lf you and l were sitting in an English study and you said to me "this study is beerless" l could look around the study, knowing what beer is, and observer there was infact no beer in the room.
lf you said the room was "spaghettiless likewise l could look around, notice a lack of spagheti and agree.
But yet if you were to look around the room and say
>"This room is meaningless"
l would have to ask you in response
>"What is meaning?"
On the most basic level; how can you notice the absence of something you have not defined??

True nihilism doesn't actually exist, it's a complete strawman. Even an atheist could argue that the meaning of life is life in and of itself or that whether or not life even has or needs meaning is in and of itself a meaningless question because we have no standard for what "meaning" actually is within the context of life itself

>>17870005 (OP)
>For those who say "life is meaningless" how do you know?
They literally can't know, because it's the dilemma of radical skepticism. If someone truly believed it, they would never argue for or against anything. Anyone making an argument or using language that implies that anything is better or worse than anything is already rejecting the premise of radical skepticism. This is true even if they employ radical skepticism as a tiresome rhetorical device against things they don't like and as a bludgeon with which to demoralize others in an intellectually dishonest way.

In other words, if they really believed radical skepticism they would shut up immediately and never speak another word in favor of or against anything. They wouldn't even use language at all in the first place, since the usefulness or meaningfulness of language for any purpose or context whatsoever would also be questioned. Any action of using language at all, and especially language that implies something is better, worse, or more, or less correct than anything else, immediately reveals the fact that these people do not accept the very conclusions they themselves apparently argue for.

In reality, it can be concluded that "radical skeptics" you encounter only want you to doubt something that they don't like, but they have nothing better to provide as an alternative so they are forced fall into this pitiful position of not explicitly being able to affirm anything themselves or offer any alternatives, but of only criticizing others.

>tfw no english study to contemplate life's meaning in

>>17870133
Ah so the truth shuts them up, nice

>>17870005 (OP)
the purpose of life is to move shit around. derive whatever meaning there is in that to your pleasure.

You can't just say "no meaning" like you’re checking for milk in the fridge. Meaning isn't an object... It is a framework. If you can't define it, you’re just edgeposting. Even a dog chasing its tail has more purpose than your half-baked existential crisis.

>>17870005 (OP)
>On the most basic level; how can you notice the absence of something you have not defined??
By paying attention.

There is a distinct smell that transports me right to my childhood. I have no idea what it is or what it reminds me of. But I know for a fact I smelled it a couple years ago on a street. And I know I'm not smelling it now. If you asked me for a definition, I could not tell you anything except tautologically insist that the smell from my childhood is the smell from my childhood. Definitions don't precede recognition. They merely codify it.

>>"This room is meaningless"
>l would have to ask you in response
>>"What is meaning?"
Meaning is intentionality. It's the property of being "about" something, and preferably about some underlying reality.
>X-Y=1
>X+Y=3
This is a meaningful set of equations because underneath them is the idea that X=2 and Y=1. However, those equations can be rendered meaningless when we realize they don't point to any actual underlying reality after all.
>X-Y=1
>X+Y=3
>Y+X=-1
This is meaningless. It isn't pointing to anything deeper, anything that stays invariable across individual events (equations).

In human life, meaning is defined by coherence, purpose and significance Your life being a consistent narrative, pointing towards something and that something being important. You might not have a language to define this just like an baby cannot articulate the word "milk" or "hunger", but your circuitry seems to respond to this fairly reliably.