We got back to Serednii Stih being PIA. What was the point of the CLV meme when Anatolians had Serednii Stih Y dna? I feel like we need a new study to see if any autosomal dna fits can be made with Serednii Stih. If so, then everything is simplified. IE is just a steppe language with anatolian being an early off shoot of it.

>>17848783 (OP)
Also, I know a BP group sample had DDP ydna, but is it much more prevalent in SS

>>17848783 (OP)
>>17848783 (OP)
SS is a dead end
Besides, Sredny Stog is a bit too simple to be the "PIA" (if that makes sense), since the theory says they were the ancestors of the Yamnaya and the CWC, but unfortunately for the people who started this, Yamnaya has not yet been ruled out as being the ancestor of the CWC.

>>17848783 (OP)
>Anatolia
Are we still at this? There were many migrations along the Black Sea coastal region, starting in Suvorovo (before 4000 BC), and perhaps Suvorovo is linked to the Proto-Hittites.
Regarding the "Sredny Stog" haplogroup, it's interesting to read this in the article
>Malo1, Grave 5: R1ba1b2a2b1
>Malo2, Grave 14: R1b1a1b1b
Proto-Anatolians came from the Balkans, and these samples fit as a good candidate because there were kurgans found in Galatasary, dating from approximately the same time.
Feel free to think about which steppe could be the source.

>>17848812
So we don't know what the source of the steppe is in Anatolia, and our god among men, Lazaridis (may haploautism be with him) is correct about the PIA being so old that it exceeds any PIEs by millennia. Yamnaya is too old to be it, which was at most 3200 BC. Sredny Stog is contemporary and in some cases, younger. We don't know

>>17848818
>Yamnaya is too old to be
Too young*

>>17848818
Check-out your chronology

>>17848832
This map looks horribly poorly done and are the dates consistent? Where did you base it?

>>17848818
>lazaridis
Yeah

>>17848783 (OP)
Too Arap. Yamnaya wuz supermodels.

I1/I2 "men" = cucked and forgotten.

WHG = the conquered dark-skinned Shudras of Europe

Because Serednii Stih is a later population. The original inhabitants of this region were Dnieper Donets HGs. Most of SS ancestry is from the East of Ukraine, from a population resembling CLV groups.

>>17848812
They are literally just Yamnaya. Also, it's that study with a retarded model where steppe-like is everything from Yamnaya to Corded Ware.

I think you might be the guy that posted it before and deliberately lied about the findings.

You write about Suvorovo and Sredny Stog, but the samples you posted Grave 5 and Grave 14 are dated to 28th/27th century BC. That's Yamnaya.

MalGr19 is older and a female and it's clearly mixed with farmers, but due to their dumb model it's not visible here.

Yamnigs looked like supermodels, didn't they?