I am ONCE AGAIN asking /his/ to explain to me, a non american why the confederates were "bad" or any worse than the founding fathers of america?
> in 1776 slave owning, traitorous aristocrats secede from their home nation and decide to create their own nation
>this is seen as good, is celebrated, and is seen as a truimph for freedom and democracy
>in 1861 slave owning, traitorous aristocrats secede from their home nation and decide to create their own nation
>this is seen as the worst thing ever
Why is it like this? I still haven't received a coherent explanation as to why slave owning aristocrats fighting against their mother country is good in one scenario but bad in another
>inb4 the american revolutionaries fought for freedom
the american whigs fought against their government because they weren't allowed to genocide red indians and because catholics in quebec were given equal rights. They were whigs of the 18th century not the hippy dippy liberals that post 1960 america has tried to portray them as. the confederates were just continuing on with that radical whig tradition of self governance
>y-you're a southerner
i'm british
I agree with both the revolutions of 1776 and 1861

>b-but the founding fathers didn't fight for slavery
YES THEY DID YOU SPASTIC
Lord Dunmore's proclamation that enslaved blacks who fought for britain would be freed is what led a huge number of southerners to fight for the revolutionary cause
Ergo the american revolutionaries of 1776 fought for slavery
And the americans also fought to expand past the appalachians, ensuring the racial genocide of the red man.
Why is slavery worse than manifest destiny genocide? I agree with both, by the way

>>17830966 (OP)
they weren’t, in fact most of the oldest families that settled and founded the US were in the confederacy
“these united states of America” died in the Civil War
The United States of America™ was founded in it’s place

>>17830966 (OP)
Flag design is worse because each star doesn't represent a state. Therefore the confederacy is worse

>>17830966 (OP)
>I still haven't received a coherent explanation as to why slave owning aristocrats fighting
Not all of the founders owned slaves and it was a subject of debate since the founding.
>the american whigs fought against their government because they weren't allowed to genocide red indians
Brits genocided the indians all the time. You're retarded.