>be me
>bitchy Chinese kid whose mom made me play piano all the time
>had a teacher and everything
>had to learn (or at least listen to) the whole classical piano repertoire and everything
>every spring she'd have some recital for all her students
>it was usually at this episcopal church in some rich suburb (about as rich as mine, but whiter)
>pull in at like 5:00 pm in an itchy suit with my mom
>have to walk through the back of the church, where all the sunday school / ccd / whatever they have classrooms are, to get from the parking lot to the main chapel where the piano and pews are
>see a bunch of older white girls walking around having youth group
>much hotter than any of the normies at my "diverse" public school
>or even my chinese church (yes, they have those... and mine was nondenomibaptist)

never tried to talk to / interact with any of them, but i simply couldn't stop catching glances of them before the recital, during bathroom breaks, and after the recital

don't think that's where i developed a thing for white girls, but it was definitely a contributor if not an outright source

also read their hymnals in the pews cuz i was bored, and they had a whole bunch of stuff my church's chinese-english hymnals lacked, like plainchant and "the eucharist"

thought they were more christian than my stupid chinese church at the time, but later found out they were the least christian of all christians

>>17833551 (OP)
They’re at the top of the economic caste heap for white Christian denominations but also one of the most woke outside of Unitarians. For “whitest” you’d probably want some Pentecostal church in Appalachia.

>>17833595
Latinx are getting Pentecostalpilled big time
I’ve never even heard of a Unitarian Universalist that was not some white upper middle class libtard. Their congregations are probably whiter than a klan rally

>>17833616
I was going to add to my comment that the charismatic movement was bigly influenced by the emotional fervor of African American Christianity. That church I had in mind up some Kentucky holler might be racially white but it’s the same vibe as some Puerto Rican storefront church in the Bronx or black Holiness church in Houston.

>>17833616
What's making Latin Americans leaving the Catholic church and converting to Protestant denominations? Like it's overall easier for me to imagine Christian -> atheist or even Christian -> Muslim, than Christian -> other flavor of Christian.

Unless it's "obviously skeevy abusive radical cult" -> "real Christianity", but pretty sure Protestantism is more prone to cult formation than the "Catholic" or universal church.

As for my own situation, I doubt Chinese Protestantism is a cult, but I'd like to hear your opinions.

>>17833551 (OP)

You should convert to Taoism/Confucianism. Return to your roots, man.

>>17833551 (OP)
As a fellow azn, I thought this thread was going to be about how episcopalian wasps are the only people with higher iqs than us before I saw OP devolved to racial fetishistic coomerism. To me WASPs are like the eldar, a mighty civilization fallen to degeneracy

>>17833914

You should convert to a native religion. What kind of Asian are you?

>>17833779
>>17833956
For me it was largely a family thing, like how I grew up.

Like my mom and aunt were into it, my entire mom's side of the family was into it, and most of mom's friend group was christian to some extent.

Even several Chinese family members, despite China having more freedom of religion.

So yeah, the whole ordeal was cognitively dissonant AF, but Christianity sort of WAS my "native religion".

And there I was drilled on how worshipping Chinese or Greco-Roman deities was fucking wrong and could send you to hell if you didn't accept the Lord Jesus as your personal savior; no syncretism allowed.

And I think they're sorta right even tho adhering to traditional Chinese folk religion would be more in line with my ethnicity and heritage

Like Christianity feels like a more stable faith with a more stable canon and creed

A lot of Chinese folk religion just elevates random generals and inventors to gods for no reason and offers like physical offerings of goods or incense to them, and I've gone to Chinese temples so I know what they're like.

The Chinese have a more "buffet" approach to religion and spirituality, it seems.

>>17833985

The best thing for you would be Taoism.

>>17833989
The best thing for OP would be Eastern Orthodoxy

>>17834081

In fact, no. Rancid, questionable morals based off of ancient Middle Eastern scrolls are not the best for him.

>>17833773
Some of it is a cargo cult, especially with “prosperity gospel” sects. Rather than be poor humble Roman Catholic sheep, you’ll be showered with U.S. style consoomer goods if you believe hard enough. Sometimes it’s a political reaction to Catholic liberation theology with right wingers drawn to right leaning churches. Then there’s the spectacle and fervor of Pentecostalism, with wild music, faith healing and flamboyant preachers, as opposed to a staid mass. The Catholic Church is stepping up their game to compete, adding more charismatic elements to their worship.

>>17833551 (OP)
I like being Episcopalian since I can speak Latin in church without falling into the papist heresy and at the same time maintaining the church's ancient traditions

As a Republic of China loyalist, I also appreciate that China is a diocese of our church.

>>17833616
My experience is that Latinos tend to become Eastern Orthodox or various traditions of Buddhism, usually very scholastic ones like dual practice Chinese Buddhism or Tibetan . They don't quite hate Catholicism either counter to the pop narrative. I live in a predominantly Hispanic place.

>>17834104
It is a social capital thing. Historically, Episcolpian's had a lot of political and economic capital and that rubbed off on them. They are also known for being accepting which makes them attractive, they have a wide understanding of theology too making them open for many unlike ssomething like the reformed christian traditions or eastern orthodox.

>>17833551 (OP)
>but later found out they were the least christian of all christians
They're the next best thing to Orthodox, which is the next best thing to the one true catholic and apostolic church.

>>17834104
>The Catholic Church is stepping up their game to compete, adding more charismatic elements to their worship
humiliation ritual

>>17834104
Hasn't Evangelicalism lost its luster on the US conservative podium in favor of Catholic resurgence in recent years?

>>17834160
This is news to me

>>17834186
Is Luce charismatic?

>>17833773
They want to be like the White people. That’s it.
>t. Salvadoran

>>17834276
It could be a local thing but it is pretty clearly the case where I live. Basically, only poor hispanics convert to fringe protestant traditions, we are talking the Papacy of Bob type stuff. Your everdyay person though tends to identify as catholic but see practice as private. However, when they do convert it is Eastern Orthodox, the most common ones near me convert to Antiochian Orthodox but there are a lot of Buddhists. It is also not pop Buddhism or western secular stuff, It is actual attending a temple with Chinese, Vietnamese or in the case of Tibetan Buddhists, some Indonesians.

>>17834276
>Hasn't Evangelicalism lost its luster on the US conservative podium in favor of Catholic resurgence in recent years?
They’re still around but slowly dying off like every other boomer thing, and younger cons aren’t buying into the goofy Christian Zionism. The tradcath/theobro faction seems to be growing with examples like J. D. Vance. I wonder if all the orthobros will ever have much political influence?

>>17834299
>the most common ones near me convert to Antiochian Orthodox
Really? Whereabouts? I’m in Michigan and my wife is Antiochian Orthodox, and all I ever see is Arabs apart from me, a couple of other outsider spouses and one American priest.

>>17834312
From what I've seen both online and IRL, Eastern Orthodox Christian denominations have been surprisingly open to outside converts.

I figured it would've been like Judaism lol

>>17834312
Southwest Texas, on the border with Mexico. There are a few Arabs, Ethiopians and former episcoplians too in the Eastern Orthodox Church here. There are exmuslims , mainly Saudi Arabian who study at the college who become catholic or Buddhist too here.

>>17834322
They are, but in the U.S. you will be immersed in a tight ethnic community—Russian, Greek, Palestinian, whatever—for better or worse.

>>17834331
Cool. I guess my experience makes me imagine every Orthodox congregation is an ethnic monolith. Interesting about the Saudis and it makes sense they would be attracted to Middle Eastern Christianity rather than some American derived sect.

>>17834331
Can you legally be exmuslim if you're a Saudi Arabian citizen, even if physically residing outside of Saudi Arabia?

I'd be really discreet about anything that could be construed as "apostasy" if I were in that position with how dogshit the job market and acceptance of foreigners / visa holders in the US is these days.

Because if I can't find anything, I'd have to go back lol. At least that's what happens to a lot of Indian and Chinese visa students.

>>17834356
Legally, no, as if you proclaimed or posted about it. They just don't tell anyone anything and do their thing. These dudes are engineers and I imagine they aren't too worried about getting a job. A common thing exmuslism do is just come out when they are safe and away from family and their country of origin. The few I have talked to keep down low. I knew one Pakistani who left and totally cut off their family, left Islam and just became an atheist after going getting a good job in Mexico.

>be me
>bitchy Chinese
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>>17834385
In 2025 it's fucking hard to get jobs even if you're in fields like CS or EE

And some say people on student visas like those Saudi Arabians are directly responsible for increasing the competition

>>17834397
CS is over for the most part now. That stuff is brutal. EE and CE are still ok here for the most part. Mexico has a lot of jobs related to that as does not a lot of infrastructure in the southwest. It just is not the stuff people are looking for usually.

>>17834408
So is it like they go to Mexico if they can't secure US sponsorship? Makes more sense ig idk

Schizo, but wonder if I can cope with CS newgrad unemployment in a few months as a rising college senior with only unpaid internship experience by seeing if I can secure a Mexican work visa

>>17834160
> My experience is that Latinos tend to become Eastern Orthodox or various traditions of Buddhism, usually very scholastic ones like dual practice Chinese Buddhism or Tibetan
What’s your sample size on this? Like 3?
In the past 30 years evangelicals have gone from like 1% of the Latinx population to 20%. Brazil and Centroamerica are probably going to be majority evangelical in our lifetime.

>>17834276
The tradcath resurgence is mainly an internet thing for people that don’t go to church. Evangelicalism is still king of American political Christianity.

>>17834408
Is CS actually over but is it a skull issue

>>17835450
Yes it is sadly, thanks to a combination of outsourcing and AI

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