Hitler vs Stalin - /his/ (#17860539) [Archived: 315 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:33:01 PM No.17860539
Hitler vs Stalin
Hitler vs Stalin
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How accurate is this?
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:34:26 PM No.17860542
>>17860539 (OP)
>Continue without Stalin
I think history proved that wrong though.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:42:24 PM No.17860558
Hitler: built up a retard cult that collapsed under its own retardation
Stalin: took over Lenin's superior cult and made it extra-cruel, did not collapse under its own retardation but rather from the desperation of an isolated economy
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:49:21 PM No.17860576
>>17860539 (OP)
But Hitler's system held out against global ZOG until the smoldering ruins of every German city were taken by military force. Hitler's system didn't collapse due to some vague bureaucratic problems.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:53:36 PM No.17860591
The Soviet Empire held out like a couple decades in stagnation and then collapsed after Stalin. It isn't really anything in the grand scheme of things. At least Hitler's empire got destroyed by overwhelming firepower, talking about "institutions" is worthless
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:02:06 PM No.17860617
>>17860539 (OP)
I don't think that Hitler's Germany was united in the way that Stalinist Russia was, after the purges.
Hitler had his nazis, but also had the aristocrats in the military and finance, also had conservative and liberal elements, also had the catholics in Bavaria and the Prussians and the Rhine germans all having different ideological and material interests, etc.

USSR was just more united, both because Stalin killed other possible leaders and organizations, and because its territory had the same material outlook.

It is also true that Stalin better represented the communist movement, than Hitler represents the nazi movement. His esoteric views, probable paganism, ideas of vegetarian and animal welfare, fetishization of rural life over city life, etc, were all very weird and not shared by his officers or the general population. Germany was, up until the full blown naiz takeover, a nation of industrialists, philosophers, artists, and cities.
Meanwhile, Stalin was just a red tzar, in a country that was used to having a tzar, and where all the non-reds were killed. So, red tzar it is.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:09:33 PM No.17860637
I call bullshit. Stalin was practically revered as a God among men by the Soviet populations, they were far more breastfed with his image than Germans were with Hitler, tho Hitler definitely had a cult of personality, rejecting such claim would be absurd. Mein kampf was practically given out for free at virtually every possible occasion (graduations, weddings, funerals, you name it).
We honestly can't know whether NSDAP regime would have continued without Hitler so it's all just pure speculation. When Khrushchev took over, the USSR took a very different characteristics and way of life than it had been under Stalin, and Khrushchev was very active in changing that image. We may as well assume something similar with NS Germany with Hitlers successor.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:39:19 PM No.17860718
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Stalin's biggest failure was not uniting his homeland...
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:29:43 AM No.17862004
>>17860558
>>17860539 (OP)
Nazis civil war of 1960s akin to post-Alexanderian Macedonian succession crisis etc?
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:31:10 AM No.17862006
>>17860718
Why didn’t he attempt take over eastern Turkey when the Allies was distracted
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:08:36 PM No.17863277
Bump
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:11:23 PM No.17863283
>>17860542
/thread

Post-Stalin USSR was basically a different country
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:12:36 PM No.17863287
>>17860558
>did not collapse under its own retardation but rather from the desperation of an isolated economy
No, I'm fairly sure it was retardation.
The USSR wasn't isolated in 1989, and even if it had been, it would have been the leadership's fault