What caused the decline of Chicago? It used to be one of America's most glorious cities

>>17861466 (OP)
It's been Democrat-controlled since 1932.

>>17861466 (OP)
The red pill is that every Midwestern city was filled with europoor socialists which advocated for the least efficient governments possible so that they could embezzle as much tax revenue as possible. Industrialists tried desperately to create high class gated utopias in the Midwest and in places like California but every time their dreams and visions were destroyed by the unchecked europoor migrations which fueled their financial ascension in the first place

>>17861476
>Hey fellow Americans, the problem is europoor socialists!

Socialist retards and niggers

>>17861466 (OP)
It belongs to Polack bvlls now

>>17861484
>Be europoor communist
>Be 80 IQ
>Borderline illiterate
>Move to the Midwest
>Sign on with the local "I can't read" scab group
>Chase out all the native labor
>Create unions
>Demand factories not invest in technology
>Get your europoor politicians to extort industrialists of money
>Industrialists leave
>Anglos are gone
>Now your city is just a bunch of 80 IQ socialists trying to fuck each other financially
>Why did every US city with mass immigration fail
Hmm

>>17861466 (OP)
Gay race communism. Managerialism. Progressive liberalism. Leftism. The modernist worldview. Decadence.

>>17861466 (OP)
it's the largest city of the Midwest, a region now described as the "rust belt"

>>17861466 (OP)
the car industry in the US was slowly crippled since overseas compeition was able to catch up, and chicago heavily relied on said industry so the moment it started downsizing so did other related businesses, everybody pretty much saw the jobs leaving so those who could packed up and moved, which also put a dent in the cities tax revenue

>>17861484
europeans are fucking stupid. I'm tired of people not realizing this.

>>17861476
> Industrialists tried desperately to create high class gated utopias in the Midwest and in places like California
Industrialists are regards who created glorified company towns that turned into hellholes once they predictably imported blacks and browns to act as scab labor and then the factory closed because they got outcompeted by Japanese car brands

>>17862165
>regards
retards*
>>17862162
You are brown Rakesh

>>17862165
They're also the people that ran the public transportation

>>17862154
it's hard to believe nowadays, but before the rise of japan and china, the United States was the world's premier manufacturer of steel and intricate machine made goods
when all those jobs disappeared the rust belt was created. Donald Trump wants to bring those industries back but it's not possible so those cities will continue to suffer drain

>>17861466 (OP)
Chicago's economy was built on being the transit hub for American railroads and the center for American manufacturing. Our modern globalized world favors coastal cities like New York and San Francisco.

>>17862169
>brown

>>17861484
You don't want me to say what the real problem is with Chicago

chicago was NEVER good

>>17862184
Independent of politics and globalization, the fact is that we've passed peak steel demand, peak machine parts demand, peak electronic circuits demand, and peak AI demand. We've passed peak car demand, peak house demand, and peak credit card demand. There are only so many cars you can sell someone and you can't sell more than a single 36-month lease to even the richest tech bros. Banks figured this out years ago as they consolidated and fiscalized these companies into their current ultra-global, multi-national iterations and it will all choke, collapse and fall apart as the world runs out of money. And even if the world prints more money, it will never be *enough* money to make new production cars, engines, solar panels, computers etc cheaper than existing used ones. And there's three big international global website (ebay, amazon and walmart) where they can be easily resold.

Trump will fail for the same reasons Obama did. This is just not a fixable economic situation. Capitalism destroys itself. You don't need to buy an entire Hollywood Studio's worth of cameras when AI makes an equivalent film now, and soon the AI won't need high-end premium graphics cards either. This is independent of falling birthrates even, which compounds this problem as well. The economy as it's worked for the past century will not make it to 2030.

Ask me how I 100% know this is a bot
>>17862184

>>17861466 (OP)
The part of Chicago that managed to yuppify itself is bigger than San Francisco and much more affordable for a normal person. It's still the biggest city in its region by far and the third largest nationally

>>17862415
The nice parts of Chicago are beautiful, but the city as a whole is a dangerous shithole. People shit on the NYC subway for being dangerous and filled with homeless druggies, but Chicago is the only place where I’ve seen a homeless guy give me the evil eye on a train looking like he’s about to murder me.

>>17861466 (OP)
it's still one of the richest cities tho

>>17862430
>Chicago is bad because...someone looked at me weird
Why is this website full of so many weak shut-in scelerophobic retards? You know scelerophobia is typically thought of as being far more common in women than men overall, yet whenever I go on this website I always see so-called "men" getting bothered by people looking at them weird or random graffitti on the walls like they're some 1980s "concerned citizen". I haven't been to Chicago in my entire life, but based on the sheer dissonance between peoples experiences on this website and reality that I have seen, I'm always just going to take this shit with a grain of salt and say you're all just pussies. Maybe giving Europeans access to the internet was a bigger mistake than giving Indians access to the internet.

>>17862474
It wasn’t just a “weird look”, they stared like they had murderous intent and were staring for minutes on end until I left the car. I didn’t stare back at them but people don’t like it when a homeless black guy who they don’t even know if they are in the right mind or high on drugs is planning on robbing them or not. I know this concept must be shocking to cityfags who are used to being hollered at by gangbangers and drug addicts.

>>17862492
> they stared like they had murderous intent and were staring for minutes on end until I left the car.
I know being on your period can be tough, you go girl!

>>17862496
>dude why don’t you go wander around alone in the slums of Mogadishu, Somalia after dark… are you a CHICKEN???

This board is reddit. I know it now. How almost thirty posts have transpired and they've all danced around the one simple answer. That's the essence of reddit: finding socially acceptable explanations for the truth.

>>17861466 (OP)
Really sad how some of the nicest looking neighbourhoods became hopeless ghettos.

>>17863272
Nignogs flooded into northern industrial cities beckoned by socialists promising them equality and bounty. They were mostly just used as strikebreakers and stuffed in ghettos. By the time they were represented in US industry socialists had already made it noncompetitive internationally thanks to FDR's complete capitulation to unions

>>17861466 (OP)
Suburbs

>>17861466 (OP)
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>>17861466 (OP)
Non-Whites.

>>17861466 (OP)
Jews realized that cities populated by whites constitute a political threat to their rule, so the federal government coordinated with black criminals to ethnically cleans whites from this and all other American cities

>>17862332
Chiraq is pvre kino

>>17862162
>>17861498
>>17861476
>ANYTHING BUT THE 80 IQ TRIBALS THAT COINCIDENTALLY RUIN EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH

>>17861466 (OP)
Reindustrialization in Europe, Japan and later China.

>>17863272
I actually pointed if out here: >>17862211

>>17862430
>Chicago is the only place where I’ve seen a homeless guy give me the evil eye
>>17862474
>Why is this website full of so many weak shut-in scelerophobic retards? ... I haven't been to Chicago in my entire life, but
Well yes this website is full of shut-in retards who are afraid of cities, but I've been to Chicago a few times and it has the most aggressive panhandlers I've seen anywhere. A friend of mine got mugged walking out of the bus station. It's an evil-looking city that rises out of the plain, gets bone-chillingly cold in the winter, and one of its most famous historical characters is Al Capone.
https://youtu.be/PeNeMnZjbbE

>>17862492
>I know this concept must be shocking to cityfags who are used to being hollered at by gangbangers and drug addicts.
Telling some of them "no" in Chicago can get a reply like IMMA KILL YOU

>>17863697
My ex is from there so it checks out

>>17862474
True. Reality is quite different than what the schizos say here sometimes. Me and some of my friends were at Wrigleyville the night before we went to a game. One of them gets extremely drunk and thinks a woman is into him. He refuses to leave, so we left him at a bar. He ends up running around Chicago all night searching for his phone and wallet while extremely drunk because he lost them. And the only thing that happened to him was a fag tried to molest him when he stopped to ask for directions at a gay bar. The homeless people helped him with directions. People gave him free rides. The next day someone even found his phone and was able to return it to us to give to him.

>ywn visit 1980s chicago
I noticed watching this movie the preponderance of ethnic minorities, even back then the seeds of Chicago's demise were curdling under the surface, but boomers were in their 20s and Reagan was president, perhaps it felt like things could get wholesome again, that black people were equal, and there was no need to return to the old ways.

>>17864206
Chicago's literally been a worthless shithole since its founding with roiling rotten green sewage rivers. There's a not a single redeeming factor of the entire city

To actually answer OPs question, Chicago lost its prestigue once the Erie Canal was built, giving New York access to shipping along the Atlantic coast and the Great Lakes region. Chicago was Americas largest city at one point

>>17864230
the erie canal facilitated the entire midwest's rise to power

>>17864237
But because shipping from the Atlantic had to go through New York first, it meant New York was always going to have the advantage and more economic opportunities.

>>17864255
What do you mean it was all part of their plan

Chicago struggled to fully transition from an industrial economy to one based on services, finance, and tech compared to other cities.

>>17861476
>uh yeah dude i TOTALLY wouldn't have moved my factory to the gomez slave farms if you hadn't asked not to be raped on site collectively
industrial and white flight simple

>>17861466 (OP)
What a hilarious thread. Let me guess, red is blue?

>>17865621
What

>>17864933
There's no such thing as "transitioning into a service economy". In reality a "service economy" is just paying 90% of people to not actually do anything at all every day. The only way this is possible is if you have accumulated wealth and the most important part, people want to actually live there.

Chicago doesn't have any money because nobody wants to live there. This is partly demographics, it was flooded with cheap illegal labor it's entire existence. So a lot of the old blood were forced out of the city by people with no wealth to their name. You can only do this so much before the fabric of society collapses.

Lastly is policy, all major us cities that had a lot of immigration are just anti freedom high regulation high crime shithole that tax away all your wealth.

You already lose like 30% of every paycheck to taxes, why would you live in cities where food prices are triple, utilities are triple and education is actually worse now? Cities like Chicago are extractionary meant to lock you in and steall all your money through taxes.

>>17862184
Discussion of Trump is not /his/

>>>/pol/

>>17862430
The NYC subway isn’t dangerous lol . People who stay that have never been on it or the last time they went on it where the 80s.

>>17865737
It’s pretty obvious what he meant

>>17865768
Don't homeless nogs push people in front of trains

>>17865770
It's not, it's unintelligible and bad English

>be me
>be gayanon
>be cruising in Chi-Town back in 2008
>be in this sauna with a couple other guys
>the door bursts open and in comes this one infamous guy with a pozzed horse cock
>"oh fuck not him"
>everyone runs for it
>I give him head for a few seconds and leave
And that's my experience with Chicago.

>>17865765
>all major us cities that had a lot of immigration
That's everywhere in the US since the 18th century

>>17865778
Right. The is why nobody even moderately white lives in a US major city

Chicago, Chicago
That toddlin' town
I love it
Bet your bottom dollar you lose the blues in Chicago, Chicago
The town that Billy Sunday couldn't shut down

>>17865771
Homeless nogs high on fent are not a problem for anyone who’s stronger than a tiny Asian woman

>>17865786
Right but it's NYC and there's no strong white men to protect anyone. It's just minorities chimping out, screaming, and a constant 100 decibel background noise of buzzing and scraping

Yeah it's dangerous although at least the winters shut down most crime for a few months unlike in LA where outdoor activities can be year round.

1985 gets further and further into the distance every year, don't it, Bares fans?

>>17865789
>there’s no strong white men to protect anyone
NYPD cops are overwhelmingly Italian and Irish with some roided out Jews mixed in

>>17865796
Irish and Italian cops are where the "fat useless cop that eats donuts and collects his retirement" come from

>>17865803
Fr in the Italian adaptation of the Simpsons Chief Wiggum talk with a heavy southener accent because this same stereotype within Italy falls on them

>>17861466 (OP)
If the empire collapsed under degeneracy and people associate that with being LGBT why were all of the best Roman and Byzantine Emperors all gay or bi?

Hadrian, Basil, and Trajan were queer as a three dollar bill

>>17865818
Now add institutionalized corruption and bribery on top of that and you see why nobody likes cities, at least US cities aren't full blown third world like mexico where the cops extort you out of money

>>17862430
Tell me youre a suburban faggot from Schaumburg without telling me

Ive been riding the L every workday of every week since I was 18 (34 now) and I've had an issue once.

Its honestly pathetic how worked up people get about our city and for the record its nicer than SF, Boston and New York

>>17861469
Technically you're not allowed to run for mayor under a party affiliation.

>>17863253
Not them but I've walked around the Southside at night, would I walk through Austin? no but most of the city is fine

>>17865844
How many homeless and public masturbators have you seen on the red line? Because i saw 3 yesterday while taking it to Roosevelt.

>>17865876
Ive seen a public masturbator twice
Homeless people sleeping on the train dont bother me, I feel bad for them and wish Christians would be a little more Christ-like and house them

>>17861476
the more accurate take is the Midwest was a manufacturing hub. Manufacturing was killed in this country.

>>17865897
Kinda wish you didnt try and twist people's religion against them because the Christian thing to do would be to take them to a mental asylum

>>17865897
a lot of homeless trash don't even want a house, my sweet naive child

>>17865781
American whites are descendants of immigrants

>>17861466 (OP)
>chicago
my father used to work in chicago, said it was full of assholes. his coworker told him it was because when the wagon trains were heading west they would kick the assholes to the curb there, and they just kind of accumulated. then when detroit was destroyed all of those assholes moved to chicago. for the synergy.

>>17866060
The co worker was a retard because the wagon trains going west started in Missouri

>>17865768
I'm from Texas, and NYC felt *too* safe. But that was Manhattan. I didn't get sketch vibes at all. Probably a different story in some of the outer boroughs, but I think people are still imagining the place like it was in the 1980s. Chicago gave me hairier vibes. People get around in their cars everywhere here but Texas is a moderately higher crime state. The closest I've come to being mugged here was in Houston.

>>17865771
I guess that happened but statistically it's like a blip. There are so many people there and the city is so dense, walking around on foot and taking the subway during rush hour is like being in a crowd being let out of a stadium. From my perspective, the only time I've ever felt like I was "in New York" here was in downtown Austin during SXSW and there were just thousands of people everywhere on the sidewalks.

The other thing I remember about NYC is how many different people there are. It's a crazy place because you'd see someone who looked like they just arrived from a mountain village in Nepal walking down the sidewalk next to a girl who looks like a model from the cover of a magazine. Within minutes of leaving Grand Central Station after arriving from the airport I was stopped by someone needing directions and asking me if I spoke Occitan (I think?). At least that's what I thought they were saying. I was like, uhh, no sorry, good luck!

>>17862184

>>17866060
I had an ex-girlfriend from there and her mother was a huge cunt who would bring up things like how Trump is Hitler and Hitler was actually Jewish and then lecture me over it when nobody asked. She died of colon cancer.

>>17866006
You have to realize that ton of middle class and "Christian" guys are the ones jerking it to homeless dead fantasies. "take them to a mental asylum" wouldn't even cross their minds even if those mental health hospitals and clinics were more widespread.

>>17865774
>implying esl
powerless socialists/anarchists (never elected past john c. kennedy's city council seat) didn't even have the capacity to embezzle let alone push supposedly inefficient policies, america simply got outcompeted by chinese/mexican/japanese manufacturing and because said industrialists have 0 loyalty they just moved their shit there

>>17863336
>you aren't allowed to use public services here and every few weeks we pick one of you to rape and murder for no reason
>we don't
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME ROTHSCHILDS
but we know the actual redpill you won't take is blaming them so

>>17865796
Most big city police departments were started in the 19th century as patronage schemes for the Irish.

>>17861476
> import europeans to build up manufacturing force
> they demand fair compensation
> corporate America spreads its legs and invests into China for cheaper manufacturing throwing thr whole rust belt under the bus
> now the US refuses to recognize Taiwan and still absorbs manufacturing jobs
>>dude the problem was these liberal commie yuropeens man?!! Ugh!!

Most of our industrial base was hocked off to Europe and Japan to prop their economies up for Cold War politics but that need is kind of obsolete now.

>>17866045
Not really. Unless you're talking about Catholics which aren't even human

>>17865961
Why was manufacturing killed in the US? Because socialists refused to let us industry mechanize

>>17868197
Also socialists killed the US with environmental regulations. The oil crisis in the 70's was caused by a state imposed monopoly on Texas oil production and refining from the 1910's which by the 1970's didn't have the capacity to produce a single barrel of oil more than it already was

>>17861466 (OP)
Just recently finished 'Devil in the white city' about the 1893 worlds fair in Chicago. Overall decent book. What stuck with me the most simply how inventive and forward thinking the fair was, people coming from the countryside plowing the fields to seeing things like a ferris wheel for the first time etc, nothing even close to that in the modern world. My favourite segment was the supposed ending show, replica models of Colombus ships were built and would be sailed by crew in appropriate attire, land on the new world and put his sword into the ground, with indians in the background looking on. This was cancelled because of the killing of Chicagos mayor.

>>17865796
>NYPD cops are overwhelmingly Italian and Irish with some roided out Jews mixed in
Maybe in old movies and TV shows but the NYPD today isn’t much different from the current demographics of the city. The mayor is a black ex-cop, and I’ve seen some hot big booty Latinas in uniform. The fire department still has a lot of Irishmen despite decades of DEI attempts.

>>17864230
Chicago was a tiny shithole when the Erie Canal opened and the link from the Great Lakes to the east coast helped the city grow. It really took off as a railroad center in the mid 19th century, with lines to all parts of the Midwest and beyond.