For several months now I have been in the process of converting to Orthodox Judaism. I began my journey as a Biblical Unitarian, but I was raised Catholic. Ask me anything.

Why?

Forgive me if this is a retarded question, but what are your primary religious texts? Is it mostly just the Tanakh?

>>17830877
On an intellectual level once I seriously considered it I couldn’t square the messianism of Jesus with the unfulfilled prophecies. Which includes prophecies made during the New Testament. I also found out that many things I already privately believed about Biblical interpretation and theology were actually already established Halakhic laws and Kabbalist interpretations. But more importantly than that as I encountered more of the Jewish community I found they were very different to my expectations. I found usually my cultural and social instincts would align with theirs, and that their way of life better resembles what I would want for myself and for my descendants. I also felt like Hashem had been giving me signs pointing in this direction, the final one that made me decide to just go for it being when I found out I actually have a mild case of phimosis that I always just thought was normal and would in fact benefit from circumcision. So beyond an intellectual interest those are reasons why I decided to formally join the chosen people rather than just privately being a Noahide.
>>17830879
The Tanakh is the main one. That’s basically the Old Testament. And within the Tanakh the Torah is the most important by far, that’s the first five Books of Moses. Outside the Tanakh you have the Mishnah, thé Midrash and the Talmud - all of which are basically compilations of oral discussions and rulings on the finer points of the law. Then you also have Kabbalah, which is about esoteric Biblical analysis that covers a wide range of theological, mystical and philosophical topics.

Accept Christ.

>>17830939
Why?

>>17830937
What makes you think that there is any truth in Judaism at all? How do you reconcile with the fact that there is zero evidence for the Exodus, the Flood, Adam and Eve, Abraham, Moses, all the way up to maybe David there is no evidence of any of them existing, the archaeological record contradicts what it says in the Bible, there is no evidence for Joshua or his conquest of Canaan, in fact the evidence points to Israel desceding from Canaanites and Yahweh just being one among the many gods of the Canaanite pantheon.

>>17830954

He died for your sins.

>>17830871 (OP)
>ama
Are you looking forward to spending eternity writhing around in the agony of Hellfire?

>>17830959

Based.

>>17830871 (OP)
are you gonna move to boro park

>>17830937
Ngl, I would probably do the same if I thought I was receiving signs from the Lord.
>I couldn’t square the messianism of Jesus with the unfulfilled prophecies
Are you going to keep an open mind about Jesus being the messiah seeing that prophecies and their fulfillment in Judaism are treated in extremely diverse ways?

Also another question, >>17830871 (OP), what makes you believe the particular branch of Judaism that you're joining is "the" one? I know this is rich coming from a Christian, but I was just interested if there was something more behind the selection than their alignment with your pre-existing tendencies.

>>17830871 (OP)
Given the many cases of anti-Semitism we've seen recently, in addition to the religious persecution that has occurred throughout history, how do you deal with the thought that you might suffer persecution because of your religion?
(PS: I am of Sephardic descent and just for that reason I have felt that there have been times when I am afraid that some people know this, taking into account the persecutions. I also clarify that I am of other Semitic ethnicities such as Lebanese Arabs.)

>>17830871 (OP)
Maybe you should watch this before you convert, it definitely stopped me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtscaEtnUUE

>>17830937
Well I can relate with the instinct to go Orthodox (except for the phimosis part)
If you are a certain type of person then Christianity won't ever make any sense and what Judaism offers will look so much more rich and logical that it's the only possible option when it comes to practicing a religion. Plus you can actually read the Bible without needing to retroactively shim Jesus in at every opportunity.
However, I'm lazy. Even with learning Biblical Hebrew, while it can be fun and easy and useful, I stop wanting to do it after a pretty short time. I wouldn't make it at all trying to follow basic mitzvot or the various steps for aligning myself with a particular community.

You cant convert into orthodox judaism. Even the libshits barely accept converts.
This is common knowledge but of course /his/ falls for this shitpost.

>>17831026
that's not true, some orthodox rabbis will accept converts though they will not offer general conversion classes. You have to come to them, will be rejected as a matter of course, and they may or may not change their mind after you persist for a while and make a demonstrated showing that this is not a mere passing interest or random search for meaning.

>>17830957
>Zero evidence for…
>The exodus
Wrong
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soleb
>The flood
Wrong
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis
>Adam and Eve
This is not evangelical Christianity, Adam and Eve are poetic characterisations of man’s primordial ancestors. Adam is literally just Hebrew for “man”.
>Abraham, Moses, David
By the same logic you could rule out evidence of the existence of Alexander the Great, these kinds of arguments simply draw the epistemological bar so unreasonably high that no one in ancient history could meet it, regardless of how well visible their achievements, teachings and descendants are.
>in fact the evidence points to Israel desceding from Canaanites and Yahweh just being one among the many gods of the Canaanite pantheon.
And how, pray tell, does this contradict the Bible? The Torah itself tells us the original homeland of the Israelites was Canaan and that the idolatrous polytheistic religion of the latter years of Solomon’s reign included Hashem as part of a pantheon as per the influence of his Canaanite wife. Accepting that Hashem is lord and the ancient Israelites existed, of course their neighbours would incorporate Him into their pantheons, they saw evidence of the power of the Lord of Israel everyday
>>17830958
I’m not convinced of the Biblical credibility of original sin tbqh.
>>17830970
I wouldn’t say my mind is completely closed to the possibility, no.
>what makes you believe the particular branch of Judaism that you're joining is "the" one?
Judaism is peculiar as far as religions go because it’s more like a nation than it is like a church. All of them, providing for Halachic legitimacy, are legit Jews because it’s more a matter of matrilineal ethnicity than scriptural interpretation. The reason I decided to convert via orthodoxy, is because conversions via reform or conservative are not halachically valid.

>>17830992
I wouldn’t say I’m fearless but at the same time it doesn’t really deter because my native land is Northern Ireland and I’m already quite accustomed to navigating intense religious bigotry. In fact I’d say my specific ethno-cultural background has a lot to do with why I found myself surprisingly aligned with the Jewish community as I got to know some of them.

>>17831026
You can, they will grill the shit out of you but they make it clear that if you’re truly serious about this then you’re more than welcome.
>Even the libshits barely accept converts.
Reform and conservative conversion is a joke. It takes a couple of months and they dish them out so easily Israeli politicians are increasingly concerned about random Jeets and Flips suddenly deciding they’re very interested in the Torah when they find out about Aliyah.

>>17831048
>Soleb
Nowhere near close to where the Exodus myth is supposed to have happened, and there is no Egyptian record of anything in the Exodus.
>Sea_deluge_hypothesis
The Deluge is supposed to be worldwide.
>Adam and Eve are poetic characterisations of man’s primordial ancestors.
The first Jews didn't see it that way, they very much believed that Adam and Eve were real people.
>By the same logic you could rule out evidence of the existence of Alexander the Great
No you couldn't, there is ample evidence for Alexander the Great, on the other hand, there is exactly ZERO evidence for any and all of the Bible's characters all the way up to king David, who barely has ANYTHING resembling outside evidence.
>And how, pray tell, does this contradict the Bible?
Because according to the Bible the Israelites and the Canaanites were two different people, but this is not what we see in the historical record, we can clearly see that the Israelites descended from the Canaanites.

Btw, that is just the tip of the iceberg, there's also the Bible being heavily edited, the book of Daniel and Esther being completely fictional, Israelites copying Babylonian myths during the captivity, the documentary hypothesis, all the many internal contraditions inside the Old Testament, zero evidence for Solomon's temple, etc. etc etc.

>>17831070
>Nowhere near close to where the Exodus myth is supposed to have happened, and there is no Egyptian record of anything in the Exodus.
This is literally Egyptian written evidence of nomadic Semites called the Shashu that worshipped a God with an identical name to the Tetragrammaton that were a captive enemy people of Egypt. Evidence of the Shashu in Egyptian history is abundant, and this inscription puts it beyond all doubt that they were Israelites.
>The Deluge is supposed to be worldwide.
Many ancient Mesopotamian kings were titled “King of the World”, this was a relative term back then as people did not know about the entire globe.
>The first Jews didn't see it that way, they very much believed that Adam and Eve were real people.
The first Jews spoke Hebrew and therefore clearly understood that Adam is a representation of mankind rather than biographical journalism. Even the Kabbalah interprets Genesis 1 symbolically, so you can hardly argue this is modern post-19th century revision, this has been current since the earliest days of Rabbinic Judaism. You’re just projecting Christian theology onto a religion that never had it.
>there is ample evidence for Alexander the Great, on the other hand,
Can you show me some evidence of Alexander’s existence that does not come centuries after his death? Pro tip, you can’t because it doesn’t exist.

>>17831070
>Because according to the Bible the Israelites and the Canaanites were two different people, but this is not what we see in the historical record, we can clearly see that the Israelites descended from the Canaanites.
Quebecers descend from the French. Does this then mean Quebecers and the French are not two different peoples?
>there's also the Bible being heavily edited, the book of Daniel and Esther being completely fictional
Proof?
>Israelites copying Babylonian myths during the captivity
Other way around, the Babylonians had distorted, idolatrous versions of the factual histories preserved in the Bible.
> the documentary hypothesis
Thoroughly refuted, not even taken seriously by secular Biblical archaeologists since the 1970s.
>all the many internal contraditions inside the Old Testament
Such as?
>evidence for Solomon's temple
There has literally never been even one modern archaeological excavation of the Temple Mount and probably never will be for entirely political and religious reasons. However the structure described in the Bible is completely architecturally and functionally standard for contemporary Levantine cultures. It’d be more unbelievable that such a temple to Hashem in Jerusalem in this time frame didn’t exist.

>>17831133
>>17831137
Holy shit, you claim to be a Jewish convert but then become more schizo than the most fundamentalist Christian.

Is your desire to worship the Jew god that potent ,anon?

All of these points are what made me give up on Christianity as a whole. Maybe you should just look up all the atheist YouTube channels who have beaten the Bible to death.

>>17831144
You realise Jews typically do believe in the Bible, yes? If presenting archaeological facts and correcting Biblical misunderstandings is schizo that word is clearly in your head just synonymous for “not atheist”. This is actually very typical of secular modernists, they pathologise any deviation from their worldview, without irony given how crazy the clown world that enforces such a worldview truly is.
And, no, I will not watch The Amazing Atheist or whatever. Concession accepted.

>>17831165
>You realise Jews typically do believe in the Bible, yes?
No? Most Jews worldwide are atheists.

>>17831144
That is a frequent testimony, and I absolutely understand why someone would be impressed by YouTube atheists, especially in the 2000s when the skeptic channels were cutting through creationism and prottie fundamentalism like knife through butter. But there is a reason this landscape has changed dramatically in the last 10 years, so much so that everyone from Jordan Peterson to Bret Weinstein were exposing Richard Dawkin's superficial understanding of what it is he was taking apart.

For example, you're entirely correct that if we presume the literal-metaphorical dichotomy, then we would likely place ancient Hebrews into the "literally believing in Adam and Eve" bracket. But this dichotomy is flawed to begin with. In the traditional symbolic worldview a text is not "true" because it technically conforms to a material description of events, it is true because it reveals the meaning of an event.

When you actually dive into the scholarly research (given it is proper research), you discover answers infinitely more nuanced than the skeptical approach of "Do I know for sure this text is what I would it expect it to be?". One element of such nuance is Egypt and Exodus. Although not entirely fool-proof, it is an uncontroversial theory that therm Hebrew itself comes from Egyptian term Hapiru, which denotes the lower class. This is exactly something we would expect to find if Exodus was based on real events.

I'm not saying you didn't have valid concerns about the Bible. I'm just saying that if the Amazing Atheist and the Armored Skeptic were your sources of choice, you have cheated yourself of outstanding insights into what the Bible means and says.

>>17830969
I don’t live in the USA but I do live in a historically Jewish neighbourhood of my city. There’s an Eruv, several synagogues, a kosher minimart, a kosher burger joint, everyone is modestly dressed and on Saturday afternoons it is very quiet except for kids playing outside, it’s extremely comfy and based.

You can't convert to Judaism lol. You need to be racially jewish from your mother or else you don't have the right Nepesh to be spiritual with g*d. You're just a weird judeoaboo goyim.

>>17831170
In the US only 22% of Jews are atheists, in Israel it’s 8%. Jews outside of these two countries are such a small percentage of global Jewry that these two alone account for a supermajority of any demographic considerations.

>>17831200
You literally have figures in the Tanakh that converted to Judaism and named Talmudic sages that are themselves converts or descended from converts.
In fact the Talmud specifically condemns discriminating between a convert and a born Jew.

>>17831200
The idea is that many souls are lost but are seeking to come back. If someone actually yearns to be Jewish enough to go through a difficult process then they always had a Jewish soul.
Granted, I think you will still have to contend with the significant outward spiritual differences that come from having an upbringing devoid of Jewish practice.

>>17831179
>I'm just saying that if the Amazing Atheist and the Armored Skeptic were your sources of choice, you have cheated yourself of outstanding insights into what the Bible means and says.
On the contrary, ever since abandoning religion entirely I've been able to appreciate the Bible as a piece of purely human creation, it's mythology to me just like the Odyssey and the Bhagavad Gita. I've long since stopped being an angry atheist, I've moved on and come to look at the Bible as just Israel's national literature, nothing more. My only problem is with people who actually believe the stuff in the Bible is real.

I personally recommend these channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@GnosticInformant/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@MythVisionPodcast/videos

>>17830871 (OP)
do you literally believe the creator of the universe who made all we see in under a week chose the Jewish people as his chosen?

>>17831248
Yes
If there’s any nation on Earth that is clearly of disproportionate cosmic interest it is them.

>>17831209
Just go to a synagogue in israel and find out how laughably retarded your larp is

>>17831238
Pilpul. You will never consider goyim as equal. You will exploit them as a useful idiot however.

>>17831264
Israel literally gives citizenship to converts on the same basis as it gives it to born Jews. It also denies citizenship to born Jews that convert to another religion.
But do tell me more about all these Israeli synagogues you’ve attended.

>>17831243
>>you have cheated yourself of outstanding insights into what the Bible means and says
>I've moved on and come to look at the Bible as just Israel's national literature, nothing more
But that is exactly what I am talking about. When interpreting the Odyssey your basic presuppositions about reality, truth and identity are not challenged. You would only benefit from scholarly research if you encountered an extremely early version where some animistic elements need to be bridged by a scholarly note at the end of the chapter.
In the Bible your presuppositions are challenged. As in for example truth-as-correctness vs truth-as-revealing. Scholarly research is pretty much necessary. By reading the Bible as you would the Odyssey, you are quite literally cheating yourself of most things it means and says.

It's like a poetic reading of cookbooks. You might find great joy in re-interpreting spaghetti carbonara as though it were a poem, but you're missing most of what the text is saying...

>>17831276
No it doesn't you have to prove you're racially jewish

>>17831319
Wrong
>4B. For the purposes of this Law, “Jew” means a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has become converted to Judaism and who is not a member of another religion.”
https://www.nbn.org.il/life-in-israel/government-services/rights-and-benefits/the-law-of-return/
Israeli law explicitly defines converts as Jews and extends this to citizenship and marriage considerations. It also defines a scenario in which ethnic Jews would not be legally Jewish, namely if they join a different religion.

>>17830871 (OP)
Why not just be a Noahide?

>>17831456
He is being a Noahide technically

>>17831456
I discuss this here >>17830937
>But more importantly than that as I encountered more of the Jewish community I found they were very different to my expectations. I found usually my cultural and social instincts would align with theirs, and that their way of life better resembles what I would want for myself and for my descendants. I also felt like Hashem had been giving me signs pointing in this direction, the final one that made me decide to just go for it being when I found out I actually have a mild case of phimosis that I always just thought was normal and would in fact benefit from circumcision. So beyond an intellectual interest those are reasons why I decided to formally join the chosen people rather than just privately being a Noahide.

>>17831462
Jacob is that you?

>>17831489
No, that’s not my name.

>>17831462
>the final one that made me decide to just go for it being when I found out I actually have a mild case of phimosis that I always just thought was normal and would in fact benefit from circumcision.

Holy kek my sides. You had a good thing going there OP, but you overdid it a little there.

>>17831342
If it were that easy a million jeets would just convert and live there

They only enforce the Jewish mother part

>>17831503
Many Jeets, Filipinos and Africans have literally done that. Jeets especially.

>>17831498
I’m being completely serious.
I will not provide photographic evidence for obvious reasons but I can elaborate on this.

>>17830871 (OP)
Mental illness

>>17831200
>You can't convert to Judaism lol.
You can, but Orthodox Jews especially are notorious for treating Jewish converts as second-class Jews.

Frankly, Rabbinic Judaism is one of the dumbest religions still practiced on Earth (especially Orthodox), which is why it literally has to be beat into your head 24/7 throughout your entire early life to make a person take it even semi-seriously. Even with how much little Jews have Judaism beat into them, like 30% of Jews are still atheists. Also, like over 50% of children raised Orthodox Jewish will fall away from Orthodoxy in adulthood (because it’s a horrible fucking religion). Liberal Judaism is the most popular form of Rabbinic Judaism today, and most of those fucks only celebrate the fun holidays, don’t go to Synagogue, and don’t even necessarily believe in god or the Tanakh.

Every goy Jewish convert I’ve ever met in my life was a literal retard or a schizo. Synagogues will take you in though because converts actually take Judaism more seriously and contribute more than actual Jews. It’s a dying religion. Being born into a Hasidic household has to be a top 20 worst life experience you can dice roll in this universe.

Are you converting into Modern Orthodoxy, or Chabad-Lubavitch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIV7SraxnZo

Turn back to CHRIST. NOW.

>>17832175
Christianity is just Judaism with extra steps

>>17832112
Modern Orthodoxy has never been more popular. The reform variants are the ones that are dying out. Because of intermarriage, like your picture mentions. There are many young Baal Teshuva's who were raised secular but return to the fold of orthodoxy & observance. It's the same principle as kids attending Church more regularly in pursuit of piousness. There's nothing fulfilling about liberal Judaism, unless you'd like to worship the American DNC.

>>17832188
>Modern Orthodoxy has never been more popular.
Ahaha, horseshit. Orthodoxy is just benefitting from the death of Judaism as a whole. You survive off your crazy birthrates, but like 40% of Ortho children disaffiliate as adults anyways. You need those 8 kids, because 4 of them are gonna leave. The only meaningful growth you have is as a percentage share of all of Judaism. This is easily explained by the fact that Liberal Judaism is barely a religion at all, so Liberal Jews are basically atheists, at least after a generation. Orthodoxy will simply be the last vestige to die out.
>reform variants dying out.
Yes, I agree. They’re dying quicker, because, as I said, Reform isn’t even a real religion. Why would I go to a fucking church full of atheists? Might as well sleep in on Sunday. Same for Reformed Judaism.
>intermarriage
Sure, because, as I said before, your kids need to be bonked in the head with Judaism every day of their life to even have a chance of giving a shit about that bullshit. Interfaith families don’t care about that shit. You think Mark Zuck’s Jap daughters give a fuck about the Hebrew necklaces he bought for them? They’re fucking Asian.
>many young Baal Teshuva's
This is horseshit and you know it. Orthodoxy survives off crazy birthrates rates, not fucking converts. Converts are a minuscule piece of the pie. You might get a couple religious Jews leaving Liberalism because it’s not even a fucking religion, so it’s Orthodoxy or atheism.
>attending Church more
Also horseshit. TradCath larpers on the internet don’t go to church. Church attendance is way down. It’s not even fucking close. The USA closes a net 3,000 churches every year. Young people are not actually attending church.
>nothing fulfilling about liberal Judaism
Agreed, which is why they’re mostly becoming atheists. Liberal Judaism is a LARP religion. This isn’t a talking point supporting Orthodoxy. It just explains why Liberal Judaism will die first.

>>17830871 (OP)

Are you doing this for a girl?

>>17830871 (OP)

Are you doing this for a girl?

>>17830871 (OP)
Do Orthodox Jews actually believe converts have a Jewish soul? I read it somewhere that it was their position, at least nominally. Also, how widespread are doctrines like Gilgul (Or Kabbalism in general) within Judaism? Or at least the community you live in.
Also, what's your opinion on Israel as a national project. I'm not trying to ask you about palestine, just the state itself. The project and aims of Zionism as a movement.

>>17832333
Yes, this teaching is actually quite commonly known and frequently mentioned when discussing conversion.
> Also, how widespread are doctrines like Gilgul (Or Kabbalism in general) within Judaism?
Most Jews know very little about Kabbalah, Haredim know more. Not that they reject it but it’s just obscure compared to the more instructional teachings of Judaism.
> Also, what's your opinion on Israel as a national project.
From what I can tell Zionism as a movement itself is quite internally diverse and Jews within and without Israel have a range of opinions about what Israel should ideally even look like. But generally speaking I think having a Jewish state in the holy land is a good thing. If that answers your question
>>17832263
A girl is part of the story but more in the sense that this is how I got to know people in the Jewish community and learn a bit about what their culture looks like IRL, particularly in a family context. That relationship got me interested in a way that wasn’t just intellectually abstract but converting (via Orthodoxy) while dating a Jew is complex and she wasn’t particularly observant so I didn’t start formally converting until a while after it was over.
>>17832245
Who hurt you?
>>17832162
Modern Orthodoxy, as far as I can tell Chabad don’t directly do conversions their outreach is intended more for born Jews.

>>17832696
>Most Jews know very little about Kabbalah, Haredim know more. Not that they reject it but it’s just obscure compared to the more instructional teachings of Judaism.
So do they just study the Tanakh and the Talmud or what do they study most?

>Chavad
Speaking of Hassidic dynasties, what's the general opinion on them among Orthodox Jews, if they even think about them at all, obviously.

>>17831048
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soleb
Even the Jews themselves (of which you are not and will never be a part) don't consider this evidence. We have thousands of years of writing from the New Kingdom and even before, and nowhere is it mentioned:
>that the Jews were enslaved
>that an entire race of people escaped
>that a man parted the seas
>that the Nile turned to blood
>that frogs caused mass panic
>that there were three days of total darkness
>that every Egyptian's firstborn suddenly died

>>17832713
The vast majority of Jews outside of Haredi communities only really know about the Tanakh. Beyond that it’s vague and eclectic unless you’re literally talking to a rabbi or someone that’s unusually learned. With the Talmud, or other legal texts, they’ll typically know more things because it filters in more strongly and directly into daily practice. Likewise you have some Kabbalist ideas that filter in to more mainstream consciousness, of which tikkun olam is probably the best example, but most people couldn’t cite chapter and verse where these ideas or coming from and some might not even know they’re Kabbalist concepts at all.
> what's the general opinion on them among Orthodox Jews, if they even think about them at all, obviously.
Opinion on Chabad is generally positive, at this point most practicing Jews growing up in the world come into some level of contact with Chabadniks and their outreach programs, or even secular Jews for that matter. But there’s some suspicion around Chabad messianism.
Opinion on Satmar is more negative but that’s more political than anything else and even then Satmar are an extremely insular community so most of them don’t really know that much about them other than being vaguely aware of anti-Zionist Haredim.
Otherwise I haven’t seen much comment on other Hasidic dynasties.

>>17832723
This is just moving the goal posts from “no evidence” to “not enough evidence”. Truly, atheists already have a faith based position on this and even if there was a literal Egyptian text found saying literally the same thing Exodus does they would rationalise some way to dismiss it.

>>17832713
>what's the general opinion on them among Orthodox Jews,
I can't say for sure but because Chabad is so public facing it looks like there are factions who are dismissive of them. They all study the same foundational material so that's not an issue. But Judaism is hierarchical and it's a matter of how hardline they want to be about maintaining separations and self-interest in various ways.

>>17831048
>And how, pray tell, does this contradict the Bible? The Torah itself tells us the original homeland of the Israelites was Canaan and that the idolatrous polytheistic religion of the latter years of Solomon’s reign included Hashem as part of a pantheon as per the influence of his Canaanite wife. Accepting that Hashem is lord and the ancient Israelites existed, of course their neighbours would incorporate Him into their pantheons, they saw evidence of the power of the Lord of Israel everyday
Gold metal mental gymnastics to avoid the fact ancient jews were throwing their infants into Iron bulls for YWHW. Have fun with your iron age jewish fairytales worshipping a saturnic war god. Absolute blight upon the good Earth that Abrahamism didn't die with the Roman-Jewish wars.

>>17831133
There are still Greek city-state ruins in Afghanistan left behind from his conquests in the region, see Ai-Khanoum, much less the on going debate about whether or not the Kalash and Nuristani are Greek decedent

Also, the Tophet sites of Tunisia attest to the fact that the Punics, as a Phoenician colony and subsequent decedents of the Cannanites and cousins of the ancients Jews, sacrificed hundreds to thousands of young children to their demonic gods, of the same pantheon that YWHW is from.

>>17833451
And we have Israelite ruins left behind from the subsequent effects of Joshua’s conquest of Canaan. How is it different?
>>17833402
The Torah explicitly bans child sacrifice. Your point?

>>17831243
>the Odyssey and the Bhagavad Gita.
both also probably based on real memories and have some historical kernels

>>17833568
>The Torah explicitly bans child sacrifice. Your point?
And yet Israel is enacting a barbaric campaign of systemic genocide, slaughtering children every day. Once a human sacrifice cult, always a human sacrifice cult (with a yearning to rip the foreskins off the penis's of infant boys). Disgusting religions, start to finish.

>>17834332
>Only Jews wage wars
lmao
Condemn the Crusades and resulting Jewish expulsions (you wont, instead you will use mental gymnastics to try and argue why it's not the same thing)

>>17834332
>Noooooo not the hecking sandniggerinos
Were you this mad about Iraq too?

>>17830871 (OP)
Have you had your foreskin snipped yet? Or were you already cut?

>>17834403
Nah I’m uncut, the Brit happens closer to the end on the process