Thread 17870209 - /his/

Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:54:54 AM No.17870209
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>why is there something rather than nothing ?
>what if the entire universe, everything you know and all your memories were created just five minutes ago
>what if you're just a brain in a vat ?
are we living in the matrix ?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:01:43 AM No.17870215
It's all quite ontological.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:48:36 AM No.17870272
>>17870209 (OP)
No answer to these question. You'll only hear copes.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:57:57 PM No.17870596
>>17870209 (OP)
You smoked weed again didn't you OP?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:53:07 PM No.17870877
>>17870596
i wish i did
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:56:23 PM No.17870884
>>17870209 (OP)
The universe is just a 5-minute-old LARP and your "memories" are procedurally generated cope.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:05:13 PM No.17871541
>>17870209 (OP)
inconsequential hypotheses are inconsequential, even if formulated as questions.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:13:58 PM No.17871564
helper investigates
helper investigates
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why are we conscious, why do we feel pain and pleasure and understand our thoughts

why did we never talk about this in school or anything, it is like we live in a world of NPC zombies to whom such things never occur
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:42:43 AM No.17872581
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There is something fundamentally puzzling we cannot grasp: Why does existence exist at all? Why does the universe unfold according to precise laws—like those of physics and logic? Why is everything the way it is?
If we could answer these questions, we might better understand reality itself, the workings of nature’s laws, and ultimately, discover where we truly are.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 4:58:22 AM No.17872721
>>17870209 (OP)
>why is there something rather than nothing ?
There just is. This is a fact that by its nature can't have an explanation. Even if the answer to "why does the universe exist?" is God, one can ask "Why does God exist rather than nothing?" And if the theist says it's logically necessary for God to exist, ask why does logic exist rather than no logic (and no everything else)?

>what if the entire universe, everything you know and all your memories were created just five minutes ago
But there is no evidence of that and endless evidence that things happened more than five minutes ago (for example the timestamp on your post saying your post is more than five minutes old). There's no absolute proof but all the evidence speaks against it and none for it so it's pretty easy to dismiss.

>what if you're just a brain in a vat ?
Since there is no evidence that the tech to give a brain in a vat a simulated life is actually feasible, you might as well go back to the Cartesian version "what if you're being deceived by a demon?" Both questions have about the same worth as saying "what if you're wrong about everything somehow?" without showing how. They're just too handwavey to actually be helpful. However if we could actually make brain-in-a-vats like the thought experiment proposes, there would be a real reason to worry that you are one (assuming their existence was very thoroughly demonstrated to you, you'd have to accept that either they exist and you could be one or they don't exist, which would also imply your perceptions are severely unreliable for one reason or another).
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 5:03:59 AM No.17872732
>>17871564
>why are we conscious, why do we feel pain and pleasure and understand our thoughts
It is mysterious. To be sure, it's obvious that our ability to be conscious and feel pleasure and pain is essential to our survival and that is why we have it. But that doesn't fully answer the question since we might still wonder, why do we feel things? Why aren't we like AI-powered robots that can "intelligently" carry out certain tasks but aren't truly self-aware or emotional or anything? My suspicion is it's impossible or highly unlikely for organisms to naturally evolve that way and that pseudo-conscious systems only exist as products of design, the same way animals don't have wheels. But then again, maybe it's entirely possible and just didn't happen in our case, and instead we got a form of intelligence that operates through conscious mental states because we got lucky (or unlucky depending on your perspective).

>>17872581
>Why does the universe unfold according to precise laws—like those of physics and logic?
The universe doesn't unfold according to the laws of logic. Logic is just something we invented to make arguments and proofs more precise and distinguish between valid and invalid ones. In fact, it's impossible to articulate what a real life violation of the laws of logic would even look like, which is by design. The laws of physics though, that's a real question. When we consider this, we must also consider how much of the world is chaotic and unpredictable. Laws only become evident the more you look at simple things interacting with other simple things. On the more fundamental levels of reality, entities are all very simple (things like fundamental particles) so that would seem to be the root cause of our living in a lawlike universe. Why is it that way, as opposed to the building blocks of the world being very complicated and making everything unpredictable? I don't know.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 5:43:40 AM No.17872800
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considering today happened why wouldn't it happen again
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 9:00:06 AM No.17873009
>>17870209 (OP)
>>why is there something rather than nothing ?
There is both something and nothing, something can't even exist without nothing, nothing is the only thing that can provide the balance (nothing moving) and stability (nothing changing) necessary for some things to emerge.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 9:16:22 AM No.17873033
>>17871564
>why did we never talk about this in school or anything, it is like we live in a world of NPC zombies to whom such things never occur
Most teenagers don't give a shit about philosophy, it's hard enough to make them care about their math assignments. People like to criticize school for not teaching 'critical life skills' like filing taxes as if you would be able to get a classroom of 15 year olds to give a shit.