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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:13:54 PM No.17835830
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I have this new theory or theories about reality and it's very simple. There is a god. There is awakening from the dream of material life. The process of this awakening unfolds through: prayer, meditation, asceticism, not lying, and celibacy. That's it. I think I might be wrong on the big stuff, but I have personally seen how these five practices have led me to higher states of bliss in my consciousness. If you disagree, or if you think this is nonsense, your opinion is still appreciated. Thanks. Pic unrel.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:14:52 PM No.17835831
>>17835830 (OP)
Where does it say that in the King James Bible?
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:16:34 PM No.17835835
>>17835830 (OP)
Hi Anon!
Why is "not lying" pointed out and not for example envy or some other conventional sin?
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:23:18 PM No.17835849
>>17835835
Well because most people I think already know envy is bad but most think lying can be justified in so-called white lies and that is a grave error which leads to much mischief and wickedness in the long run.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:24:19 PM No.17835852
>>17835835
Also lying is generally one of the worst sins if not the worst sin of all according to Nietzsche (afaik) and ancient Persians (afaik). I'm still unsure if it is but it's possible.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:37:52 PM No.17835869
>>17835852
Jordan Peterson fanboy. Yawn.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:48:31 PM No.17835888
>>17835869
NTA But JP is pretty based
or at least used to be
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:51:03 PM No.17835893
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>>17835888
>JP is pretty based
He's always been an overrated, bloviating trainwreck.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:01:01 PM No.17835921
>>17835893
Not really. Maps of Meaning are incredibly insightful. And what you posted is a psychoanalytical bit in the introduction to it.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:05:21 PM No.17835930
>>17835921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvBm0ZUfe7I

7 Years ago.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:08:19 PM No.17835936
>>17835930
>Individual rights are the only consistent framework for reduction of suffering
Based and true.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:47:27 PM No.17836030
>>17835921
>Maps of Meaning are incredibly insightful
I don't mean to be an asshole and put all the work on you. But, can you be more specific, about what does it provide insight?
Unless you just meant it as a generic praise
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:53:59 PM No.17836043
You are correct OP and my personal experiences corroborate this as well. Spirituality raises as you weaken the ego. This is key, you have to take yourself out of play as much as possible
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:55:17 PM No.17836044
Also oddly enough for some reason talking shit about the Jews seems to help but this could just be a coincidence I'm not entirely sure.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:55:29 PM No.17836045
>>17835830 (OP)
How would you go about figuring out if this is true or false?
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:02:30 PM No.17836057
>>17836030
No problem. The insight that impacted me the most was that right in the introduction he proposes mythology to describe the world not as an inventory of items in time and space, but as a forum for action. To my young materialist brain this was quite a shock since it managed to establish a very specific framework in which myths are true whereas others like Mircea Eliade can only tell you that it references some general patterns and Levi-Strauss can pretty much just reduce myths to logical operators.
But JP instead goes on to establish the types of actors and situations that are common in myths, what are their usual aspects and ultimately why it matters. If I remember correctly there is some kind of cascade structure that depicts how the more general, aetherical beliefs (such as myths) provide a framework for slightly more specific narratives (political) and how those enable us to codifyu behavior (ritual) etc. Meaning he not only gives you some relatively (!) solid keys to interpreting mythology, he shows you where mythology would fit on our maps of meaning - how they anchor our fundamental undestanding of what it means to be human down to neurological level.

I remember the last third was more about literature analysis than about neurology and psychology though, so that wasn't that fun. I've got loads of notes from the book and I must admit I haven't looked at them in the past 8 years, but might do it soon.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:09:17 PM No.17836076
>>17836057
>Myths are true
This is something JP says I take issue with
In what sense are they 'true'', if they didn't literally happen as an event in history? At this point he's using a idiosyncratic definition of the word 'true'
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:11:50 PM No.17836081
>>17836045
Simple intuition. You can't reason or argue with yourself. If it works, brings happiness, then it's true.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:15:08 PM No.17836089
>>17836057
I've always thought his stuff about legends, myths and Disney movies has been his best talks.
While I don't agree with him about what to take away from this. Jungian synchronicity and all that, I don't buy any of it.

I'm being 100% serious when I say hearing him talk about Jiminy Cricket and human psychology is both entertaining AND interesting.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:16:22 PM No.17836091
>>17836081
Sounds dangerously postmodern
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:21:24 PM No.17836097
>>17836076
>At this point he's using a idiosyncratic definition of the word 'true'
Yes, the one he lists in the introduction - myths are true insofar as they describe the world as forum for action and the patterns of those actions. Oedipus meeting a sfinx isn't true because a dude with a particular government name met a particular hybrid creature in a particular location some time. We wouldn't really care if he did. It is true because you truly encounter unclarity (hybrid) that requires your response (answer) to a question that's not intelligible by usual interpretation (riddle) and this can be a matter of life and death if blah blab blah I don't remember how the story goes.

In the end it's always going to be "metaphorically" true from the materialist perspective, but that's a pointless classification when the stories are not using a materialist perspective.

>>17836089
Yeah, the Pinocchio lecture is one of the top 10 videos I've ever seen on youtube.
Synchronicity is a weird one, but it is comforting to see his mind is open.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:29:16 PM No.17836109
>>17836091
It does. But that doesn't mean it is.