They really thought they could get away with this. Anglos really have some gaul trying to pull shit like this. I bet they wanted to toss in some opium too.

They should have just given Constantinople and Rumelia to Greece and let everything else in Turkish hands

>>17849007 (OP)
They succeed to do it to Arabs but they forget Turks and Persians (they currently trying to do the same to Iran) are different

>>17849007 (OP)
same thing with treaty of versailles
anglos and frogs must have learned their lesson by now

>>17849007 (OP)
It really is extremely funny how they went for all of Anatolia just for the fun of it

>>17849058
lolz so funny :)

>>17849016
>Give a city with more Turks in it than there are greeks in all of Greece to Greece, thus making Greece a Turk majority nation.
I swear you byzaboos get dumber every day.

>>17849080
>p-p-please don't forget the 6 million Christians killed in the Ottocaust
Too busy laffin!

>>17849007 (OP)
They could've gotten away with it without Atatürk. The Ottoman Empire after WW1 was in no position to resist Western imperialism. Turkey getting occupied by Western powers was a very real possibility.

>>17849007 (OP)
>tfw you will never be an Italian colonial overlord fucking a teenage Turkish qt in her mouth every morning while her father serves you apple tea in your villa in south Anatolia
Why even live, bros?

>>17849092
>tfw you missed your chance to be a local bureaucrat who gets to fuck all the exotic native little girls you want
Someone get me my time machine

>>17849092
>tfw you will never be a Turkish colonial overlord fucking an Italian qt in her mouth every morning while her father serves you apple tea in your villa in south Italy
Why even live, bros?

Why are anglos so evil?

>>17849109
Because it's funny

>>17849007 (OP)
If the Russian Empire didn't collapse they'd be able to enforce it, demobilise everything other than Caucasus front after the Germans tap put and hand over what's their due and keep pressuring Turks, that's where they would get away with it. For the French, English and Italians exerting pressure required expensive landing operations and overseas logistics while the Russians were preparing for operations in the theatre since 1878(which is why, considering Turkish front being 2nd-rate for the Russians and the geography wasn't suited for any kind of fighting, Russians were generally winning there).

>>17849092
>>17849102
>>17849108
All based aside the "teenage" stuff. Leave my board you fucking pedoes

>>17849086
what "turks", they are just muslim greeks

>>17849007 (OP)
>They really thought they could get away with this
They've been buckbreaking Turks for three centuries straight.

>>17849092
>Italian
>Turk
>"her"

>>17849086
>demographics 100 years ago where the same they are today.

>>17849080
That population shift happened in 1920-1921 during the greek-turkish population exchange.

So by 1918 the top pic is still the relevant one. The anon is correct, western Turkey could have been ceded to Greece (i.e historically Greek world).
The allies didn't because this would have turned Greece into a major power on a flip of a switch.

my favourite part about the greco turkish war is how greeks freaked the fuck out and said fuck it we want the entire western half of turkey, invaded, got too greedy, lost the war, were so mad about losing they went scorched earth and destroyed every place they conquered and then cried to the british media how evil turks genocided them and burned down everything.

>>17849715
Anatolia was a shithole, it would have been a colonial burden for many years.
As for Constantinople, why giving the bosporus to the Greeks was a big deal but giving it to the Turks wasnt makes no sense to me.

>>17849727
They didn't "give" the bosphorus to the turks, the turks took it. The original plan was to make Constantinople and the bosphorus area an internationally governed zone.
The turks chimped out at the treaty of Severes, and started the Turkish revolution to win it all back.

>>17849086
>City with 800,000 people has more population than a country of 5.5 million
Turkey's population exploded in the 20th century, after WWI there was roughly 1 Greek for every 2 Turks instead of 1 Greek per 8 Turks today.

>>17849086
You lose a war, you lose land.
Populations can always be moved around, as seen at the end of WW2

>>17849769
>You lose a war, you lose land
If only Palestinians got the message

>>17849399
Absolutely not retard
This is one of the biggest misconceptions
Turks are anatolians, not greeks
And they have like 15 to 20 % turkic dna

I really hope op is not non-turkish.

>>17849007 (OP)
What sort of fake and gay ethnic identities would the inhabitants of those regions have had if those borders managed to persist today?

>>17849961
The LARPING would go insane. Everyone on one side of the line would be pure white while the rest are Congolese black

>>17850000
I imagine it would be Syria-Lebanon-Israel-Palestine tier mess except it would be bloodier because Greeks and Armenians are not as smart as Jews and Turks are not as helpless as Arabs

>>17850000

>>17849092
Italians stupidly decided to abandon their zone and support Kemal out of spite for Greece and for an alliance with Turkey that never even happened.

>>17849007 (OP)
VGH, HOVV PERFECT
VVHAT COVLD HAVE BEEN...

>>17849399
>Completely different language
>Genetically further apart than French and Russians (except a few small regions)
>Very different history and ethnogenesis
>Different (how much is debatable) culture
But yeah, religion is the only difference

>>17849779
Have you tried arranging an actual peace treaty where you specify which lands you want to take from them?

>>17849007 (OP)
>Anglos
Rent free
>>17849086
>Greeks made up almost 30% of the city's population, while accounting for 43% of the population in the suburbs.[37] As the city was also home to significant Armenian, Catholic and Jewish minorities, there were more non-Muslims than Muslims in Istanbul, with Muslims making up 44% of the city's population in 1893.[37] The Greek community also dominated the city's economy, owning 50% of the city's total production and distribution capital in 1915.[38] In 1919, of the city's 1,173,670 inhabitants, 364,459 were Greek (31%) and 449,114 were Turk (38%).[39][40] Because of considerable presence of other non-Muslim ethnic groups like Armenians (17%), Bulgarians (3%) and the Jews (4%) at the time, Muslims were a minority in the city.[32][41]

>>17849007 (OP)
what did the ottomans even do to deserve getting split worse than Hungary and Germany?

>>17850425
wtf I thought the Ottomans were evil Jihadis who murdered and forcibly converted Christians?????

>>17849319
Age of consent is 16. Seethe more. Also, I don't personally consider easterners to be human anyway.

>>17851265
if they're not human then sex with them is bestiality you sick fuck

>>17849007 (OP)
VGH
What could have been.....

>>17849871
>Are anatolia
So Greeks

>>17849871
>Turks are anatolians, not greeks
Turk nationalist cope, Greeks colonized and settled Anatolia and themselves had BA Anatolian admixture. Western Turks are Byzantine Era Anatolian Greeks mutted with 30% Central Asian blood. Eastern ones are Turkified Armenians and Laz people larping.

>>17851413
More like akin to me fucking a caveman, but whatever.

>>17850698
It's financially convenient if not everyone becomes a Muslim, as non-Muslims pay an extra tax (jizya).
But of course, they had to ensure that every weapon-wielder was a Muslim to prevent neo-Byzantine uprisings

>>17849086
At the time that was not the case. Turkey and Greece had comparable populations