Isn't it a bit heretical to have statues and images when God himself said that it is wrong?

Protestant iconoclasts seething

>>17847304
God is seething, God sends idolaters to hell in His anger

>>17847248 (OP)
Well God commanded the Cherubims be built so he probably permits some leeway. Especially if you don't worshi´p it, which catholics don't. Unlike protestants and the bible.

>>17847321
Enjoy hell!

>>17847248 (OP)
No, because it's about becoming a spiritual citizen of the Church of Rome and so Rome sets the tone. It stops being so Roman without that stuff.

>>17847323
Cherubim are anonymous markers for pointing to sacred places. They aren't something that can be petitioned or interacted with. This is different from Catholic or Orthodox theology which uses imagery as integral to participation with other beings.

>>17847248 (OP)
No, the official position of both the Catholic and Orthodox Churches is that images are permitted.
>As the sacred and life-giving cross is everywhere set up as a symbol, so also should the images of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, the holy angels, as well as those of the saints and other pious and holy men be embodied in the manufacture of sacred vessels, tapestries, vestments, etc., and exhibited on the walls of churches, in the homes, and in all conspicuous places, by the roadside and everywhere, to be revered by all who might see them. For the more they are contemplated, the more they move to fervent memory of their prototypes. Therefore, it is proper to accord to them a fervent and reverent veneration, not, however, the veritable adoration which, according to our faith, belongs to the Divine Being alone—for the honor accorded to the image passes over to its prototype, and whoever venerate the image venerate in it the reality of what is there represented.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Council_of_Nicaea

There was also a suppressed Catholic Council of Bishops that came to a different outcome than at Nicaea. Their decision was suppressed by the pope and forgotten until the Protestant Reformation. Protestant leaders like John Calvin read the results of both councils and rejected both.
>Ultimately, the council condemned the Adoptionist heresy and revoked the Nicene Council's decrees regarding holy icons, condemning both iconodulism (veneration of icons) and iconoclasm (destruction of icons), "allowing that images could be useful educational devices, but denying that they were worthy of veneration."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Frankfurt

>>17847248 (OP)
The command forbids *graven images
Icons represent God the same way texts in the bible represents him

Also, icons are actually older than Jesus, as old Hebrews used mezuzahs and phylacteries the same way we use crosses and images of Christ.

>>17847578
Is your bible a picture book?

>>17847594
We have picture books of the bible since Christianity got rich enough

>>17847578
Massive coping

Old testament god did not like statues. Look at orthodox jews even writing g*d's name is not taken lightly

You're just idolaters. You don't even know what the apostles and Jesus and Mary look like

You look up to strange carved abominations with unknown origin

>>17847630
They found images of Moses in synagogue frescos, mate

>>17847642
Nobody bows down and prays to moses mate

>>17847647
You can see God's hands there

>>17847650
Well then they fucked up. It's just hands for a reason

>>17847658
And that reason being that, to them, he has no physical body, yet

>>17847248 (OP)
God never said that, he said don't worship idols. Not all images are idols. Idols are worshiped as the manifestation of a pagan god.

>>17847380
>hey aren't something that can be petitioned or interacted with. This is different from Catholic or Orthodox theology which uses imagery as integral to participation with other beings.

No Catholic or Orthodox believes in petitioning a statue or an image.

>>17847248 (OP)
Read Matthew chapter 6 and if you obeyed it you would not go to church at all and keep your religion to yourself and practice privately in your home so nobody could see you

>>17847891
If you take everything before and after out and look only at the contextless words literally.

>>17847248 (OP)
Yep.
>>17847304
Enjoy Hell.
>>17847323
>God granted an exception, so we can do whatever we want
Enjoy Hell.
>>17847346
>>17847411
>>17847578
>>17847642
Enjoy Hell.