don't be happy that it's over. cry that it even ever happened in the first place.

Fake name indeed
Their real name was "Roman Empire"

>>17865312
No it wasn’t, that would be the Holy Roman Empire. The Greek larp project will never be Roman

>>17865314
>the frankish larp project was the real roman empire
What causes this kind of mental illness

>>17865318
The spirit of Rome was transferred to those that conquered it. The spirit of Rome must always be in Rome.

>>17865325
Cool story Mehmet

>>17865325
>The spirit of Rome was transferred to those that conquered it

So if an animal eats part of you they gain ypur soul?

>>17865318
>Doesn't speak language of Romans
>Doesn't follow religion of Romans
>Not same blood as Romans
>Doesn't control Rome
>Somehow Roman
That's like claiming if Britain fell than India would be the rightful successors of the British Empire.

>>17865423
Did the franks speak latin and have the same blood?

>>17863754 (OP)
Very aesthetic borders though

>>17865325
Wrong

>>17865410
Yes

>>17865488
They spoke a dialect of Latin colloquially and Latin as the official language of the state and church, and are substantially genetically closer, so yeah actually

>>17865537
>They spoke a dialect of Latin colloquially and Latin as the official language of the state and church, and are substantially genetically closer, so yeah actually
None of this is true; thanks for confirming your dishonesty

>>17865539
All of this is true; thanks for confirming you never even graduated preschool

>>17865550
The franks didn't speak latin; why did you lie?

>>17865554
Latin was the only official language used in the Frankish Empire. Why are you in denial?

>>17865564
Literary language is not the same thing as spoken language

>>17865623
And the predominant spoken language as well as court language was a Latin variant

>>17863754 (OP)
Christcucks will never be Roman. Seethe.

>>17865564
What did the franks actually speak though?

>>17865629
>Latin variant
So not latin

>>17865664
The upper crust of warriors would've spoken a Germanic language (perhaps entirely in the beginning), the clergy and most of the minor nobility spoke a Gallic Romance language. Charlemagne himself could speak rudimentary Latin.

>>17865648
New addition to my Luce cinematic universe, I've already got Satanist Luce, male Satanist Luce, and Odinist Luce

>>17865648
Jesus was Christian from the point of birth since he knew he was the messiah and he had a northern European phenotype.

>>17865564
Nope, Frankish, a Germanic language, was

>>17865530
Based Pope was correct. Made the little Gayreek seethe and piss his pants

>>17863754 (OP)
why /his/ hates this empire so much?

>>17865423
>not a Roman Emperor

>>17866257
Some people just like being contrarians

>>17863754 (OP)
Enrico Dandolo (PBUH) did nothing wrong

>>17865423
When Britain did fall America succeeded them.

>>17865325
Rome hadnt been the capitol of the combined empire, much less the WRE. What stupid fucking take. Losing washington DC wouldnt stop the USA from being the USA.

>>17865423
Followed the religion of the romans
spoke the language of the romans
were citizens of rome descended from citzens of rome. Controls the capitol of the combined Roman empire.

>>17863754 (OP)

Byzantium was the absolute pride of the world for 1000+ years.

>>17865629
was not an official language of the roman empire, and were of a people who participated in destroying the WRE. Why would you say people who destroyed something somehow were it?

>>17865834
why just come on here and lie.
Post the biblical description.

>>17866257
No idea why /his/ hates Rome.

>>17865314
Lost the Western half of their empire
Latin was not their main language
The emperor was more powerful than the church patriarch
Capital wasn't based in Rome
Produced no great works of literature
Modern day territory is now filled with Turks


Why did medieval Germans call themselves Roman?

>>17863754 (OP)
It happened because italic bulls conquered the region. The grekoids took over behind the scenes, and did they're best to not completely blow the lead and inertia built by the Roman man.

Byzantine history is a pathetic history of corruption, decline, and deceit

The hre-byz dispute was pretty funny sometimes

>>17866521
Longest state in history, chud. Sorry you hate Rome

>>17865312
Actually it's Eunuch Empire.

>>17865318
The Byzantines were effeminate oriental despots running a crumbling empire manned by eunuchs while the HRE literally controlled Rome and maintained its militaristic and civic spirit.

>>17865530
Imagine some Arab/"greek" """emperor""" tearing his hair out in anger and seething at the pope spitting straight facts XDDDDDD

>>17865554
French is a Latin language IDIOT

>>17866257
Degenerate eunuchs have no right to the name Rome.

>>17866637
The Byzantines were a humiliation and most degenerate form of what had once been the most glorious empire.

>>17863754 (OP)
Okay Edward Gibbon

>>17866525
I would have loved it if the Byzantines had tried invading Germany. Imagine the catamite horde being slaughtered in the balkans by a handful of Teutonic knights.

>>17863754 (OP)
The Ottomans were more Roman than the Byzantines.

>>17866650
it was a sprawling fueled state literally nothing in common with rome.

>>17866673
butthurt italian detected.

>>17866679
Knights didnt even exist when Nikephoros the second and Otto were alive.

>>17866670
did you know that after Diocletian they started having eunuchs in courts?

>>17866785
Debatable.
>>17866820
I'm not a fan of the late Roman empire either.

>>17866650
>The Byzantines were effeminate oriental despots running a crumbling empire manned by eunuchs
You can describe the earlier Roman Empire in the same way if you like being a retard.

>>17866820
barracks emperors and their autocratic tendencies have been a disaster for the roman race.

>>17866862
The whole concept of Knights is fairly nebulous until it isnt. Either way Nikephorous is far away from the Teutonic order

>>17867513
Thank Caesar. How can you really stop the idea of barracks emperors, when the most lauded individual in roman history was the first one.

>>17867537
Caesar and Augustus were not 'barracks' emperors. They were politicians who gained power through civil offices and commanded armies from these positions. That's about the exact opposite of a barracks emperor.

Honestly amazed thry lasted as long as they did. Just saying.

>>17867537
rome was totally fine during adoptive emperors period.

>this biggest metropolis on earth with the biggest christian church and community where every church teaching originated isn't true Rome
>my shithole of 5000 illiterate goths and germs who live amongst the ruins of constructions they dont even understand as arian peasants, is

mental illness

>>17867766
>this biggest metropolis on earth with the biggest christian church and community where every church teaching originated isn't true Rome
well it really isn't. you can't just pull translatio imperii concept off and expect people to buy it. translatio imperii doesn't really exist. it maybe would if there would be no western (co-)emperors after constantine. but there were. it's just greek cope.
>my shithole of 5000 illiterate goths and germs who live amongst the ruins of constructions they dont even understand as arian peasants, is
literally nobody claims that. any leftovers of roman empire vanished during gothic war with krautinggers and b*zantines.

>>17867868
>Emperor Constantine himself was wrong
>t. some online redditor

>>17867893
constantine changed the emperor's seat as many people before him. empire than existed for almost 200 more years with many emperors in the western part too. after collapse of the west, it doesn't give greeks right to say "guys... WE have been actually the rome all the time since 330!"

I just think it's neat.

>>17865312
>>17866525
>>17865530
It was medieval Greek Imperialum

>>17866688
>Islamic caliph have some claim
Sure dumb burgers

>>17866688
Is this ragebait or terminal contrarianism? It's hard to tell these days.

>>17863754 (OP)
Why wasn't rome reconquered? You'd think that'd be a priority.

>>17866663
>>17867308
>>17866521
Crusaders and Turkoman saw themselves as real Greek

>>17867868
>>17867766
>germ
Go back, melty hue

>>17868001
>emperor's seat
aka the capital
making Rome periphery
periphery gets conquered =/= government collapses

>>17865318
italy was part of the HRE, the true roman empire, even more roman, than under Augustus