Western settlers came with their own goals. Even sophisticated cults that fled west like the Mormons formed the earliest terror groups with the goal of carving their own state. I forget when they decided to affirm their loyalty to Washington DC but that's beside the point.
Billy the Kid and Jesse James didn't do what they did for love of country and they likely had no loyalty to where they resided. They robbed and killed to serve themselves and buy their way to paradise far away from civilization.
The Governor of California regularly had to send out military expeditions to purge dissident dixie trannies all over his part of the country, which further showed just how much of a disconnect there was between the land, the people, and the government residing over them.
It wasn't until social security and other social support programming was implemented that people in California entered the American fold and started tattooing social security numbers. These people were loggers and miners left to toil for many generations and completely forgotten before they got a helping hand.

>>17862212 (OP)
>Fuck the Government isn't American culture

>>17862244
That's not even American culture.
Shay's Rebellion, the history behind Anti-Pinkerton Act, the various mine police departments that acted as strike breakers. If you step out of line, you get snuffed out.

>>17862212 (OP)
That's the Hollywood Jew conception of the settling of the West. Americans used to celebrate it for fulfilling manifest destiny and for the slaughter of savage Indians.

Cowboy culture is just anglosaxons pretending to be mexicans

>>17862297
Which part is a Hollywood conception?
>>17862351
>implying Mexicans invented cattle rustling
>implying Mexicans invented wide brim hats
>implying Mexicans invented frontier living
I just don't see it.

>>17862351
what was the cowboy equivalent of flaying a rival's face off and sewing it to a soccer ball?

>>17862377
scalping

I make chu suhffer ese I make chu suhfer like I suhfer being brownado.

I too would torture people to death if I was trapped in the body of a short brown goblin

>>17863757
200 years later and they're still short despite eating so goddamn much

>>17862351
>We wuz vaqueros n shit

>>17862258
retard

>>17862212 (OP)
Yes its American culture you blathering moron.

>>17863804
But is it?
I even hear Americans say that California, Oregon, and Washington isn't real America.
People in those states similarly seem to be proud of living in their cities as opposed to the state

>>17863994
Oregon and Washington weren't ever cowboy culture lmao and California might have been cowboy culture in the past but it's long since gentrified now.

>>17864007
Both Oregon and WA had mining towns and cowboys.

It's actually Italian. American Westerns are pretty boring.

>what was the cowboy equivalent of flaying a rival's face off and sewing it to a soccer ball?
Youre talking about narco.
Narco didnt exist in the mexican wild west of the 19th century

Image of a mexican cowboy

>>17862212 (OP)
>Billy the Kid and Jesse James didn't do what they did for love of country and they likely had no loyalty to where they resided.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_County_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushwhacker

Other image.
And yes.
Eramos vaqueros o algo asi.

It’s interesting how government social programs, like Social Security, helped integrate isolated and marginalized populations into a broader national identity, creating new social bonds and a sense of belonging.

>>17863994
>I even hear Americans say that California, Oregon, and Washington isn't real America.
>hearsay
>no true scotsman
Again. Retard.

>>17865133
Politicians are saying this. Half the country is saying this.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/lat-survey-half-of-republicans-believe-california-not-really-american/
Your whole argument is built off of appeal to authority. Put something on the table or fuck off.