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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:42:55 AM No.17862532
Monarchism
Monarchism
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Can someone please explain monarchism to me? It sounds a bit silly in my head. Wouldn't a dictatorship or a single party government be more efficient than an endogamic family rulling over the nation? Because the argument I ever heard coming from monarchists is that with kings, you can train them since birth to rule a nation. And yeah, that's true, maybe you will get one or two good kings in a row, followed by ten nefarious kings who will only fuck the country up. If you like authoritarian governments I believe a technocracy or a single party government would be more efficient than a monarchy.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:46:41 AM No.17862540
>>17862532 (OP)
> Wouldn't a dictatorship or a single party government be more efficient than an endogamic family rulling over the nation?
No because those govenrments usually derive legitimacy through promoting an ideology to the masses and thus are still dependent on the masses of people and institutions supporting them (church, industry, party members etc.)
Monarchs don’t have to be hard ideologues because their legitimacy is derived from their status at birth. The country is their property legally, and while they aren’t immune from politics they have much more leeway than a dictator ever would in the eyes of the public.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:50:28 AM No.17862545
>>17862532 (OP)
>king chad ascends to the throne and fixes everything, ushering in a new era of peace and prosperity
>his son, prince virgin, eventually takes over and fucks everything up
>repeat this cycle forever until people realize that this system is retarded
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:57:05 AM No.17862561
>>17862532 (OP)
Monarchy derives legitimacy from itself, dictatorships either because of the charisma of the dictator or some technical reasons (millitary takeover, ideological promotion, etc), thats one of the main issues a dictatorship has. ALso, you are kinda overplaying endogamy here, nowadays political marriages aren't nearly as relevant as they were, and back in the day despite endogamy most monarchs didn't have issues, but the exceptions of the ones that actually were biologically screwed. Also, monarchy in average gives medium to decent rulers with some slight deviations towards either bad or good. In democracy its actually where you get one or two good guys and then a mass of morons, if we look at it empirically. Also aesthetics, that is a very strong factor for monarchy.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:01:35 PM No.17862768
>>17862532 (OP)
Clean successions. Look at all the succession wars throughout history.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:11:24 PM No.17862793
>>17862540
Competency will always trump legitimacy in the end hence why no being is being ruled by monarchs anymore.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:46:59 PM No.17862867
>>17862793
There are still absolute monarchs that exist you dullard.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:06:55 PM No.17863274
>>17862867
They are just for show, cosmetic performative and powerless to entertain utter retards like yourself. /endthread
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:55:07 PM No.17863459
>>17863274
Brunei proves you wrong retard
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:23:01 PM No.17863531
>>17862532 (OP)
Nordic model is the best system of governance ever conceived, deal with it chuds.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:30:51 PM No.17863554
>>17862532 (OP)
Great questions. The appeal of monarchism is similar to that of dictatorship, except you know that your dictator's children will be directly impacted by his decisions. A royal family can have vacation homes across the globe but their power will always depend on them being present in the country. Where a dictator can mess everything up and bail, a king has to more carefully weigh the impact on his own children. Which is a theoretically a powerful evolutional drive. It's about accountability. And people live under the illusion that democracy in some way makes politicians more accountable, but I've seen enough during COVID to be completely disillusioned with that.

>single party government
On the surface this resembles a monarchy but it's actually extremely different. Most parties run either on branding or on an ideology. If they run on an ideology, then the contest for power within the party becomes a contest of orthodoxy. Over time, the party will radicalize because being deeply rooted in whatever the ideology is, is a pre-requisite for power.
If the party runs on branding then it's basically just an oligarchy.