I would like to discuss: I recently realized I don't believe in a singular being called "God". Jesus in the apocrypha says god is non-existence. I have a hard time with that and I don't like the old testament or Judaism in general also. So I thought what if the spirituality that Hinduism contains, is true? Not Hinduism itself, with all those gods, strange rituals, but the spiritual truths contained within certain Hindu sacred texts such as the upanishads and the agamas? Is it possible that the first humans practiced this kind of thing, before humanity fell to paganism and animism and all that stuff? Long, long before. The other option I have in mind is, is the Islamic namaz ritual, the movements, and so on, did the first people on earth actually worship in the Islamic way? I don't mean did they say the exact words but did they perhaps do the same movements?? These are important topics for me personally. I feel interested in your thoughts on this.

>>17853958 (OP)
I think the existence of a singular God makes sense, but I do believe in lower deities that act. Are they eternal? Who knows. I think what makes them divine is their capacity to have knowledge of and interact with our world without being affected by it.

>>17853958 (OP)
>Jesus in the apocrypha
Huh?
> I don't like the old testament
Why?
>or Judaism in general
Thats fine. Judaism is antichrist and the creation of the pharisees.
>what if the spirituality that Hinduism contains, is true?
There could be partion of the truth in it. By why settle for less than the fullness of the Truth?
>did the first people on earth actually worship in the Islamic way?
No
>These are important topics for me personally.
Thank you for sharing.

>>17853973
Apocrypha means some gnostic text i think one of the texts written by James the brother of Christ. Judaism is not the creation of 1st century pharisees. It goes way back. Moses is said to have been a Kabbalist as well as King David and King Solomon. Judaism is the religion of the old testament and kabbalah is the esoteric side, while Christianity, the belief in a triune god, and all the rest, is a creation of 1st century Jews. It could perhaps come from the Essenes, but who knows really. It's not the direct continuation or "fulfillment" of the old testament prophets and seers.

>>17853973
Because the old testament just doesn't vibe with me. Can't put it any other way. The new testament is cool but I explained how it's untrue above this post here. The old testament clearly teaches annihilationism also as well as Christ in the gospel of Judas.

>>17853985
>Apocrypha means some gnostic text
False
>Judaism is not the creation of 1st century pharisees. It goes way back. Moses is said to have been a Kabbalist as well as King David and King Solomon.
Wrong again.
>Judaism is the religion of the old testament and kabbalah is the esoteric side
You keep bringing up kabbalah like it isnt medieval gnosticism. Judaism was established as a doctrine after the destruction of the second temple.
>while Christianity, the belief in a triune god, and all the rest, is a creation of 1st century Jews. It could perhaps come from the Essenes, but who knows really.
Christ is the fulfillment of the of the promises all throughout the old covenant. Triune God of the NT is the same Triune God of the OT.
>It's not the direct continuation or "fulfillment" of the old testament prophets and seers.
Oh yes it is

https://youtu.be/tWXqSoyHDjw?si=nuEdjl15YGTXeia7
https://youtu.be/2fhd_YnhEkM?si=TLGj7RMJW_9buO1B
https://youtu.be/88PTOiNSA1A?si=70NYQeiYcZCGUaXL

>>17853990
>The old testament clearly teaches annihilationism
Please explain where you mean, friend?
>as well as Christ in the gospel of Judas.
Why does that gnostic text matter?

>>17854002
You are utterly blinded by false faith in something that doesn't exist at least not in the way you believe it does. Kabbalah existed with Moses perhaps even with Abraham. You are a fool.

>>17853958 (OP)

I personally believe in Shintoism, but it definitely has some striking similarities to Hinduism.

>>17854005
Because it contains truths so profound, no christian could accept it. That's why you burned these books btw.

>>17854007
And your proof that Moses practised kabbalah? Try not to bring up the Zohar or the Talmud okay rabbi?

>>17854005
Read psalms. Many times elsewhere the idea that the wicked shall be utterly destroyed is mentioned. The old testament doesn't afaik speak of any hellfire except when it says temporary fire for the people who wore pagan amulets or something like that it's mentioned. The entire hellfire idea comes from the single verse in Isaiah their worm will not die and something else I don't recall. That's it. One verse.

>>17854016
It's clear. I don't need proof, I sense it with my third eye.

>>17854019
>except when it says temporary fire for the people who wore pagan amulets or something like that it's mentioned
Your thinking of the Apocrypha and its not hellfire but actually purgatory, a cleansing fire that we all must pass through. To be before God while imperfect is a painful thing.
>Many times elsewhere the idea that the wicked shall be utterly destroyed is mentioned
Very true. "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."

>>17854022
Look I will never again even slightly give in to this grift shit. Christianity is done for me. I don't care. Talk to the hand.

>>17853985
You dont know what youre talking about whatsoever. Gnostic texts are not “the Apocrypha”.

>>17854047
They're not. I know. But they are so profound, especially thunder perfect mind, that nothing in the bible even comes CLOSE. Nothing. I have read and meditated on the sayings of thunder perfect mind. It's so profound.