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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:40:42 AM No.17856176
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A Jewish man named Jesus of Nazareth existed in the Herodian Kingdom of Judea and the subsequent Herodian tetrarchy in the 1st century AD, upon whose life and teachings Christianity was later constructed
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:45:11 AM No.17856186
>Christianity was later constructed
Much probably against his will, since what he really wanted was to show people that everyone is Christ and that everyone can realize it by following his example.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:54:02 AM No.17856200
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>>17856176 (OP)
*Galilean
Jesus did not have much to do with jewry. He mostly criticized the pharisees for being hypocrites and liars. modern jews claim descent from those same pharisees who were probably already mixed if they were Judahtes/Levites/Benjamites at all.
>inb4 out of context mistranslated Gospel quote
IVDAEAN =/= jew
It would be like calling some random Mexican tribe Roman descendants if one fine day they all decided to start speaking Classical Latin
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:06:20 AM No.17856221
I don't believe in the mystical aspects of the bible, but it's pretty obvious that Christ existed.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:12:42 AM No.17856230
>>17856176 (OP)
>>17856200
I think that's actually a more important point to make: Jesus was a Galilean. Galilee had been subject to migrations from other parts of the Middle East for centuries. Unlike Samaria or Judea, Galilee was a part of Canaan but not really tied to Yahwism. When Jesus was born it had only been a century since the Hasmoneans had conquered the region and forcefully converted everyone to Judaism, same as they did with the Ituraeans and Idumeans. If it is true that he was born up in some small village in Nazareth and not Bethlehem, it is likely that he was not an ethnic Jew at all, but instead the descendant of Canaanite converts to Judaism. He never had any real connections to the Jerusalem cult or the Jewish mindset and only understood it through the lens of a subaltern population who learned about the religion through the scriptures. That's why he was probably so fervently devoted to it.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:36:09 AM No.17856568
>>17856200
>He mostly criticized the pharisees for being hypocrites and liars
And yet had no documented theological or otherwise religious issues with them. He even tells his followers "do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice." Almost like he was one of them, but just against their hypocrisy.
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Simon Salva - Apostle to the 4channers !tMhYkwTORI
7/20/2025, 3:25:07 PM No.17857579
>>17856176 (OP)

Yes. Jesus was historical and God.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:34:42 PM No.17857602
>was
Oh, so he's dead, must be why he has been quiet for 2k years.
That explains it, thank you
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:02:03 PM No.17857874
>>17856186
All Christ wants is for you to obey his teachings. To be righteous, humble and meek and do good to others.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:52:33 PM No.17857962
>>17856176 (OP)
Probably. We'll enever actually what the guy actually taught, though. If he even taught anything.
I'd go as far as to say the Catholic church of Constantines time was probably rather distant to whatever he actually taught. And so were all the other churches around that time.
>>17856186
Nietzsche reader are we?
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:25:00 PM No.17858017
>>17857962
If I recall correctly Giordano Bruno also believed this. So you know, not a unique thought.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:58:44 PM No.17858229
>>17856186
How do you know this?
Pakistani Bro
7/20/2025, 9:37:17 PM No.17858364
>>17856200
Rabbi Yeshua was a zionist (Jewish supremacist)
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:01:50 AM No.17859233
>>17858364
>namefag
jeets should not discuss human affairs
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:30:28 AM No.17859283
>>17856568
He was not one of them you dolt
Read the Gospel
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:35:07 AM No.17859295
>>17856176 (OP)
>be ancient Hebrews
>don't claim to invent civilization
>literally reject everything Mesopotamia stands for: idols, temples, priest-kings, child sacrifice, human-as-god goy nonsense
>do 360 and moonwalk away from Ur, don't flex about building pyramids or inventing writing โ€” flex about NOT being psychos
>Abraham nopes the fuck out of Babylonian globohomo freakshow to follow invisible sky voice
>starts minimalist tribe built on anti-goyslop ethics, not globohomo empire

>fast forward to Egypt
>Moses leads beta uprising, not to build a "civilization" but to dunk his circumcized balls on Pharaoh
>Ten Commandments = anti-globohomo empire manifesto
>rules about not murdering, not enslaving, not being trash goy humans
>basically moral guerilla warfare against the cannibalistic, bestial goy world order

>Hebrew identity = rebellion against goy degeneracy
>donโ€™t brag about cities, brag about *not* worshipping cows or eating your enemies
>civilization? keep it. we're here for righteousness

>modern cope: "But Hebrews just borrowed from other cultures!"
>lol okay, and Nietzsche borrowed from Greek myth โ€” doesn't mean he was a pagan priest

Hebrews didnโ€™t invent civilization. They *rescued* it from itself
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:27:44 AM No.17859545
>>17859295
Kill yourself idiot. The Jews were invaders in Egypt. It's cool that you think torture killing Christ "to stop philosopher kings" is theologically important and moral, but cultural advancement doesn't work like that. Every step of the process was needed to create the next.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:49:01 PM No.17860351
>>17859295