Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:04:35 AM No.17862471
What would have happened?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:57:13 PM No.17862756
>>17862471 (OP)
Were there any Ming pretenders around in the early 20th century?
Were there any Ming pretenders around in the early 20th century?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:49:43 PM No.17862984
>>17862756
The Ming pretenders were given a special noble title by the Qing dynasty. Their title was Marquis of Extended Grace. The title was passed down for generations until the fall of the Qing Dynasty.
There was also a special noble title for direct descendants of Confucius. They were given the title Duke of Yansheng. If China had had the equivalent of the Meiji Restoration, then these two families were the leading candidates to become emperor.
Personally, I think elevating a Duke of Yansheng to emperor would have been the better choice. The Ming pretenders were comically poor and marginalized, while the descendants of Confucius had something resembling a base of power and authority.
The Ming pretenders were given a special noble title by the Qing dynasty. Their title was Marquis of Extended Grace. The title was passed down for generations until the fall of the Qing Dynasty.
There was also a special noble title for direct descendants of Confucius. They were given the title Duke of Yansheng. If China had had the equivalent of the Meiji Restoration, then these two families were the leading candidates to become emperor.
Personally, I think elevating a Duke of Yansheng to emperor would have been the better choice. The Ming pretenders were comically poor and marginalized, while the descendants of Confucius had something resembling a base of power and authority.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:57:56 PM No.17863465
>>17862756
hell, there's still one descendant alive today
hell, there's still one descendant alive today