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Anonymous No.17844529 [Report] >>17844555 >>17844558 >>17844590 >>17844591 >>17844633 >>17845244 >>17846084
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Anonymous No.17844555 [Report] >>17844600
>>17844529 (OP)
Problem, heathen?
Anonymous No.17844558 [Report] >>17844600
>>17844529 (OP)
Based desu
Anonymous No.17844561 [Report] >>17844600
they need jesus
Anonymous No.17844590 [Report]
>>17844529 (OP)
KWAB
Anonymous No.17844591 [Report]
>>17844529 (OP)
Portuguese were there first.
Anonymous No.17844600 [Report] >>17844616 >>17844666 >>17844695 >>17846050
>>17844555
>>17844558
>>17844561
Anonymous No.17844616 [Report] >>17844717 >>17845025 >>17845358 >>17845359 >>17845912
>>17844600
what comes around goes around
Anonymous No.17844633 [Report] >>17846356
>>17844529 (OP)
Doesn't really make sense, the main christianizing force in Japan was Portugal
Anonymous No.17844666 [Report] >>17844717 >>17845025 >>17845912
>>17844600
Anonymous No.17844695 [Report] >>17844756
>>17844600
>almost lose battle to a fucking trade ship
Anonymous No.17844717 [Report] >>17844761 >>17844845 >>17844924
>>17844666
>>17844616
Bad choice, the free masons bombed a Catholic cathedral at Nagasaki and a huge chunk of the Christian population. Wiping out future generations
Christianity has never recovered in Japan since
Anonymous No.17844756 [Report] >>17844775
>>17844695
they didn't almost lose, they had 1000s more Samurai to use before they lost. There is no shame in human wave tactics if YOU WIN:
Anonymous No.17844761 [Report] >>17845245
>>17844717
>catholics
>christian
lole
Anonymous No.17844764 [Report]
@17844761
Yeah we get it, you hate Christ and His Church
You can stop posting now
Anonymous No.17844775 [Report]
>>17844756
They did almost lose. They lost hundreds of men the first three days to a tiny multiracial trade crew. Even on the fourth day they only succeeded in burning the sails. The Japanese won only because Pessoa ordered his crew to set the magazine alight to kill the maximum number of people all at once. By their own efforts the Japanese were unable to win the battle.
Anonymous No.17844845 [Report] >>17845245
>>17844717
Catholics aren't Christian
Anonymous No.17844924 [Report] >>17845245
>>17844717
>catholics
>christian
Sorry, you don't even care what the Bible says. Enjoy Hell.
Anonymous No.17845025 [Report] >>17845032 >>17845101
>>17844616
>>17844666
>celebrating nuking innocent civilians
So this is Christian morality?
Anonymous No.17845032 [Report] >>17845075
>>17845025
It was the justice of God
Anonymous No.17845075 [Report] >>17845084
>>17845032
Abrahamic God is false
Anonymous No.17845084 [Report] >>17846643
>>17845075
Christ is King
Anonymous No.17845085 [Report]
iberimoors were so mindbroken by the 800 years of arab rape of their people and lands they went full good slaves of the vatican to cope.
Anonymous No.17845101 [Report] >>17846643
>>17845025
Half of asia would think it was deserved
Anonymous No.17845106 [Report] >>17845145 >>17845245
Haha remember when the Jesuits started sponsoring random Japanese warlords
Anonymous No.17845145 [Report]
>>17845106
Jesuits are above the rules for the rest of us, they even survived the atom bomb
https://ewtn.co.uk/article-the-jesuit-priests-who-survived-hiroshima/
Anonymous No.17845244 [Report] >>17845914 >>17846008
>>17844529 (OP)
You act as if it's a problem
Japs were never forced to convert. It's a completely voluntary conversion
Anonymous No.17845245 [Report] >>17845268 >>17845275
>>17844761
>>17844845
>>17844924
The Japanese Catholics were more Christian than you are.

>>17845106
>Blessed Justo Takayama Ukon
>random
Anonymous No.17845268 [Report] >>17845287 >>17845369
>>17845245
>hiragana everywhere
>all furigana in hiragana
I thought hiragana was viewed as a script for women and faggots before the spelling reforms?
Anonymous No.17845275 [Report]
>>17845245
>The Japanese Catholics were more Christian than you are.
No, sorry. You are LARPing.
Anonymous No.17845287 [Report] >>17845334
>>17845268
>women and faggots
i.e. the Japanese people
Anonymous No.17845334 [Report]
>>17845287
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Anonymous No.17845358 [Report] >>17847410 >>17847685
>>17844616
They rebuilt it in like 5 years without a single Christcuk helping.
Anonymous No.17845359 [Report]
>>17844616
>Nagasaki was home to one of the last remnant Christian enclaves in Japan
lmao
Anonymous No.17845369 [Report]
>>17845268
>>I thought hiragana was viewed as a script for women
Anon, that was true hundreds of years before that image was created, and was also a prejudice held by an entirely different social class than the one depicted here. Samurai were not erudite Heian courtiers who wanked off to Chinese poetry, they held no special esteem for being able to write like a Chinese scholar.
Anonymous No.17845912 [Report]
>>17844616
>>17844666
America is a Judeo-Masonic nation so I don't get the point you're trying to make.
Anonymous No.17845914 [Report] >>17846321
>>17845244
Nobody is forced into being trans either.
Anonymous No.17846008 [Report]
>>17845244
This is a time dependent statement.

When the Portuguese missionaries first arrived in Japan in 1549 there were no overall rules, laws or guidelines on religious conversion because the country was not yet unified. Most of Christian Europe, including Portugal, operated under the concept of Cuius regio, eius religio, Whose realm, his religion. So when Ōmura Sumitada, Ōtomo Sōrin, and Arima Yoshisada each converted to Christianity they also sought to convert the people of their domain as well.

It was only in 1587 that Hideyoshi completed the unification of Japan. He waited until just after the deaths of Ōmura Sumitada and Ōtomo Sōrin to issue his Bateren Edict on July 24, 1587. He decided that any commoner could become Christian, but the feudal lords needed his permission first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bateren_Edict#Translation
>1. Being a Christian should be at the discretion of the person.
>4. A daimyo with more than 3,000 Kan and 200 towns can become a Christian with the permission of Hideyoshi.
>9. It does not matter that a person with a lower status (rather than a daimyo, etc.) becomes a Christian at will, as in the case of the eight sects and nine sects.

Hideyoshi then issued a second anti-Christian edict the next day banning the Christian missionaries. The Jesuit missionaries were wise and so hid and kept a low profile until Hideyoshi changed his mind and allowed Christian missionaries to operate unofficially in his shadow.

This worked until October 19, 1596 when the Spanish ship San Felipe avoided Nagasaki and was beached at Urado. Chōsokabe Motochika confiscated all their trade goods. When they went to Kyoto to sue, they avoided the Portuguese Jesuits and instead relied on the Spanish Franciscans who were newcomers to Japan. The Spanish crew then made comments that revealed that Portugal had been ruled by Spain since 1580, something which the Portuguese Jesuits had never disclosed. Hideyoshi flew into a rage.
Anonymous No.17846050 [Report]
>>17844600
As a result of the San Felipe incident Hideyoshi was furious. He then ordered his men to round up the Spanish Franciscans in Kyoto and put them to death. He used his July 25, 1587 anti-Christian edict which he had not enforced against the Portuguese Jesuits as a legal pretext to have Christians executed under his law. Nevertheless, three Jesuits posed as Franciscans in solidarity with their religious brothers. 26 Christians were executed on February 5, 1597.

But this was a one time incident under Hideyoshi. Christian persecution in Japan didn't occur again until 1614 under Tokugawa Ieyasu. Scholars have noted that Christian persecution began just months after the arrival in Japan of the English East India Company merchant John Saris aboard the Clove.

Both the Englishman William Adams and Dutch East India Company merchants had already been living in Japan long term. Dutch law in the Netherlands allowed freedom of religion between Christians, Protestant and Catholic alike.
Anonymous No.17846084 [Report] >>17847349
>>17844529 (OP)
Not to worry, more....reliable westerners can be contacted.
Anonymous No.17846321 [Report]
>>17845914
Kids cannot consent
Anonymous No.17846356 [Report]
>>17844633
Yeah but it's not like Spain was that much different in approach
Anonymous No.17846643 [Report] >>17847413
>>17845084
Christ was a schizo rabbi
>>17845101
They’ve been brainwashed by anti-Japanese propaganda
Anonymous No.17847349 [Report]
>>17846084
>gets reduced to a tiny isle in Nagasaki Bay
>only allowed to leave every two years to visit Edo so the shogun and major daimyo can laugh at western manners
>"go on, use that silly thing of yours, your fork"
Anonymous No.17847410 [Report]
>>17845358
Americans are probably atheists in that time lol
Anonymous No.17847413 [Report]
>>17846643
Stop the cope, brownboi
Anonymous No.17847685 [Report]
>>17845358
>without a single Christcuk helping.
You idiot!
The moment they surrendered, US humanitarian aid came rushing in to help.
Corpses were stolen for study, which creeped out many of the locals