Did Ancient Greeks really destroy their civilization over this pussy? It’s obvious the greek states weakened significantly after Troy war and never recovered. Was the fight really over her or was there other reasons involved

It wasn't a single war in reality as far as I am aware and it almost certainly started like any other war, lots of various factors and actors all with their own causes and motivations. And if it was started over some "mid" woman that makes sense. A kinda cute but not dropdead woman will be the best pussy you've ever had in your life.

>>17843204 (OP)
Assuming it actually happened similarly to how Homer describes it then I think it's safe the assume they attacked because of the implications of stealing Menelaus' wife on the honour of the Greeks, rather than just because she was actually unbelievably beautiful

>>17843204 (OP)
You fucking what? The "Greek states" were bronze age warlords scratching an existence out of rocks at the time of the historical Trojan war and all the things we associate with ancient Greece proper came centuries, if not almost a millennium later.

>>17843554
They were more advanced back then but /his/ isn’t ready for that discussion.

>>17843644
>they were more advanced in the bronze age than the hellenistic age
Ok retard time for your antiretard pills.

>>17843653


They were multiple palaces excavated from the time of Trojan war retard. They were pretty advanced.

>>17843204 (OP)
Yes she was white and probably had red hair, at least this fresco suggests that she did. I give your post 7/10 for not getting her race wrong.

>>17843774
Compare the """"palace"""" at Pylos or Mycenae with the palace at Aigai, then get back to me.

>>17843779
A fresco at Pompeii dated to 79, something like a millennium after the Siege of Troy and with their only information being oral history that we have access to today? If someone in 1033 painted Jesus, would it be more accurate than the idea we have of him today?

>>17843789
This is why I laugh every time I see that one Pompeii mosaic being held up as what Alexander looked like, even though there's no evidence it's even supposed to be Alexander and not a random soldier.

>>17843790
it's particularly strange because we have plenty of examples of contemporary busts of him. I guess the argument is that they're political and idealised, but we also use the Prima Porta statue of Octavian, so it kind of falls flat.

>>17843789
>If someone in 1033 painted Jesus, would it be more accurate
depends on how white they portray him

>>17843800
It looks dramatic and hes handsome I guess.

>>17843204 (OP)
The three main sources for the Trojan War are Greek epics from about 800-500 BC, archaeology and Hittite tablets covering about 1400-1200 BC.

The Greek epics tell the story we're familiar with. The archaeology tells us there was a city in the area where Troy was supposed to be, which might be the city of Wilusa (= ilios? = troy?) mentioned in some Hittite documents. This city has multiple destruction layers, one probably from an earthquake, one from fire. And Hittite documents mention the 'ahi-yawa' with yawa probably derived from iōnes, archaically iawones (ionians, i.e. greeks). A Hittite text also mentions a king of Wilusa called Alaksandu (Alexander), a greek name. But it's impossible to determine if any of the destruction layers in Wilusa were due to a war with the 'yawa' and if so, whether this inspired anything specific in the much later Greek epics.

To answer your question: we don't know if there was a historical Trojan War, so we can't be as specific as getting into the nitty gritty of why it hypothetically started. Maybe there was a folk memory among the Greeks of wars involving Wilusa, but there's no way to check any of the specifics.

>>17843653
TBF Bronze Age Greece was the most SOVLFUL period and place in human history

>>17843790
helen is a mythological figure, those who made the alexander mosaic had first hand depictions of him for reference