Why did humans created Gods?

Insecurity. They didn't think they were worth enough to worship the One without a second.

>>17858373 (OP)
it short: as a cope. it was comforting to think we were taken care of by others and that we weren't actually alone on a floating rock. also to help explain what we didn't understand. it was easier to say that hurricane that wiped out the entire village was because we didn't sacrifice enough goats vs. not being able to comprehend the vagaries of metereology

Maybe to understand what they didn't understand and also to understand how they understood. Detect pattern, assume pattern was created by a mind like the one their using to detect the pattern, Gods emerge. And in the meantime, every night, they frantically hallucinate as they sleep.

>w-we created you!
>'lmao'

>>17858373 (OP)
Tick tock.

>>17858373 (OP)
The observable universe implies something keeps things happening the way they do

Gods? To answer questions about the world, to create a narrative about themselves. Gods filled in a lot of the gaps, the unknown, that kept people awake at night.

It's such a shame religion had to then be invented to take advantage of the desperate human need for meaning.

>>17858373 (OP)
They are an extension of hierarchies like chieftains and fathers.
>>17858387
It's not comforting. It's an extension of unpredictable arbitrary phenomena like violence, famine, disease, etc. Polytheism was a terrifying system to live under with many gods and spirits chaotically toying with people. Christianity is also very existentially terrifying especially with the existence of eternal hell.

>>17858436
Hell exists in many religions (because its real, and you are going there)

>>17858373 (OP)
>humans created Gods

You got it backwards... gods created various bloodlines of man

>>17858436
>It's not comforting.
No, it's much more comforting to have an explanation for why things happen. To have a story you can tell others. It doesn't mean it is not painful to live in a violent, random world, it just means you can narrativize the pain and prepare future generations for the brutality of the world so that they hopefully cope better and don't carry around as much trauma. It's like inoculating the population to the trauma of random violence.

>>17858444
checked. atheists on suicide watch

>>17858373 (OP)
Gods created humans

>>17858373 (OP)
Gods were invented to brainwash people into believing them to better control and manipulate the population

All gods are mythologies
All holy books are fictional
Politics is Treachery
Religion is Brainwashing

>>17858513
There's no way this is true. Gods served as perfectly respectable explanations, and really the only explanations, for what people noticed about the world up until the advent of hyper HYPER sophisticated understandings built on understandings built on understandings of *how* things work. But even now the existence of a universal mind and gods as deeply rooted and in some sense real psychological entities, is a tenable enough position to hold I feel, it's kind of creeping back into respectability space right now too from the looks of it, probably mostly due to the disruptive internet tech. It has sometimes become what you've described since the olden days as states emerged and became more and more complicated, but it's not exclusively that. But I think you know that. I think you are a 4chan troll and someone, not me because I'm NOT a janny, will ban you very shortly. You have been warned by me, not a janny ;)

They are metaphysical, multidimensional archetypes, and due to quantum physics and even the extremes of relativity, can certainly exist. All of existence itself is in fact of the capacity to be a form of sentience in the fact it retains and holds logic within its parameters. So you cannot disprove gods without disproving mechanics within systems that institutions and industries depend on to be affirmed functionally. That being said we have little to go on in absolute certainty concerning who or what these higher forms may be or how they function. That is where faith comes in for those aware. Naturally we would seek to align ourselves sensibly with what we are attuned to within.

>>17858398
>he thinks space is real

>>17858753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0X0E3Hps14

>>17858753
>he thinks real is real.
Pshh

>>17858753
>>17858763
Picked a bad example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ZrwdSYu-A
Could be something to it though. Ballparking a Sean Carroll credence, I'm going... 5%... as a retarded man.

>>17858436
>existence of eternal hell.
hell does not exist, not even within christianity. it's a bad translation of what was mass grave pits outside of cities where bodies would be thrown after a battle/pandemic.

>>17858373 (OP)
Fallen angels and archons fucking around.

>>17858440
>appeal to majority
>inplying you are not hellbound yourself

>>17858823
>appeal to majority
more like observable truth
>you are hellbound yourself
I know I am. and so are you

I know I said "their" instead of "they're" guys, but I do think there's likely a strong and direct connection to the fact that we dream, and some people experience strong dream-like visions while awake, and the emergence of Gods as a hypothesis/belief and as awfully-close-to-real experienced entities. Gods probably go back really REALLY deep in our species' past and in some sense maybe other animals "believe" in them or at least experience the same psychological processes that were and frequently still are attributed to Gods or God or whatever.

>>17858373 (OP)
They didn't. They exist. And I'm saying that a believer in Christ. And not in a cucked they are demons way. There are spiritual forces in the world. Believe it or not. And considering you put a capital G, I'd say you kinda understand that and have respect for the God/gods.

>>17858868
And tacking on, I think this is correctly attributable to mental illness sometimes, and definitely doesn't provide any fitness boost when genes associated with having religious experiences are maximized (true Norwegian Schizophrenia), but also is a psychological function that seems to be able to work wonders on otherwise perfectly sane and rational people in something like moderation. Reasons for this are either A) truly natural mechanism (that I'm thinking Jung was right that we shouldn't fully shun), B) natural mechanism that really has an explanation that would strike rational people as magical (the gods exist in a Jungian collective unconscious that tethers us to real natural-magical entities).

>>17858885
We don't know what we don't know, and the realm of spirits and art and symbols and dreams is better at dealing with the information that we're not able to grapple with properly than the world of concrete empirical fact and True Norwegian Rationality (favoring the neocortex or something probably). The world of concrete empirical fact and total sense-making is, not always but probably frequently, blind to the forest of which the understood trees are just parts (and broad brush parts)... lost my original point fellas. It's gone.

>>17858373 (OP)
For community, to explain the world around them, and to quell existential dread.

>>17858898
Using symbolic/religious language, I can kind of understand where the idea of Satan and knowledge-bringer came from now though. The knowledge will always be incomplete and deadly and spiritually dead worldviews will emerge from insufficient understanding of this.

Just going to schizo blog? There's something evil FEELING to me about guys like Scott Adams, and I've met a few of them in my personal life too, and I think it might have something to do with meta-cognition actually (it might all have to do with willingness to lie and deceive mostly, and I'm overthinking this). The idea that you have the ability to completely alter your reality from the inside out yourself, which isn't a definition of meta-cognition but bear with me, without paying homage to the WHOLE, or while essentially scrapping the WHOLE, leads to a really strong feeling of dead spirit that I think others can detect. Scott Adams seems like a miserable man to me with perfectly defined goals and plans and plots. Steering your thoughts is something we can do, and probably should do, and that's what belief in God probably does, but when it's hijacked by this other entity... puzzled emoji

>>17858959
And the WHOLE includes an understanding, whether consciously processed or not, that available and relevant information will always be incomplete. FUCKING lost the idea again. I'm on to something though guys, give me a second.

>>17858670
Soo,... You think the administration is going to ban me because you disagree with my belief??? Sheesh I guess a few hundred years ago you would be trying to scare me with burning at the stake or some other mideveil torture device of the Inquisition, you're talking to a mature adult here, I am not some kid that fell off the turnip wagon yesterday