How true is this historically?

>>17865868 (OP)
Thats wrong
They tried slavery with natives and it didnt work out
They literally brought african slaves cause natives where not effecient as slaves

>>17865914
Native Americans =/= Mexicans, even if there's some overlap

Blacks were so bad at picking cotton that the White Man decided to enslave an elementary particle instead.

White demons tried with indigenous

But natives are clever and can live off the land so they just escaped the first chance they got

Blacks had to be uprooted and placed in a strange land to be forced into slavery

>>17865959
They are half native
If you count lightskins as blacks then you might count mexicans as natives

>>17866072
Natives where retards who where just too weak and died in mass for slavery

>>17865868 (OP)
there was a big reason why rich fucks imported black slaves in massive amounts even when they run away, staged armed rebellions, did arson poison people and be general nuisance
they tried to enslave local natives but after introduction of afro/euro/asiatic diseases they dimply died, a lot, they also usually could just hop and run away
they tried with indenture servants but it they were also dying a lot in the hot zone to the point that nobody sane wanted voluntary get there so you get criminals, fanatics, poor and other refuse of society(all make bad workers), they also cost and demand more and you needed to free them after service and so they could start similar business and become competition if they lived long enough

>>17865868 (OP)
it’s literally a fact
they had to whip the shit our of black slaves to get them to do anything

>>17866072
Those red devils were violent savages. That's why they weren't taken as slaves. If those retards were so clever, they wouldn't have been slaughtered in mass, because they still lived in tents, wearing animal furs, with tools made out of sticks.

>>17866088
ESL mestizo monkey

>>17866196
>butthurt whitey defense force

They died because you larped as peaceful settlers while waging a secret campaign of genocide. You're unironically diet jews.

>>17865868 (OP)
Natives were used as slaves initially, and occasionally were sent to do slave labor even as late as the 19th century, but due to population collapse there weren't enough natives to satisfy the need so the whites started importing African slaves

>>17866248
What a faggot opinion. "Muh genocide!" They deserved what they got. We were peaceful, looking for a better life. When you have your villages and wagon trains burned without cause, your women and children raped and murdered, you bet your ass we're gonna slaughter the pests.

>>17866248
Natives that don't even know what private property is can't compete with competing global geopolitical interests that seek to use them and exploit them


the fact that there's any left after dealing with british, french, dutch and english is a miracle

>>17866367
>british, english
british/american

>>17866344
>>17866367
>blah blah white demon nonsense

everyone knows what you did lol. you should have gone back to britain instead of killing people and stealing.

>>17866389
You seem to not understand that the natives were used as guerilla fighters to kill american colonists, even the brits used them against us eventually

>>17866248
Most based post in the thread
>>17866344
>>17866367
>they didn't know what private property was
>also they were savages constantly fighting over ownership of land (private property)
>and that's why they deserved a genocide
If you've ever wondered what's in the Talmud it's just pilpul like this

>>17866248
I'm not saying either side is superior but you need to brush up on history. I would dare to say the natives even lost fair and square near the end.

>>17866248
Wignat trannies will seethe

>>17866072
Actually most would just become super depressed and squat down and wouldn't move no matter starvation or whipping

Why didn't they just import the Chinese?

>>17865868 (OP)
It's not like using natives was an option for the US. The spaniards were hogging the southern ones, while in the north there just weren't enough.
Not to mention the simple fact that africans were sold with a very strongly established market. Imagine trying to set up slaver gangs going into indian land or on literal raids beyond the border.

>>17866367
>Natives that don't even know what private property is
Where does this meme even come from. Natives knew perfectly well wha property was, which is why they were so keen to "sell" their rivals' land to euros so they'd go exterminate them.

>>17866166
You have to whip the shit out of anyone to get them to do unpaid labor. Hell even institutions that do technically pay for their forced labor (like conscripts/draftees in militaries) have to often be threatened with force to make them anything. I know for a fact if I wanted to make you grow cotton for me and not pay you, I'd have to use violence and the fear of violence to make you do it.

>>17866989
China at the time was both too far away for the mass shipping of human bodies (even Africa was pushing it with how many slaves died on the journey over), and China was also at the time closed off from such mass emigration while Europe was not yet strong enough relative to China to force them to do what they wanted like they would be in the 1800's.

>>17865868 (OP)
Mexicans weren't really for sale in the quantity needed for the work. Initially colonists preferred white indentured servants for this reason, but as quality of life improved in England and Ireland and the need for slaves increased there weren't enough white people alive to work all the fields in the Americas.

>>17867131
Natives pre contact only understood hunting grounds. They owned everything within their hunting ground communally. Other tribes had neighboring hunting grounds and scuffles broke out over these boundaries. But they never understood property. They actually largely rejected it and tried to fight it until be just gave up and shipped them to Oklahoma

>>17866075
>If x=y then surely A=B
No retard.

>>17865868 (OP)
not accurate at all

>>17866248
I take it back. Praise Israel!