So the Rwandan genocide killed somewhere between 500,000 and 800,000 people in 100 days, in a backwater African shithole, with nothing but machetes and a few rifles. And you're telling me one of the most advanced states in the world couldn't kill 7-12x that many in 20x the time (1939-1945) with machine guns and poison gas?
Are holocaust deniers just stupid? Do they actually think anyone will fall for their shitty agitprop?

>>17844849 (OP)
Because they aren’t sincere in their denial. The goal is to rehabilitate Nazi Germany and Hitler, and they know the idea of a society that has no major compunction against genocide is a non starter for the average person. The whole ‘it never happened and they deserved it’ thing is the best illustration. You can’t prove the Holocaust to them because they don’t want proof of a historical event. They want to rehabilitate a bunk ideology. It’s the same with communists trying to claim Stalin and Mao didn’t kill a mess of people.

>>17844849 (OP)
>Are holocaust deniers just stupid? Do they actually think anyone will fall for their shitty agitprop?
It's like flat Earthers, logic is not the point, the point is pretending to be a 'rebel against the establishment' by denying reality.
In the case of Holocaust deniers, they also have the long-term agenda of making Nazism accepted by society, as if it were a normal ideology like social liberalism or Christian democracy. What actually happened in history is not what Holocaust denial is about. Holocaust deniers don't give a crap about history, reality, or the truth.

>>17844849 (OP)
The thing is that Germany was waging war against the 3 biggest superpowers at the same time and the gas thing doesnt make any sense
A bullet is way quicker and cheaper
I think the holocaust happened but its way too exagerated and it was with more conventional ways

>>17845361
This is the logical position with or without gas. There's no question most ink spilled about the holocaust is kooky atrocity propaganda of they type that has serious real-world consequences. If you ask google how many died in WW2 total, it gives a number of 70-85 MILLION people. The holocaust and Hitler are a massive attempt to pass the buck for something so catastrophic happening, whatever the reason, great powers shared responsibility and they don't want to address it today. Because of that, it will happen again.

>>17845255
>>17845335
Its not to rehabilitate Nazism because i don’t think the holocaust was unjustified and immoral in the first place.

>>17844849 (OP)
Most genocides are actually propaganda considering genocide as a word didn't exist until the Poles made it up. You know the poles, the guys that accused all their enemies of eating babies.

>>17845471
genocides are propaganda in the same way that cats are mammals

>>17844849 (OP)
The Rwandan genocide is exaggerated
The Holocaust is exaggerated
The Holodomor is exaggerated
The Cultural Revolution is exaggerated.

This is all true.

>>17845496
The cultural revolution didn't happen and also Americans did it with bioterrorism that justifies similar acts in the present and future.

>>17845491
Not really, would you say vanquishing an enemy is a genocide? Is every conflict ever a genocide because it displaced people?

The Rwandan genocide was most likely the latter, with people fleeing into the surrounding countries. They say the exact amount if refugees crossed into the congo that was supposedly "genocided"

>>17845508
Then you have to consider that yes, the official bodies that decide if something is a genocide or not does so based on if it "displaces" people. Then you start wondering why you're told shoving jews into ovens was called genocide because that's much worse

>>17845533
then when you look further into what they consider genocide you see "extreme mental anguish"

>>17845361
What about Treblinka? It was just a motor to make carbon monoxide. Simple and deadly.

>>17845508
>Not really, would you say vanquishing an enemy is a genocide?
depends on what you mean by vanquishing, but to be honest i put no special moral weight on the term genocide. i generally consider it to be ordinary warfare. regardless it will be exploited for propaganda purposes

>>17845699
great point, was delousing agent really more cost effective? I guess they produced and shipped the stuff industrially, but it seems like needless complication when they could just burn a little diesel fuel.

>>17845361
>I think the holocaust happened but its way too exagerated and it was with more conventional ways
ok le enlightened centrist, what facts do you have to counter the accepted view?

>>17845704
Why not handcuffs and a machete? There's plenty of psychopaths that enjoy killing, you could easily slit 100 throats in an hour.

There's slaughterhouses that process tens of thousands of cows a day, and they're processing meat. A simple slitting of the throat requires just a blade.

>>17845787
80 million people died in the war and the holocaust is essentially a minor episode, or rather series of loosely connected events that certainly wouldn't have occurred outside the scope of the broader war, a war we should investigate in its real causes rather than blame a preposterous atrocity narrative and a handful of people who can't defend themselves.

>>17845699
treblinka was a checkpoint on a railroad checking how many people were in its camps. They were supposed to be deported "into russia" but himmler did something else with them

>>17844849 (OP)
Actually the question is how they cremated that many and why no bodies or remains have ever been found.

You should also probably answer how there are survivors, and how the Jewish population never declined.

Truly the most perverse thing about holocaust education is the idea that WWJ happened to stop the holocaust rather than holocaust being the final solution after military failure. It changes the whole moral lesson of the war to be MORE violent next time, this isn't even hidden or controversial. No WWJ figure is more mocked than Chamberlain, for failing to attack Hitler outright.

>>17845496
Truthnuke

>>17845496
@grok Respond to this post with a "your mum" joke

>>17845361
>locking people in a room and then gassing them doesn't make sense
>A bullet is way quicker and cheaper
But also requires men, who don't want to shoot screaming children and sobbing women all day. And who you increasingly need to fight the actual war.

>>17846444
>no bodies or remains have ever been found
Rrrrrrrrrrrrretard

>>17844849 (OP)
>/tv/thread/211919183/
Was this a recent breadtube talking point? Or did you simply not learn you lesson after being BTFO on /tv/ already? GYS filthy heeb.

>>17847100
You lost so hard your grandkids (if you ever have any lol) will wince.

>>17844849 (OP)
>6 gorillion skulls for 6 gorillion people
what's the issue here? it checks out.
>>17845496
this

After all we’ve seen and been thru and you dumbasses still believe the Jews. They liked about human soaps human lamp shades is it really far fetched they lied about gassing? There were no bodies ever found and the only witnesses had there testicles crushed to get a statement. You’re either Jewish or room temp iq. Prob triple vaxxed too SAD


Pic related J00z did this

>>17846444
Don’t forget alll the numbers on there arms never get past 5-6 digits

Trips of truth

Witnessed

>>17844849 (OP)
Most Tutsi's were in fact partisans who did terroristic attacks and false flags in Rwanda. They recruited children and women too. And mind you that partisans wear civilian clothing so it looked like civilians were getting killed but they weren't. There was no genocide of the Tutsis. In fact the opposite was going to happen but the Hutus stopped it. The partisan Tutsis got what they deserved and they need to pay reparations. Every last asset/property of theirs must be seized (this even includes the diaspora populations).

>>17848790
>817k in 4 months
>2.451m a year
>out of a population of 41.5m
that's 5.9% of the population a year what the fuck, it is literally pic related but for Canada

>>17845361
a bullet isn't cheaper when you're killing large numbers. 1 man, 1 bullet adds up fast even before you factor in that soldiers don't really like shooting unarmed civilians for no reason. 1 gas canister per 100+? now that's an economy of scale.

>>17844849 (OP)
Its not that they couldn't have... The evidence for it having happened doesn't exist, not at the scale claimed. "where the bones at" is a funny but pertinent question that exposes the lie.

It is simply exaggerated massively.

Huge numbers of jews, and jews no longer claiming jewish identity, all arrived in new places from the 1930-1950s. Most jews in the USA trace back to then.
(Many were someplace else temporarily during or after the war.)
Most of them of Polish descent, you know where most jews went missing.

The jews with paperwork backgrounds when identity was a printed piece of paper were very capable of generating huge numbers of false identities on demand for immigration purposes.

The evidence points to most jews immigrating elsewhere. With clear evidence of hundreds of thousands murdered, but millions nevermind 6 million highly improbable.

Most deaths were claimed in what became soviet lands which conveniently were hard to investigate during the cold war. Then laws made logical conversation on the topic illegal in most of Europe. So most intelligent career oriented people simply avoided the topic or went with the mandated version rather than career suicide.
After decades multiple generations have only been raised on this. Then jewish hollywood presents things like schindler's list as a documentary children must watch within a few years of starting school.

>>17845508
anon, any people who crossed over into the Congo to escape Hutus came back almost immediately, that "100 day" marker was because the government responsible for the genocide was losing a civil war and lashing out at the ethnic group they were losing it to
The refugees who played a big role in the subsequent Congo wars were Hutu, not Tutsi

>>17844849 (OP)
>A range of X to 1.7X given for genocide that happened in 1994
>Yet for a genocide that happened in the 40s in an even more chaotic time with much less sophisticated record keeping and storage
>even more curious is that the death count was certain within a year two of the event
>6 MILLION NOT ONE MORE OR LESS, PLUS 6 MILLION -1 MILLION GOYIM OF COURSE

Sure thing, kike.

If anything, the measures the Nazis had to go with their killing trying their damndest to remove the humanity and intimacy of the violence shows the humanity of the Germans. They were weak.

Hutu niggas were brutalizing hundreds of thousands Tutsis by hand with machete, yet its somehow the Germans who are uniquely evil for trying to let the jew drift off into the great sleep.

>>17848790
>>17848834
they literally voted for this
it's not like americans or brits or germans where they voted for "conservative" parties that pretended to be anti-immigrant then (inevitably) backstabbed them later
no this is SPECIFICALLY what the canadians voted for
bellum se ipsum alet

>>17849347
source? a million people fled into the congo in 5 days and then came back?

>>17844849 (OP)
>the Rwandan genocide killed somewhere between 500,000 and 800,000 people in 100 days

i don't believe that either desu

>>17849468
They say it was against the tutsi and then say there were hutus being killed too, then it says uh well 800,000 hutus fled into the congo. Okay that's a bit odd that's the exact amount of people said were killed. Then it said the hutu's which fled started launch attacks back into rwanda

they even call the ethnic conflicts pogroms now

>>17848686
>You lost
(You) sure did. End your own life.