Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:43:03 PM No.17867988
Was the 1845 famine a famine or a genocide?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:48:06 PM No.17867997
>>17867988 (OP)
It was a trick to punish the rebellious colonies by infecting them with an Irish diaspora
It was a trick to punish the rebellious colonies by infecting them with an Irish diaspora
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:48:52 PM No.17867998
>>17867997
Imagine how browner current day United States would be without the Irish injection.
Imagine how browner current day United States would be without the Irish injection.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:31:03 PM No.17868066
It was a famine, stemming from the Potato Blight which ruined a crop upon which a huge amount of the already famine-vulnerable population were dependent on.
Few if any historians (Irish or otherwise) would call it a genocide, but the blame for the deaths+suffering is quite squarely at Britain's feet. It's just that it wasn't all necessarily at the feet of the administration at the time it happened. To make it simple;
>Britain is responsible for running Ireland so poorly that it was so insanely vulnerable to this
>The administration at the time of the famine did indeed try to help, but their ability to do so was hamstrung by a combination of poor judgement and at times malice toward the Irish by some
Few if any historians (Irish or otherwise) would call it a genocide, but the blame for the deaths+suffering is quite squarely at Britain's feet. It's just that it wasn't all necessarily at the feet of the administration at the time it happened. To make it simple;
>Britain is responsible for running Ireland so poorly that it was so insanely vulnerable to this
>The administration at the time of the famine did indeed try to help, but their ability to do so was hamstrung by a combination of poor judgement and at times malice toward the Irish by some
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:03:16 PM No.17868124
>>17868066
I would also add that the poor judgment stemmed from the particular political beliefs of Britain’s leaders at the time—laissez faire and hands off beliefs ruled at the time. I also think the actions of the people of Britain towards the Irish is excessively downplayed. The average government official on the ground was begging the government for real action and felt great pity while the British public did give a lot of charity while also facing famine conditions, as all of Europe was at the time. Many millions were fed by private charity. The British public’s enthusiasm for charity dropped off as violence began occurring, along with the ill-fated, naïve rising that also occurred. Most of it can be attributed to the government’s poor response and the stupid idea that not obtaining food to feed the starving was actually a bad thing.
I would also add that the poor judgment stemmed from the particular political beliefs of Britain’s leaders at the time—laissez faire and hands off beliefs ruled at the time. I also think the actions of the people of Britain towards the Irish is excessively downplayed. The average government official on the ground was begging the government for real action and felt great pity while the British public did give a lot of charity while also facing famine conditions, as all of Europe was at the time. Many millions were fed by private charity. The British public’s enthusiasm for charity dropped off as violence began occurring, along with the ill-fated, naïve rising that also occurred. Most of it can be attributed to the government’s poor response and the stupid idea that not obtaining food to feed the starving was actually a bad thing.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:58:48 PM No.17868221
>>17867988 (OP)
It was the finally stage of imposing and agriculture on people whose land was only suitable to pasture
It was worse in Scotland where the land wasn't even suitable to pasture often and only for hunting so they were forced to cut down entire forests just to pay rent to their feudal lords
It was the finally stage of imposing and agriculture on people whose land was only suitable to pasture
It was worse in Scotland where the land wasn't even suitable to pasture often and only for hunting so they were forced to cut down entire forests just to pay rent to their feudal lords