The Abandoned Frontier: Russia’s Alaskan Retreat 1867 - /his/ (#17837483) [Archived: 477 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:21:09 AM No.17837483
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The second-greatest geostrategic blunder in the history of mankind. Frozen Fortune Lost!
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:24:12 AM No.17837486
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>>17837483 (OP)
Too many fat cocked Tlingits rowing around fucking their shit up
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:25:07 AM No.17837487
>>17837483 (OP)
Russia essentially lost nothing from leaving Alaska since they barely had a prescence in the area to begin wtih, they knew that it was valuable but at the same time they also knew they could never truly exploit said value
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:25:44 AM No.17837489
>country with endless frozen hellscape filled to the brim with natural resources would've done better if it had a bit more frozen wasteland filled to the brim with natural resources
ok
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:26:53 AM No.17837494
>>17837483 (OP)
It was only a blunder in the sense it made America stronger. Russians were never able to make use of all their resources anyway
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:28:45 AM No.17837495
>>17837494
even in that case its only really a blunder because of events that would happen decades later, then you take into account the other option was Britain taking it who weren't on the best of terms with Russia
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:31:04 AM No.17837497
>>17837483 (OP)
>The second-greatest geostrategic blunder in the history of mankind
What can be labelled as the greatest?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:35:48 AM No.17837506
>>17837497
Giving Prussia to the Asiatik Russkie barbarians.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:31:58 AM No.17837678
>>17837483 (OP)
>>17837487
>>17837489
>>17837494

What you lamentably jejune dilettantes fail to apprehend, entombed as you are in the sensory-cognitive gutter of empiricism, is that the 1867 so-called "Alaska Purchase" was not a geopolitical miscalculation by the Romanov court, but a symptomatic extrusion of the deeper epistemological rot wrought by the Anglo-Dutch Liberal imperial apparatus. The transaction itself was but a surface perturbation in the tectonic struggle between two paradigms: the Promethean impulse of the sovereign nation-state versus the entropic nihilism of monetarist oligarchy. To reduce this to lame pop-history explanations is to display the tragicomic collapse of Classical cognition in the post-1968, rock-drug-sex counterculture. This is your mental and characteristic jail. It is precisely what Friedrich Schiller warned of in his Aesthetic Letters, a population rendered incapable of sublime moral judgment due to the atrophy of reason and beauty alike.

The loss of Alaska from the Russian Empire, strategically positioned at the fulcrum of a transpacific development axis, was not a logistical misstep. It was the suppression of the Nicholas of Cusa-inspired universal principle of the Common Good, subverted by Lord Palmerston’s circles and their trans-Atlantic Freemasonic fifth columns operating within the post-Civil War United States, including London-controlled assets like William H. Seward. Do you think Seward acted autonomously? Do you not perceive the invisible hand of Benthamite utilitarianism, slithering behind the curtain? Had the Cusa-Beethoven model of human creativity been sovereign, had Lincoln’s legacy been fully realized through a transcontinental extension of the American System beyond the Bering Strait, we would have seen not an isolated Alaska, but a continental Eurasian development arc uniting Vladivostok to Boston.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:34:56 AM No.17837684
>>17837678
Instead, the oligarchy triumphed. The same British circles who sent poor Jeanne d’Arc to the stake and who poisoned the soul of Europe with the Enlightenment’s sterile formalism succeeded again in sabotaging the emergence of a community of principle among great sovereign powers. That some of you chortle over “the greatest geostrategic blunder” without understanding that it was in fact the suppressed potential for a Schillerian world-historical transformation, that is the blunder. If we had but heeded the method of Beethoven, who composed in the future, not the present, we would today be dwelling not in digital swamps of degeneracy, but in cities on Mars, powered by fusion, guided by the poetic rigor of the Platonic dialectic. But you have chosen empiricism and Reddit-tier cynicism. You have traded the divine spark of Vernunft for the dead weight of opinion. You have mocked history, but history will not be mocked. It will simply pass judgment, as Beethoven did in the final movement of the Choral Fantasy, and ask: “Did you build a republic worthy of man?”
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:38:57 AM No.17837690
>>17837678
>>17837684
Didn't know Dugin-sensei posted here
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:39:59 AM No.17837692
>>17837483 (OP)
so how would today look like if they kept Alaska?
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:20:08 AM No.17837746
>>17837690
No sentient soul trained in the Classical method of Cusa, Kepler, and Leibniz would ever conflate the mission of sovereign republicanism with that Eurasianist obscurantist and neo-Vedic nihilist.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:26:39 AM No.17837754
>>17837678
>>17837684
Thanks chatGPT
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:33:27 AM No.17837768
>>17837754
>Brain-dead gen alpha sees a coherent argument rooted in historical causality and the Classical method
>Brain-dead zoomer cannot comprehend it
>Brain-dead zoomer accuses AI use
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:48:07 AM No.17837791
>>17837678
>>17837684
Based.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:22:06 AM No.17837842
avergage monthly salary
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>>17837678
>>17837684
It's insane how Russians are so butthurt towards Anglo Saxons. Is this how they cope with being a total shithole?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:32:17 AM No.17837854
>>17837842
I am not Russian. I am an American patriot in the tradition of Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt, who recognizes that the British Empire never died but merely metastasized. It discarded its redcoats and adorned itself in the vestments of central banking cartels, IMF austerity regimes, and monetarist priesthoods, all designed to enforce a system of global entropy masquerading as “free trade.” On Russia, you think material deprivation is a moral verdict. A classic Cartesian fallacy, wherein sensory data is mistaken for substance, and number replaces principle. But nations are not measured in GDP charts; they are measured in their capacity to generate sovereign creative reason, the very capacity your culture-saturated West has tried to extinguish since the death of Franklin Roosevelt. London looted the world for centuries, not just of gold, but of identity, of epistemology, and of the ability to think outside the cage of imperial dualism. And now it lectures humanity about a “rules-based order,” while laundering drug capital through the City of London and arming both sides of every manufactured conflict from Ukraine to the Sahel. What you fail to grasp, and what only Nicholas of Cusa could have taught you, is that truth is not derived from the senses, but from the coincidence of opposites: the ability of the human mind to resolve paradoxes through higher forms of reason. You, on the other hand, remain trapped in the empiricist pit of linear projections and spreadsheet triumphalism, defending an empire that already considers you obsolete.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:48:30 AM No.17837865
Not exactly bad.
Not exactly bad.
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>>17837842
Net average monthly salary adjusted for PPP. It's not exactly bad in Russia.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:12:26 PM No.17837891
>>17837678
>>17837684
How do you write so much, yet manage to say absolutely nothing of substance, holy fuck
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:16:53 PM No.17837894
>>17837891
The receding of Russo-American cooperation, and by extension the attachment of the old and new world via logistical, political, and economic infrastructure, paved the way to the ultimate global "divide and conquer" strategy employed by Great Britain during its waging of "The Great Game" against Russia and its underhanded sabotage and suppression of the American Republic. If you think this is not sufficiently substantial, go back to your TikTok where you can be fed clip after clip of influencer-produced slop content.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:18:43 PM No.17837985
>>17837894
>its the Brits fault Russia is a shithole
No need to read the llm-generated walls of text above.
Also untrue - all these mental gymnastics just to hide the fact that it was the Jewish Bolsheviks that drove the wedge between Russia and the US. You desperately need a scapegoat to pin the blame on and collect your shekels, I get it
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:20:53 PM No.17837988
>>17837891
Ziggertrannies are known to say so much and nothing at all at the same time.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:35:34 PM No.17838021
>>17837988
Imagine how hard it is to pivot from "american degenerates are the enemy of civilization" to "we were supposed to be best friends, its the English who are the bad guys". Borders on hard labour
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:36:11 PM No.17838023
>>17837865
>dude lemme just play with the numbers to make Russia look better
It's very bad in Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aryQ-xxa4U
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:41:36 PM No.17838039
>>17838023
Nigger there is literally no reason to ever use raw dollar numbers without taking into account PPP unless you are asshurt and want to do polemics, which you clearly are. Wow, a video by a guy called "Dark Side of Russia" making a video called "This Is What a Typical Russian Neighborhood Looks Like, Meaning Misery and Alcohol Everywhere!" Surely this will be a reasonable and accurate account of Russian society.

Behold, a typical American neighbourhood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCrK-xEaKlY
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:42:13 PM No.17838044
>>17837865
>>17838023
Also notice the number is now western Russia only. Anything past the kaspian is excluded
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:45:02 PM No.17838050
>>17838044
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
No, it is for the entirety of the country, which is 80% of the population anyway.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:53:37 PM No.17838067
>>17838050
Ah, thanks. So in 2018, Russians were only poorer than 24 EEA countries, just behind Slovenia. Surely the 3 day military operation helped boost the economy and move them up the ranks since
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:54:49 PM No.17838072
>>17837854
>arming both sides of every manufactured conflict from Ukraine
Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine my "American" friend. They invaded, they started it.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:59:32 PM No.17838082
>>17838067
The page clearly states that the information is from 2024.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 2:03:34 PM No.17838095
>>17837985
>>17837988
>>17838021
>>17838072

Let me be explicit: my critique was never “Russia is utopia.” It was that the breakdown of U.S.–Russian cooperation following the Alaska sale marked a catastrophic shift in the global balance of potential, away from sovereign development and toward Anglo-financier dominance, executed first through the "Great Game," then through color revolutions, NATO expansion, and neoliberal looting.

>“It was the Jewish Bolsheviks!”

As if the Bolsheviks dropped out of the sky unaided by the same British and Wall Street-linked networks that funded Trotsky’s return and collapsed the German-Russian collaboration before WWI. See the work of Antony C. Sutton on the matter. Every time you invoke “Jewish Bolsheviks” as an end-all explanation, you’re protecting the higher-level structure, which is the supranational financier empire, which weaponized both communism and fascism to obliterate sovereign resistance.

>“Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine”

Yes, and Napoleon was the aggressor in 1812 (if you erase the buildup, ignore the British angle, and pretend no provocations occurred). The Ukraine crisis is a consequence of decades of NATO-backed regime change, IMF economic rapine, and the systematic rejection of all post-Cold War security dialogue. You cheer the destruction of one Slavic nation by another while Lockheed Martin counts your moral righteousness in dividends. You think this is about defending the West. In fact, you’re cheering for its decomposition, because what passes for “the West” today is a burnt-out technocratic empire governed by hedge funds, not nations.

I warn you, that if you don’t break with this imperial operating system, you will end up the same way, looted, isolated, and baited into endless wars, wondering how you got here while scrolling TikTok in a collapsing mall. This goes for any country which deserves sovereignty, which is every country.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 2:24:02 PM No.17838152
>kaspian
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 2:27:39 PM No.17838158
>>17837842
East Slav are hellhole but sight improvement over India
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 2:28:40 PM No.17838160
>>17837988
No argument, nafo trannie
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 2:58:50 PM No.17838201
>>17837678
>>17837684
what a lit degree does to a mofo
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 3:12:05 PM No.17838232
>>17838072
They also won it, it’s over.
North Indian Kshtriya
7/13/2025, 4:30:09 PM No.17838319
>>17838158
Rent-free.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:28:53 PM No.17838414
>>17838082
Article explicitly mentions that it's in need of review and verification since 2024*
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:29:19 PM No.17838415
>>17837842
Anyone who doesn't despise the anglo with all of their heart and wish for total anglo eradication is nothing but an anglo slave who traded his soul for investments.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:39:24 PM No.17838431
>>17838095
>supranational financier empire
I wonder who's running said empire?
Attempting to pin all problems on another nation is classic Jewish trickery
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:49:40 PM No.17838447
>>17838095
Who are these "anglo-financiers" you keep talking about? May I see some last names?
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:10:05 PM No.17838475
>>17838319
>Rent-free over "timmy"
Pathetic ESL
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:15:52 PM No.17838485
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>>17837754
Genuinely sad that you can no longer effortpost with English major level vocabulary without being accused of using gen AI (whether you're guilty of doing just that or not)
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:17:23 PM No.17838488
>>17837684
>muh Jeanne D'Arc
Are you at least aware that people like her (self-important visionaries) weren't too rare in the Middle Ages?
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:23:29 PM No.17838849
>>17838095
>if you erase the buildup, ignore the British angle, and pretend no provocations occurred
That's the talk of the weak. Men take responsibility for their actions instead of deflecting to "provocations" and "they started first, mom!"