Thread 17852932

Marxism is an offshoot of Christianity

>>17852932 (OP)
LMFAO at the people quoed on the left right. These are super overrated retards.

>>17852938
Top left. It's late here.

marxism is an offshoot of socialism which is an offshoot of liberalism which is an offshoot of secularism due to the enlightenment which lead to a greater understanding of human history, spirituality and science within to total framework of utopian worldview where Jesus Christ is coming and it's going to be epic

>>17852944
*within a total framework of a utopian worldview where Jesus Christ is coming and it's going to be epic

Every single political ideology and religion is an offshoot of the hunter-gatherer world culture of prehistory

>>17852948
monotheism is pretty unique don't you think

>>17852944
>secularism due to the enlightenment
Bear in mind that the enightment was just a propaganda term they used for themselves and called the previous age, the Dark Age

In reality, majority of witch huntings happened here

>>17852948
Christianity is not really an "offshoot" of anything
If ever, it is a complete inversion of the standard belief system

>>17852952
Not really, it emerged out of Monolatrism, which is essentially what early ancient Israelite religion was, and monolatrism just emerged out of Henotheism

>>17852961
>most historically literate Christard

>>17852965
You heard me, bitch
EVERYTHING about Christianity is an inversal of the pagan belief

Pagans tell you these
>Society is in a hierarchy of emperor, then priest, then merchants, then peasants, then slaves
J: All are equal in the eyes of the Lord
>rich people are closer to the gods
J: Blessed are the poor
>worship brings great fortune
J: All who follow me will suffer
>if you have much, you are favored by the gods
J: He who was given much, much is expected in return

And so on and so forth
Hell, the entire story of Isaac was a complete inversal of the human sacrifices that are being done throughout the entire Levant

Jesus' sacrifice itself was a complete inversal of Pagan sacrifice rituals
In their rituals, the peasants bring the sacrifices, which are presented to the gods and then eaten by the priests and then followers to earn the god's favors
Here comes Jesus, who was THE God, who descended to be the sacrifice just so the followers could eat him and they would be elevated to the divine

>>17852932 (OP)
Have fun burning.

Christianity
>man is born a filthy sinful beast that can only find grace through the church and by selfsacrifice
Communism
>man is born a filthy selfish beast that can only find grace via the worker's party and by selfsacrifice
Big think

>>17852986
Christianiy is an offshoot of Judaism

>>17853043
Nigger
WE are the REAL Jews
Judasim are the assblasted fags who made their own new book because the canon called them out for blasphemy

That doesnt really make any sense

Atheism is foundational to Marxism, all Marxism is is essencially an amoral nihilistic view of human existence which is necessary for the concept up historical materialism and the primacy of material interests.

Marxism teaches that we are all just monkeys on a rock and the rich monkeys who own the rights property which are enforced by the state, and since thier lifestyles and identities are all tied to this ownership they have a vested interest in working together to protect themselves and their material interests.

Because there is no God, morality and culture and ethnicity and identity and spirituality and all those things come secondary to material interests

As such, Marxism posits that the monkeys who arent rich and dont own things also have a shared material interest with each other the same way the rich monkeys do, and posits a theoretical manor in which the poor monkeys will supplant the rich bourgeoisie monkeys just as the bourgeoisie monkeys supplanted the aristocratic monkeys in the french revolution


All I all this is quite literally the polar opposite of what christianity teaches

Christianity teaches that morality and spirituality are #1 and material interests are all secondary. Not only does christianity diametrically oppose the pursuit of wealth which defines communism, it also opposes the amoral nihilistic foundation which it is all but on


Surely you arent stupid enough to believe they are the same because "communism is about poors seizing wealth and jesus said to be nice to poor people"

Because that would be excrutiatingly embarassing for you

>>17853362
>As such, Marxism posits that the monkeys who arent rich and dont own things also have a shared material interest with each other the same way the rich monkeys do, and posits a theoretical manor in which the poor monkeys will supplant the rich bourgeoisie monkeys just as the bourgeoisie monkeys supplanted the aristocratic monkeys in the french revolution
You've already made a grave mistake here. It's not even about being rich or poor, it's about the levers of power, mostly via production, that induce social ills. Certain levers of power should be democratized was Marx's argument.

>>17853373
I guess I could have worded it better. The actual "levers of power" you are refering to is property ownership, which I specified at the beginning of the post is a feature of the rich, they own property. The democratization of property ownership is the theoretical manor through which the poor who down own property can seize power and fulfill their material interests.

>>17853398
>The actual "levers of power" you are refering to is property ownership
Marx would have pointed to the means of production first.
>The democratization of property ownership is the theoretical manor
This is feudalism, which Marx wasn't even arguing against mainly. He was talking about the rise of capito-liberalism: people were becoming unlanded merchants with no loyalty but to the silver. For example, someone could own no land but rent their properties and put the means of production or equivalent on them and profit at societies detriment.

>>17852932 (OP)
Why didn't the USSR adopt Christianity?

>>17853451
Historically the synod of the Orthodox was in symphonia with the imperial government. This means that early communists had to go up against the Orthodox church as if it were a shadow government. The church would collect data, report to the government, and supply counter-agitation propaganda. In other words, they saw it as a soft version of the FBI, maybe a modern equivalent would be a psyops division in the NSA.

>>17853451 Anon it's very well known that the USSR was influenced by marxism.Marxism views religion as "opium of the masses".Christianity is a religion therefore the USSR wouldn't adopt it.