When did the concept of citizenship as we understand it develop and did something like it exist before?

>>17861934 (OP)
The Greeks. Hegel differentiates the ancient societies thusly-

Asia minor and Persia - tyrannies where only the monarch has any rights

Greek city states- partially free, citizens guaranteed rights but not slaves

Ancient Germans - most free because everyone is granted the same rights. There is no tyranny of the king subordinating subjects nor arbitrary class distinctions like citizen and slave/ helot

Hegel said that ideas of Plato's didn't take off in Greece because the class system of the day didn't truly allow for that sort of thinking. Greece was not ready yet.

>>17862060
How the fuck did Ancient Germans not have slaves? We know thralls and churls were things in Norse and Anglo-Saxon societies, it feels highly unlikely that Ancient Germania wouldn't have had similar types of bondage

>>17861934 (OP)
The Roman Empire seems to be the most clear cut case of it, especially after Caracalla's edict (but even before that there was plenty of pathways to "naturalization" as a Roman citizen).
The fact that by the 2nd and 3rd centuries we had plenty of Hispanian, Gallic, Pannonian, Syrian, etc. born leaders who identified strongly with Roman culture and the Empire seems to indicate that this naturalization was fairly good at assimilation

>>17861934 (OP)
don't listen to >>17862060 he's an absolute fucking midwit who's entire breadth of knowledge comes from the history channel. citizinship started as a necessity for the sake of identification in ancient sumeria. men and women wore cylinder seals (small cylinders made out of various stone or crystals) that had engravings in them. they would roll these seals onto clay to sign things, and each person had their own. foreigners and slaves did not have these seals, so it was proof of citizenship for free people. this practice continued in mesopotamia for thousands of years.

"citizenship" originally just meant the right to vote and own land but during the Cold War it also became more about national security

>>17862084
>>17862096
That was from GWF Hegel. Here. I went to AI because I didn't want to manually copy the section out of the book and spend an hour writing tl;Dr on this.

Here is Hegel's view on ancient Germans.

>Based on Hegel's philosophy of history, he believed that the Germanic peoples, under the influence of Christianity, achieved a more advanced and encompassing understanding of freedom than the Greeks.
Hegel saw history as a progressive realization of freedom through the unfolding of the World Spirit (Geist). He outlined this progression in stages:
Oriental World: Only the ruler is free.
Greek and Roman World: Some are free (e.g., citizens, but slavery still existed). Greek ethical life, while valuing freedom, was limited by its reliance on custom and the exclusion of slaves from the concept of freedom, according to Hegel.
Germanic World: All humans are recognized as free, a consciousness that arose primarily through Christianity's emphasis on the inherent freedom of the spirit.
>Therefore, for Hegel, while the Greeks made strides in the concept of freedom compared to the "Oriental" world, the Germanic peoples represented a further, higher stage in the development of the consciousness of freedom. Their understanding, influenced by Christianity, ultimately led to the recognition of universal freedom

>>17862129
Ok, but we know ancient and even early medievel germans had slaves. I genuinely know nothing about hegels writings besides he was a philosopher. So did he mean literally germans had no slaves or figuratively. O was he referring to the german state at a time when like the brits and Spaniards had slaves but germany didnt?

>>17862556
I think he was part of the "wewuzz Greeks an shite" tradition in Germany. Basically a nice way of saying: "FUCK the frogs."