Sorry breeders, but you are BTFO.

>>17849406 (OP)
>happiness and pleasure
>provisional
Bliss is eternal.

>pleasure is but an illusion
Correct. You would be stupid to focus on pleasure.

>True love is only possible between two people whose characters are perfectly similar
I'm sorry you had that experience. There are studies done on this and character similarit ain't it.

>Morality creates no happiness
It creates meaning and hence happiness by your own admission.


Lastly, let me point out these have almost nothing to do with anti-natalism besides giving off the same emo-is-scienctific vibe.

>>17849414
> There are studies done on this
There are studies on this, legit works like that but only if both peeps have chill personalities — nutjobs, psychopaths, etc. don’t count, ofc.

>>17849423
Yes, we're talking about sane people. It is true that of the best predictors is similarity in values and emotional attunement, but that is a far cry from "perfectly similar characters".

Why don't antinatalists just kill themselves then? Oh wait, because they enjoy living. They just want to watch Rick and Morty until they're 90.

>>17849406 (OP)
I rememeber my girlfriend used to be an antinatalist. Then after a prolonged period of waiting, we started having sex regularly and she dropped it.
In short, have sex incel.

>>17849406 (OP)
How about no one gives a shit about your opinion, intersubjective reality is a thing and if we decide you are a faggot then (you) are faggot.

>>17849406 (OP)
Dear antinatalists,

If Inexistence is so much better, why doesn't it exist in the first place?

Sincerely,

- Parmenides

>>17850062
It's not enough to kill myself. I should do everything in my strength to release everyone else from curse of being born.

>>>>17849414

>>happiness and pleasure
>>provisional
>Bliss is eternal.

Personal ignorance maybe.
Collective ignorance, which you belong?

>>pleasure is but an illusion
>Correct. You would be stupid to focus on pleasure.

Why is that stupid?
The differences between the slow grueling death of life – itself a torment whether you're born in which shithole there are, what demented regime & its nobility commands – and non-existence are stark; the latter being the absence of pain.

>>True love is only possible between two people whose characters are perfectly similar
>I'm sorry you had that experience. There are studies done on this and character similarity ain't it.

You're not sorry, you're gleeful at OP's probable experience you thought of.
Your studies ignore social class, I guaran-fuckin'-tee it.

>>Morality creates no happiness
>It creates meaning and hence happiness by your own admission.

You said you'd be stupid to focus on pleasure.
By your admission, you're stupid to focus on morality that proliferates [negative] pleasure, this fiction of artificial constraints.

>>17849441
Being a contrarian, with asterisks, at each talking point isn't being smart, shitarse; on the contrary (no pun), it makes you superficial, indecisive, and unconfident on your own belief that you weaselly bring up to damage others.

>>17850062
>Why don't antinatalists just kill themselves, then?

Shit-for-brains, utter cretin, idiot, despicable smooth brain that you are...

Antinatalists are not in control of WMDs.
They're controlled by sociopathic sadistic cynics, that enjoy having their petty high making everyone else miserable in some self-imposed pecking order, while pretending the Demiurge™ is at fault, not them.

>Oh wait, because they enjoy living. They just want to watch Rick and Morty until they're 90.

Does it matter, shit4brains? Nobody asked them to be here.

>>17850149

Antinatalism isn't your imagined mood swings.

>>17850189
You must eat actual shit, while you're at it, since flies aren't incorrect just like you say you all are.

>>17850204
Not-so-dear natalists,

Why are you afraid of death/inexistence, the inevitable?
Isn't that make-believe bullshitting [yourselves] by proxy, insofar as making the rest miserable so that you self-hypnotize you're doing great?

Get real.

>>17851374
I quite enjoy living

>>17851380

Sure you do.

>>17851374
>Antinatalism isn't your imagined mood swings.
Not sure what point you're trying to make.

I have kids and my life is greatly enriched because of it.

Since I have experienced being both childless and now with a loving family, my anecdotal experience is far more important than yours, Chud.

If non existence is wo objectevly better then why isn't the reality?
Why is the reality existence and not nonexistence?

>>17849406 (OP)
If life is bad like you claim why not kill yourself?

anything going on in this bot thread? or just bump bump bump like a cinder block tied to your ankle

>>17851384
Yes? Life is inherently good. If I didn't like life I would kill myself. Hell a majority of people enjoy life.

>>17851374
>Why are you afraid of death/inexistence, the inevitable
I'm not.
>Isn't that make-believe bullshitting [yourselves] by proxy, insofar as making the rest miserable so that you self-hypnotize you're doing great?
What the fuck are you even talking about? Meds.

>>17849406 (OP)
Simply retarded
You will die and be forgotten by history, your only chance of having some worthwhile influence on the world wasted. Good job.

>>17851374
>Isn't that make-believe bullshitting [yourselves] by proxy, insofar as making the rest miserable so that you self-hypnotize you're doing great?
this isn't a debate, nigger. If inexistence by its definition doesn't exist, it can't be ascribed any "good" quality, or even qualities at all, whatsoever. Meanwhile, existence can. It's basic logic.

>>17851374
Something>nothing. This is a simple unrefutable fact

>>17849406 (OP)
Anti-natalists should not breed.

>>17851374
>Why are you afraid of death/inexistence, the inevitable?
There's nothing bad about either existence or nonexistence, but existence is more interesting.

>>17852064
They don't, nobody wants to fuck a sadsack.

>>17849406 (OP)
>breeders
There are none of those here.

>>17852171
I'm a sadsack and I get laid all the time. You just put on a good face bro.

>>17851852
>You will die and be forgotten by history,
So will you, breeder

>dude morality is a fiction
Suffering and pleasure are emotional concept that are no less fictitious than morality. You can't pretend your position is entirely derived from logic while relying on emotional concepts to form the basis of your argument. Either you're a materialist or you're not.
>suffering is le bad
Wrong. Strength is good and it is impossible to acquire strength without suffering. Suffering isn't inherently bad.

>He has Risen.
all you had to say

>>17849406 (OP)
>Life is a suffering
Ironically, I would love to see anti-natalism become popular amongst Indians, especially the diaspora.

>>17852859
> Either you're a materialist or you're not.
False dilemma.

>>17849406 (OP)
>Morality is just a fiction
Then antinatalism is false. If morality is just a fiction, it doesn't matter whether you have children or not.

>>17849406 (OP)
Alright, face the wall and I'll correct the mistake of your birth.

>>17849406 (OP)

>>17854216
based. i wish all of these fags would just kill themselves already. life is suffering but they're so afraid of dying, truly ironic.

Are you guys having fun arguing against nobody?

> just kill yourself
You don't understand that even death wouldn't undo our existence. It's like being unraped... Just impossible.

>>17849406 (OP)
>having children bad because it disallows me to engage in endless hedonism

>>17854653
No it isn't. Once you die that's it. Poof. Everything is over. From dust you were created and dust you shall return

>>17849406 (OP)
Yeah, we're already not breeding. Take this message to Africa.