmental) where there were like 15 retards wearing swastikas, prop it up as typical Ukrainian soldiers and then tie every mention of Bandera to these retards, known as the Azov batallion. Every time a Russian-speaking Ukrainian's hamster died it was somehow the fault of Azov batallion. Every time a kindergarten was shelled by Russians, it was because someone from Azov was totally there.

I'm seeing much less of this now, and I think it's because the whole "we're here to save ethnic Russians from nazi genocide" sort of fell flat on its face in the target regions. Kharkiv, which Russia previously claimed is full of "ethnic Russians", is now being shelled by Russian missiles hard and often.

>>17829837
Great question, I continued this in >>17829842. It's a mixture of historical revisionism and a need to appear as heroes. It also paths a way back to USSR, whose claim to fame was defeating the Nazis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSW4p_bHDb4
pretty much this