Presidential Ranking Thread - /his/ (#17848699) [Archived: 214 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:27:31 AM No.17848699
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Try keeping it limited to the historical presidents, we know most of the recent ones suck anyway.
https://tiermaker.com/create/presidents-of-the-united-states-updated-2025-16220968
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:35:10 AM No.17848992
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>>17848699 (OP)
FDR and Wilson have no place outside of F tier
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:40:42 PM No.17849263
>>17848992
they were good tho
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:47:50 PM No.17849277
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Why the fuck did you pick such a disgustingly ugly version, OP?
Do you zoomerfags seriously need the names to know who's who?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:57:06 PM No.17850170
>>17849263
literally every one of their policies were bad
>>17849277
>truman that high
>el bj that high
>wilson that high
>fdr that high
fucking Buchanan that high
>Coolidge that low
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:58:14 PM No.17850175
>>17848699 (OP)
woodrow wilson was utter dog shit and he looks like he eats foreskins
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:59:58 PM No.17850182
>>17848699 (OP)
teddy roosevelt was overrated af. b tier at best
Big Bongus !!9zfcclmmPlH
7/17/2025, 9:10:30 PM No.17850203
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>>17848699 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:11:45 PM No.17850206
>>17848992
>Truman and Nixon in F tier
>Eisenhower above both of them

Horrible list
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:23:23 PM No.17850220
>>17850170
>not a single argument
>hurrr Coolidge was... LE GOOD for letting the economy go to shit durrr
I see you Coolidgefag anon.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:37:54 PM No.17850258
>>17850203
teddy and jackson too low
>>17850206
nixon got rid of the gold standard. truman was a commie
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:38:55 PM No.17850262
>>17850220
The depression was under hoover, not coolidge.
All of the 20th century dems were banker pieces of shit who acted to intentionally destroy the US
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Big Bongus !!9zfcclmmPlH
7/17/2025, 9:41:39 PM No.17850267
>>17850258
Jackson in ass because I'm a Calhoun supporter
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:14:55 PM No.17850437
>truman: "yeah bomb le japanese to smithereens heheh"
>also truman: "what? bombimg the communists? you are fired mcarthur!
truman is the worst thing that happened to the US
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:28:25 PM No.17850462
>>17850437
>bombing an enemy everybody wanted gone to end a war
versues
>trying to prevent what was supposed to be a limited war from escalating and opening pandoras box to having nukes be used in any conflict (especially when the Soviets got some by this point) just to appease the retarded plan of a general who was getting his shit kicked in
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:32:27 PM No.17850478
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Made this one some time ago, I'm not redoing it to take out the last 3. This is the correct version, anyway.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:50:02 PM No.17850523
>>17850462
>especially when the Soviets got some by this point
why are pinkos so fucking delusional holy shit
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:57:24 AM No.17850688
>>17850262
>hurrrr it happened under Y, so anything X did to precipitate it doesn't count durrrrr
Coolidge put a bunch of retards in charge of the Fed who let the speculation bubble get completely out of control and ignored Hoover's warnings that it was happening, you mouth-breathing dipshit.
>muh parties tho
Only single-digit IQ faggots view events through which "le party" was in power
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:05:13 AM No.17850710
>>17850523
>you're delusional
>he says when the first successful soviet nuke detonation was in 1949, before the korean war began
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:34:11 AM No.17850770
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>>17848699 (OP)
FDR over Jackson
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:37:59 AM No.17850773
>>17850478
Patrician tier list
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:53:23 AM No.17850798
>>17850478
>Lincoln in bottom tier
>Trump in A tier

Bait.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:36:53 AM No.17850857
>>17849277
Not everyone is American.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:38:31 AM No.17850859
>>17848699 (OP)
How come Clinton is seen as one of the worst presidents?

Besides the sex scandal, was his term really that bad for America?
Replies: >>17850915 >>17851064
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:47:25 AM No.17850867
>>17850857
Kek true. I always forget non-amerisharts know our Presidents the same way we know European monarchs
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:29:58 AM No.17850909
>>17850478
Ike too high, FDR too high, wilson too high >>17850688
coolidge and hoover were the same party, retard, and that whole thing is (((wilson)))'s fault for making the fed
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:31:59 AM No.17850915
>>17850859
so he had a good economy, but he banned guns and has talked about lefty shit after leaving office and the commies don't like him because outside of banning guns his domestic policy that he actually accomplished was right wing, ended welfare, put black drug dealers in jail, banned faggot marriage and increased penalties for illegals
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:32:59 AM No.17850916
>>17850857
GMS!
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:52:42 AM No.17850949
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Most presidents, by definition, are mid
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:15:56 AM No.17850987
>>17850915
Ok so why do anons rank hom as one of the worst presidents for America?

Is it really just because of the sex scandal?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:21:26 AM No.17850994
>>17850949
FDR and wilson too high
>>17850987
because all the right wing anons hate him for the awb and all the left wing commies hate him for banning faggots and neet bux
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:25:40 AM No.17850999
>>17850994
FDR is not in the same tier as Buchanan you're insane if you think the two belong together
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:32:43 AM No.17851003
>>17850999
FDR is below Buchanan
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:52:48 AM No.17851037
>>17851003
Retard take
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:58:38 AM No.17851048
>>17851037
Buchanan didn't conscript anyone into war
Buchanan didn't ban guns
Buchanan didn't burn crops while Americans were starving
Buchanan didn't put Americans into concentration camps
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:06:49 AM No.17851064
>>17850859
The longterm repercussions of the Clinton administration have been overwhelmingly negative, particularly on trade and the general economy (his deregulation and loaning policy was a large contributing factor to the Great Recession). That his term overlapped with the dotcom bubble and subsequent GDP growth shouldn't change the reality of his actual administration.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:57:43 AM No.17851134
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:06:15 AM No.17851239
>>17851134
I'm almost sure these are completely at random considering andrew johnson and the dude who died a month after taking office are both b tier
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:22:45 AM No.17851257
>>17848699 (OP)
>>17848992
>>17850203
>>17850949
>Polk in S
Based
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:30:13 AM No.17851262
>>17851239
Andrew Johnson was a fairly good president, to be fair. Definitely more B to C than D to F tier.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:07:34 AM No.17851454
>17850909
>coolidge and hoover were the same party
0/10 bait harder
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:21:12 PM No.17852399
>>17851454
They were both republicans. Cleveland and Wilson were the only dems elected between 1860 and 1932
>>17851262
no he wasn't. he's universally hated
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:14:54 PM No.17852724
>>17848699 (OP)
Lincoln is an easy and obvious F tier. Radically changed the nation for the worst in every conceivable way, and I'm not referring to abolishing slavery, though that was also handled poorly.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:41:38 PM No.17852814
>>17849277
Wasn't clinton the last president to balance the budget
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:53:23 PM No.17852853
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โ€˜ate banks, simple as
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:00:22 PM No.17852868
>>17852814
that didn't have anything to do with his policies. in 1993 he banned AR-15s and as a result the republicans took control of the house and senate ending a nearly uninterrupted democrat majority that began in 1932. Newt Gingrich and Republicans had campaigned on cutting the budget so that combined with the dot com boom made it so we had a balanced budget. to clinton's credit he didn't really fight with congress and therefore governed like a moderate
>>17852853
teddy too low
fdr and wilson too high
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:37:15 PM No.17852962
honest ape
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>>17850798
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:48:42 PM No.17852991
>>17852814
Clinton should be at the bottom of any tier list for two reasons

1. He was the first neoliberal centrist Democrat president. Making his party full blown puppets of wealthy donor class oligarchs and controlled opposition to the Republicans.
2. He's a pedophile rapist.
Replies: >>17852998
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:50:58 PM No.17852998
>>17852991
>He's a pedophile rapist.
Cool! Do you have any evidence for this accusation, or are you just railing and committing slander?
Replies: >>17853003 >>17853023
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:53:35 PM No.17853003
Epstein's Clinton paitning
Epstein's Clinton paitning
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>>17852998
How out of the loop are you?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:55:50 PM No.17853013
>>17853003
Okay, so no evidence. Got it. The Bible says rapists should be put to death. It also says that if you accuse someone of a capital crime and are found to be lying, then you receive the punishment. Therefore, you deserve the death penalty. Rat.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:00:31 AM No.17853021
>>17853013
Nigga I posted the painting. Do I really need spoon feed you some old ass news? Are you really that out of the loop when it comes to American politics? Or are you a partisan cheer leader in denial? Or are you just a schizo who doesn't even know what he's saying? Literally look it up faggot. Google it.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:00:46 AM No.17853023
>>17852998
he raped his intern and epstine had a painting of him in a dress
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:01:47 AM No.17853026
>>17853021
he isn't American so he has to suck democrat cock
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:02:06 AM No.17853027
>>17853021
>>17853023
I hope you are sued and bankrupted for life.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:04:25 AM No.17853034
>>17853027
You can't sue people for saying things that are true.
Replies: >>17853036
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:05:37 AM No.17853036
>>17853034
Sorry, I'm not interested in anything you have to say. You are a proven liar.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:12:34 AM No.17853054
>>17853027
sued for what? stating the objective fact that he coerced his intern into giving him oral sex and epstine had a painting of him in a dress?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:13:42 AM No.17853058
>>17853054
Yeah, that's not going to hold up in court when you're forced to answer a line of questioning. You're so fucked. :)
Replies: >>17853120
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:25:26 AM No.17853094
>>17848699 (OP)
The /his/ rating of each president series was the last time this board was good and even then those threads got shat up by /pol/fags sperging out about their boogeymen presidents (Lincoln, FDR and LBJ).
Replies: >>17853106 >>17853145 >>17853155
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:29:32 AM No.17853106
>>17853094
If you're so above it, if you're so smart, please demonstrate. Defend LBJ. Go ahead, m'Lord. We are waiting.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:36:17 AM No.17853120
>>17853058
you can't be sued for libel over shit that's factually true in the US. that's a bongland thing
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:40:49 AM No.17853134
>>17853120
>Did you call Bill Clinton a rapist
>M-m-monica!!!
Not going to fly. Tick tock. :)
Replies: >>17853194
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:44:41 AM No.17853145
>>17853094
Based oldfag who remembers that. That one spammer who kept copying his threads was such a schizo
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:47:42 AM No.17853155
>>17853094
You have to have brain worms to rank Lincoln and FDR low.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:49:52 AM No.17853164
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>>17848699 (OP)
LBJ and Nixon were some of the hardest for me because they did some good stuff but their negatives vastly overshadow all of it. My F-tier is basically presidents who were either supremely incompetent or did irreprable damage to the country through their actions. Hoover, I believe, set up a lot of things late in his term that FDR would end up using and expanding on to help bring the country out of the Depression so he avoids F.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:54:46 AM No.17853180
>>17853164
You're a complete loser.
Replies: >>17853215
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:00:11 AM No.17853194
>>17853134
>fucking the intern in the mouth isn't rape
lmao
>>17853155
FDR was an all time shit president
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:01:11 AM No.17853199
>>17853164
FDR put Americans in concentration camps and intentionally made the great depression worse
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:01:29 AM No.17853201
>>17853194
>lmao
That's what I thought. You're worthless.
Replies: >>17853237
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:06:52 AM No.17853215
>>17853180
Care to extrapolate?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:07:56 AM No.17853217
>>17853199
>intentionally made the great depression worse
How? By bringing America out of it?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:09:56 AM No.17853225
>>17853215
>Care to extrapolate?
Sure. You clearly googled "top presidents" and copy/pasted the list into your tiermaker, or lifted the image from someone who did the same. Ready to own up to your low social status?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:13:25 AM No.17853237
>>17853201
you are a gay retard who wears women's clothing
>>17853217
he didn't. he burned crops when people were starving. the US only came out of the depression as a result of WWII starting
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:20:02 AM No.17853259
>>17853237
Yeah, who was president when WWII started? Who ever it was should get credit for getting the US out of the depression. I bet they were so well liked they got reelected like 3 times.

Joking aside, you've got a CinemaSins nip picking style when it comes to judging presidency. Just cherry picking so you can work backwards from a conclusion. No president was perfect.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:22:51 AM No.17853266
>>17853259
Putting Americans in literal concentration camps at gun point based on race is pretty bad, retard
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:27:29 AM No.17853277
>>17853266
It is. He must have been a damn good president to receive a high rating despite that.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:45:38 AM No.17853320
>>17853277
he wasn't. he was literally the all time worst president but dems worship him because he's was a communist
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:48:40 AM No.17853329
>>17852399
And your point is...?
Replies: >>17853331
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:49:24 AM No.17853331
>>17853329
to which?
Replies: >>17853392
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:12:37 AM No.17853392
>>17853331
That Coolidge and Hoover were both Republicans, retard
You're also wrong about Johnson but that's beside the point
Replies: >>17853402
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:17:11 AM No.17853402
>>17853392
Coolidge and Hoover were both republicans, you were bating and saying I was being partisan. also Johnson was never elected president
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:50:28 AM No.17853463
>>17853225
You're a /pol/fag mad I have FDR and Lincoln at the top lmao

If I just copy/pasted I wouldn't have faggots like Reagan, Wilson and Truman at the very bottom, Madison above Jefferson, Ford ranked highly and I'd be sucking off Polk.
Replies: >>17853467 >>17853495
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:51:51 AM No.17853467
>>17853463
>lmao
Thank you for making it easy to dismiss everything you said.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:52:02 AM No.17853469
>>17852399
>he's universally hated
Learn what universal means. The only people who hate him were retarded radical republicans and their modern day black obsessed pop historian followers.
Replies: >>17853495 >>17853503
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:56:32 AM No.17853481
>>17853164
How did Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Wilson or Carter do irreparable damage to the country?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:04:18 AM No.17853495
>>17853463
FDR is the all time worst president, fag boi
>>17853469
I've literally never heard a single human praise 1 term unelected president andrew johnson
Replies: >>17853500
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:06:28 AM No.17853499
>>17853481
wilson made the fed, greatly expanded the executive, created what was really the first ever draft (something like 2% of union soldiers were conscripts, like 70% of the AEF were conscripts), caused the great depression, changed the law around the national guard to intentionally sidestep the constitution and jailed people for free speech and avoiding the draft
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:06:36 AM No.17853500
>>17853495
Abraham Lincoln did. William Seward did. Those are pretty significant humans.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:06:46 AM No.17853503
>>17853469
You're retarded and historically illiterate. Your knowledge of the topic doesn't even rise to the level of wikipedia.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:08:51 AM No.17853510
>>17853503
Try making an actual argument instead of cry seething next time, pussy.
Replies: >>17853546
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:11:08 AM No.17853518
>>17853500
Johnson wasn't president until Lincoln died and no one cares about William Seward
Johnson got impeached, he was super unpopular
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:17:06 AM No.17853535
>>17853499
>wilson made the fed
And? The Fed didn't do irreparable damage to the country. If one long term conclusion can be drawn from it, it's that it's lowered how frequently we've dealt with recessions and better equipped us to mitigate inflationary cycles.
>caused the great depression
This is laughably false. No single president is responsible for the Great Depression, but it's objectively much more Harding/Coolidge for the inaction against the bubble which led to the market crash and Hoover for making it far worse with Smoot-Hawley.
>>17853499
>created what was really the first ever draft (something like 2% of union soldiers were conscripts, like 70% of the AEF were conscripts),
>changed the law around the national guard to intentionally sidestep the constitution and jailed people for free speech and avoiding the draft
These are quite literally things all major war time presidents did. If having a draft and jailing people wrongly make you F, then you'd have to move Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, LBJ, etc there as well.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:18:40 AM No.17853541
>>17853481
>Harrison
One of the couple where I felt it a bit unfair to actually rank them but Garfield at least did something while alive (driving Conkling out of politics and completely killing the Stalwarts as a political entity) and his death led to civil service reform. Taylor admitted California as a state, bitch slapped Texas when they got uppity over New Mexico and generally sided with the anti-slavery types. Harrison obviously did nothing so consider his F placement more an "unrankable" one.

>Jackson
Megalomaniacal asshole whose retarded economic views completely ruined the economy until the 1850s thanks to California/the gold rush.

>Wilson
Pompous, arrogant wannabe tyrant who completely shit all over civil liberties by jailing people who criticized his decision to enter World War I. Deeply racist. Wanted us to be the world police but couldn't actually get Congress to approve US entry into the League of Nations (his own idea) leaving it toothless and making World War II an inevitability. Only thing good he did was the Federal Reserve because free banking showed repeatedly throughout the 19th century that it didn't work.

>Carter
He was a good man who was utterly unprepared to do the job of president and whose bungling incompetence allowed Reagan, the cause of all of our modern troubles, to swoop in and enact his (or rather his wealthy/Heritage Foundation backers') plan to utterly destroy the country.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:21:26 AM No.17853546
>>17853510
Right right, but like I was saying: You're braindead.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:24:31 AM No.17853552
>>17853535
>And? The Fed didn't do irreparable damage to the country.
the fed caused the great depression and is currently intentionally causing the inflation issues we just went through so the rich could become richer while fucking over everyone else
>This is laughably false.
it's true. the fed intentionally caused the great depression so they could make the rich richer
>This is laughably false.
we've only ever had a draft for 5 wars, the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam. There was no draft before that
>Lincoln, FDR, LBJ, etc there as well.
yup, they belong there
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:26:54 AM No.17853563
>>17853541
>the cause of all of our modern troubles
the cause of all the modern trouble was Wilson creating the fed and expanding the executive, FDR expanding the executive and the new deal, Earl Warren, El BJ for creating the welfare state and Nixon for taking us off the gold standard.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:28:48 AM No.17853566
>>17853518
>Johnson wasn't president until Lincoln died
Irrelevant. Lincoln specifically chose Johnson to be his Vice President due to how much he respected him.
>and no one cares about William Seward
He was both Lincoln's and Johnson's closest cabinet official.
>Johnson got impeached
By partisan radical republicans with a supermajority. He didn't actually do anything impeachable.
>he was super unpopular
Among the political establishment, not general public. He would have likely done better in 1868 than Seymour.
>>17853546
And as I was saying: you're a pussy without an argument. Just a massive waste of everybody's time.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:31:11 AM No.17853574
>>17853566
>Irrelevant. Lincoln specifically chose Johnson to be his Vice President due to how much he respected him.
has literally jack and shit to do with how well he acted as president
>He was both Lincoln's and Johnson's closest cabinet official.
and?
>By partisan radical republicans with a supermajority. He didn't actually do anything impeachable.
he tried to cause a second civil war, he was shit
>Among the political establishment, not general public. He would have likely done better in 1868 than Seymour.
then why didn't he get reelected? or ever elected. he never won a presidential election
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:57:39 AM No.17853619
>>17853402
>they were both Republicans
What does that have to do with Coolidge causing the Depression through his retarded Fed appointees?
>Johnson wasn't elected
You're unbelievably retarded
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:18:25 AM No.17853648
>>17853619
>What does that have to do with Coolidge causing the Depression through his retarded Fed appointees?
Wilson caused the depression by creating the fed, retard
>you're
Andrew Johnson was never elected president, he never won a presidential election. he was elected vice president on Lincoln's ticket
Johnson, along with Tyler, Fillmore and Arthur are the only men to become president while never wining a presidential election and Ford who never won a presidential or vice presidential election.
you are a gay retard
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:23:17 AM No.17853654
>>17853563
I honestly don't know how people who get their entire worldview from Freep function in day to day life.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:41:46 AM No.17853671
>>17853654
>no muh fiat currency manipulated by unelected bankers good
fuck off. this is why compensation doesn't reflect productivity you queer
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:47:37 AM No.17853676
>>17853671
>free banking and lack of a central bank leads to constant economic instability, currency confusion, bank failures, economic recessions and financial panics
>economy much more stable after the creation of the Fed
>Fed bad because, uh, fiatruthrebel69 on Free Republic said so
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:56:01 AM No.17853681
>>17853676
we didn't have fucking generational inflation every 30 years under the gold standard
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:01:07 AM No.17853688
>>17853681
Right, we just had wild economic swings because it wasn't actually as stable as gold grifters want you to think. That's the entire reason we were moved off of it BullPrepper420.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:06:54 AM No.17853693
>>17853688
>no this current fiat system that has just transferred trillions in wealth from the middle class to bezos and musk is totally a good system
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:19:13 AM No.17853707
>>17853574
>has literally jack and shit to do with how well he acted as president
You said nobody praised him, you didn't specify as president. But again, even if that was your implication, Seward did.
>and?
Dismissing the top cabinet official of the Lincoln/Johnson administrations and the person who knew Johnson best other than his closest friends and family doesn't make any sense.
>he tried to cause a second civil war, he was shit
No he didn't, retard. His entire tenure was trying to reign in the radicals who were.
>then why didn't he get reelected? or ever elected. he never won a presidential election
Democratic party politics. A lot of Democratic leadership didn't respect him for how pro-Union he was. Bernie Sanders was far and away more popular than Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, yet he was never allowed to be the nominee for the same reasons.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:20:22 AM No.17853709
>>17853681
>There wasn't inflation before we got off the gold standurd!
Holy shit
People actually believe this
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:21:31 AM No.17853712
>>17853541
I personally like Carter. But I'm from Georgia, so I have a bias.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:24:33 AM No.17853719
>>17853648
NTA, but the Fed didn't create the Great Depression and every presidential ticket since Tyler has been created with the explicit knowledge that the VP will takeover in the event of the president's death. And we're talking about Lincoln here, a guy who deliberately chose Johnson and constantly had premonitions of dying. Holding something like that against Johnson or Arthur or any of them is retarded.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:27:50 AM No.17853722
>>17853707
>You said nobody praised him, you didn't specify as president.
are you ESL or just retarded? this is a fucking presidential ranking thread, what else would anyone mean?
>Dismissing the top cabinet official of the Lincoln/Johnson administrations and the person who knew Johnson best other than his closest friends and family doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure Buchanan's buddy say's he's a good president too. Carter and reagan's buddies say the same as well
>No he didn't,
yes he did, retard. that's why he wasn't reelected
>Democratic party politics. A lot of Democratic leadership didn't respect him for how pro-Union he was. Bernie Sanders was far and away more popular than Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, yet he was never allowed to be the nominee for the same reasons.
sanders is a communist who hates the US. he would never win a general election, retardo
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:29:29 AM No.17853723
>>17853709
we didn't. the dollar was way more stable before the 1970s, retard
>>17853719
johnson was never elected president and was only picked because he was from the south. the fed caused the great depression just like they caused the 2008 housing crisis and they intentionally caused the recent inflation crisis. all of it was to get their banker friends richer
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:46:12 AM No.17853748
>>17853722
>are you ESL or just retarded
Non-point, because again, Seward did.
>I'm sure Buchanan's buddy say's he's a good president too. Carter and reagan's buddies say the same as well
Seward is widely regarded as one of our greatest Secretaries of State (including for his work in the Johnson admin) and non-presidential statesmen. He obviously carries more weight than "Buchanan's buddy."
>yes he did, retard. that's why he wasn't reelected
No he didn't, retard. He was denied nomination because he pissed off both the Republicans and Democrats for doing what was right.
>sanders is a communist who hates the US. he would never win a general election, retardo
He's not a communist and his personal popularity is higher than Drumpf and all of his Democratic presidential rivals. Again, the reason he wasn't the Democratic nominee is because he wasn't friendly with the Democratic establishment, similar to Johnson.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2016/5/15/polls-sanders-has-more-potential-to-beat-trump
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-poll-election-2020-biden-bloomberg-1483423
>>17853723
>johnson was never elected president
He was elected Vice President with explicit knowledge he'd take over from Lincoln in the event of an untimely death.
>and was only picked because he was from the south
Wrong. Lincoln could have kept Hamlin. He didn't need to pick a Democrat and he didn't do it just because he was from the South, he did it because Johnson's Unionism and ideas for reconstruction mirrored Lincoln's.
>the fed caused the great depression
Bad economic policy from Coolidge administration contributed to the stock bubble and collapse, but that was not only the Fed, but the Treasury. What turned the recession into the Depression was Smoot-Hawley, an act of Congress.
>just like they caused the 2008 housing crisis and they intentionally caused the recent inflation crisis
That was also Presidential/Congressional policy.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:54:06 AM No.17853756
>>17853748
>, because again, Seward did.
wow. the dudes buddy said he did an ok job
you are a fucking retarded
>He's not a communist and his personal popularity is higher than Drumpf
he is a communist and he wants to ban guns and kill or enslave all nonjewish white people. and you literally sourced the fucking quatari government state media, you actual retard
>He was elected Vice President
that's not elected president, retard
>He didn't need to pick a Democrat
he literally picked johnson because he was a democrat from the south. johnson was a shitty president and was never elected president
>Bad economic policy
it was caused by the fed, intentionally, to make their banking buddies richer
>That was also Presidential/Congressional policy.
it was the fed. a group of unelected bankers no one voted for who only care about other bankers
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:32:04 AM No.17853789
prestierlist2025
prestierlist2025
md5: df6986d7089c7f610aa9b626f788e2bd๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:38:00 AM No.17853801
prestierlist2025
prestierlist2025
md5: 7b404ccd8e22fafbe062443075e877c9๐Ÿ”
I'm left-wing but also weird and crankish which leads me to things like "Benjamin Harrison top 10" and "Bush I best president of the last 50 years"
Replies: >>17853937 >>17853975 >>17855186
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:04:03 AM No.17853937
>>17853801
FDR, LBJ and wilson too fucking high
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:23:52 AM No.17853971
>>17849277
>Coolidge at bot tier

spotted the retard who buys into the commie propaganda.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:26:30 AM No.17853975
>>17853801
>I'm left-wing
JFK, LBJ, Eisenhower, Roosevelt and Taft killed and sought regime change against lots of leftists for the simple crime of not being American puppets. Certainly these are worse people from a genuine leftist perspective than say Madison, Arthur, Tyler or Coolidge
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:14:13 AM No.17854055
>>17853756
>wow. the dudes buddy said he did an ok job
He wasn't just his buddy, he was the most influential and successful cabinet official of the 1860s. Further, if you want a more objective analysis, Johnson was not considered a bad president until recently. In the first presidential ranking survey of historians, he's ranked as an average president.
>he is a communist and he wants to ban guns and kill or enslave all nonjewish white people. and you literally sourced the fucking quatari government state media, you actual retard
You're literally retarded. It's a wonder how you even operate whatever device you're typing this drivel on.
>that's not elected president, retard
Nobody said it was, moron. But he was on the ticket that people voted for, knowing that he'd assume Lincoln if anything were to happen.
>he literally picked johnson because he was a democrat from the south. johnson was a shitty president and was never elected president
He picked Johnson because he was impressed by his staunch Unionism, leadership in Tennessee and that they agreed on reconstruction. He was under no obligation to abandon Hamlin and Johnson wasn't picked to fill an arbitrary quota.
>it was caused by the fed, intentionally, to make their banking buddies richer
The stock market crashing didn't make the rich richer, retard.
>it was the fed. a group of unelected bankers no one voted for who only care about other bankers
No, this was congressional and presidential policy. Chiefly Clinton's deregulation and loaning policies and Drumpf's CARES Act.
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Simon Salva - Apostle to the 4channers !tMhYkwTORI
7/19/2025, 9:14:53 AM No.17854058
>>17848699 (OP)

Christians go in S, non-Christians go in F. Easy.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:46:54 AM No.17854192
>>17853541
>completely ruined the economy until the 1850s
The 1837 recession lasted until Tyler's presidency. Of course some of it can be attributed to Jackson, but certainly not all of it, and in any event, that's not irreparable. Jackson also had a vast array of accomplishments.
>arrogant wannabe tyrant who completely shit all over civil liberties by jailing people who criticized his decision to enter World War I
May I remind you that you have Lincoln and FDR in S tier?
>Deeply racist
Less so than S-A tier Washington, Madison, Monroe and Teddy Roosevelt.
>Wanted us to be the world police
He didn't want us to be the world police. That started during the Cold War. He wanted the world to be its own police.
>leaving it toothless and making World War II an inevitability
What caused WW2 was America not joining the League of Nations and the maximalist approach against Germany by the Allied European powers, both things Wilson was against.
>whose bungling incompetence
What do you mean exactly?
>allowed Reagan
The only presidents you can truly blame for their successors are the ones who died while in office, and even then, a lot of tickets were created by the party rather than the presidential nominee.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:16:01 PM No.17854422
>>17853648
Holy fuck are you ever retarded

>17853971
>implying Coolidge is even relevent enough to warrant """propaganda"""
0/10
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:35:55 PM No.17855089
>>17854058
They were all Christians except for Jefferson. Historians are unsure about Lincoln though.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:46:23 PM No.17855119
>>17854058
Who was the last genuinely religious president? Carter?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:55:37 PM No.17855151
>>17849277
>jefferson
>territorial expansion through questionable means
Nothing questionable about the Louisiana Purchase.
Unless you're an avowed Jeffersonian who thinks if it ain't in the Constitution it ain't allowed.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:06:42 PM No.17855186
>>17853801
Best one if only for actually giving a shit about the 25 year rule.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:47:19 PM No.17855433
>>17855151
>implying it was France's to sell
Disphit
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:07:16 PM No.17855494
>>17855433
If it wasn't theirs, then whose was it?
It was, retard. The Discovery Doctrine lays this out.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:14:49 AM No.17856108
>>17854192
>What caused WW2 was America not joining the League of Nations and the maximalist approach against Germany by the Allied European powers, both things Wilson was against.
The League was Wilson's own idea and he denied Japan's racial equality clause (i.e. treat us like the Great Power we actually are; fuck all the other non-whites though) because he was a.) a racist and b.) didn't want to piss off southern Democrats. It didn't work leaving the League worthless AND pissing off the Japs against the US which made them more amenable to joining the Axis.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:29:11 AM No.17856253
>>17850478
why do you need Trump as bait in /his/?
just put him where he belongs, ffs
Replies: >>17856405
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 5:03:04 AM No.17856405
>>17856253
It's not bait. You're just retarded.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:37:23 AM No.17856640
>>17854055
>He wasn't just his buddy
it was his buddy, you gay retard
>You're literally
nah, that's you. sanders fucking hates white people, Americans and guns. he wants all nonjewish whites dead or in chains. he's a piece of shit
>Nobody said it was
you are literally trying to argue it
>He picked Johnson
he picked johnson to balance the ticket with a democrat from the south
>The stock market crashing didn't make the rich richer,
it did and it does every time, you gay retard
>No, this was congressional and presidential policy
it was the fed
> Chiefly Clinton
it was clinton's fault too
>and Drumpf
nope, you are thinking of brandon, retardo
you clearly are a nonAmerican zoomer
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:38:24 AM No.17856645
>>17854422
no, that's you, you gay shit eating communist faggot
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:39:24 AM No.17856648
>>17855433
who gives, a shit, faggot?
>>17849277
terrirorial expansion is based, queer
,
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 10:17:47 AM No.17856960
>>17856108
>The League was Wilson's own idea
No shit, retard.
>and he denied Japan's racial equality clause (i.e. treat us like the Great Power we actually are; fuck all the other non-whites though) because he was a.) a racist and b.) didn't want to piss off southern Democrats. It didn't work leaving the League worthless
What left the League worthless was Republicans not allowing us to join. Not denying Japan's stupid amendment, moron.
>AND pissing off the Japs against the US which made them more amenable to joining the Axis
Again, there would be no Axis if America was part of the League and Germany knew attacking Poland would result in war with us and every League member.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 10:36:42 AM No.17856992
my-image
my-image
md5: 980d1073e4ddf6340c538c22b287912a๐Ÿ”
My picks
I left out ones include had low information on and stopped after Clinton
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:16:39 AM No.17857038
>>17856992
I meant to say: I left ones i had low information on and stopped at Clinton. Dammit I hate autocorrect.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:39:42 PM No.17857943
>>17849277
shocking as it may be to you, people here have consistently shown to care more about their policies, legacies they leave behind or perpetuate, their ideology, hell even their early life section than their own name
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:41:10 PM No.17857945
>>17857943
The fuck are you trying to say?
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:46:34 PM No.17857958
>>17848992
>Coolidge
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:57:16 PM No.17857973
>>17850688
>my reading comprehension sucks
political party isn't and doesn't have to be a prerequisite for being a global banking jew as they entrench said parties with global banking jews anyhow
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:13:24 PM No.17858002
>>17857973
>DA JOOOOOOOZ
Take your meds retard
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:16:08 PM No.17858285
>>17858002
shalom