Was he Russia's trump?

>>17870988 (OP)
>gave Russia freedom of speech
>liked to party a lot
>was a wealthy businessman
>got Putin into power
He deserves far more attention

>>17870988 (OP)
Unfortunately by using the T-word in the OP you made this thread politics and current events and thus not /his/.

>>17870988 (OP)
He was a corrupt US puppet who began the Oligarchial looting of Russia and killed Russian democracy before it could get up on its feet by bombing his Parliament. Putin's rise and consolidation of power is a consequence of both of these things.

>>17870988 (OP)
It's more like Trump is american Yeltsin.

>>17870988 (OP)
I feel like Trump is too patriotic for this comparison to make sense, Russia was full of Ameriboos. Despite what the media says, I don't think the feeling is quite as mutual.

>>17871037
Trump is literally russiaboo.

>>17871037
Back in 1990s America was still based. Today it is an LGBT infected woke hellhole.

>>17871040
I think he feels sympathy for Russians, I don't think he feels the same about Russia as Yeltsin felt about the United States
>>17871042
Giving third worlders internet was a mistake

i feel like Trump could have actually been a really cool president 20 years ago but now he's senile
we should ban people over 70 from running

>>17871059
>we should ban people over 70 from running
By the US Constitution, you must be at least 35 years old to run for President, this is why it tends to favor older people

>>17871064
Can we just abolish such an ageism?

>>17871064
35 is too young
70 is too old.

Presidents should be around 50

>>17871040
No anon, Trump did not go to a Russian hotel and recorded hookers pissing on him for Putin blackmail

>>17871059
>>17871064
its fucked
i can agree if you want your politicians to be over 30, fine
but you need to apply the same standards up
the inexperience of a man in his 20s is way less of a problem than the weakness of a man in his 70s, I don't care what anyone says
you would never have beat cop over 70
you wouldn't want a surgeon over 70
airline pilots are required to retire at 65
soldiers would not follow a commander over 70 into battle- generally- i know there's guys like Blucher
you'd hate working a job if your boss was an old incapable man

>>17870988 (OP)
Yeltsin
>The man who tried to save Russia from the damage wrought by the USSR
>Gave his people rights (arguably making the Russians citizens rather than serfs for the first time in history)
>Gave his people prosperity
>Gave his people Pizza Hut
>Once told a joke so utterly filthy that it made Bill Clinton blush
>Served to the best of his abilities until he was removed from power by corrupt oligarchs and their Monke servitor

Trump doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Yeltsin.

>>17871124
>Gave his people Pizza Hut

>millions of Russians fell below the poverty line or died as a result of the banditist 90s (suicide, murder, alcoholism etc)

>but hey he gave us pizza hut!

Kys. You are probably a London oligarch straight from the 90s

>>17871131
>Collapse of the state and criminal oligarchs leads to economic problems
>Better blame the guy trying to fix them!

Russia was always ran by Ameriboos. As early as 1959, Khrushchev and Nixon were holding public debates over the efficacy of their countries respective economic systems after Khrushchev saw what the average American house looked like in an exhibition showcasing American prosperity. Khrushchev would later go on to express his desire to visit Disneyland. Georgy Zhukov brought Coca-Cola into the country, obviously there's the famous story of Yeltsin being so impressed over an American grocery store that he tanked his entire economic system over it
The feeling just isn't as mutual, grifters like Tucker Carlson are seen as closer to Axis Sally's like Mildred Gillars and Rita Zucca that nobody takes seriously

>>17871143
>The feeling just isn't as mutual
Land-lease tells a different story or giving the Soviets half of Europe. The plebs may not have had positive feelings of Russia, but the masonic elite absolutely did.

>>17870988 (OP)
>>17871124
He was the Russian Carter, jovial and well meaning, but not the tough principled realist they needed at the time.

>Gave his people prosperity
The transition to free markets was a good thing, but it was almost inevitable at this point and he completely fucked up the process. The Russian mafia and corruption exploded, functionaries were routinely killed for not accepting bribes and selling state property for pittance to this or that upcoming oligarch, most of whom were Jews. The educated middle class fled the country. Child prostitutes lined the streets just like Weimar Germany and these grew up to be alcoholics and krokodil addicts and continue the cycle, assuming they have children because Russia doesn't even get the high birthrates that come with poverty.

Now Russia has the worst of both worlds, the terror and totalitarianism of the Soviet Union and the degeneracy and corruption of the liberal capitalists. /pol/ came to believe his successor was based, trad and opposed to "globohomo" because of his antigay stance, but in reality it exists solely to appease muslims, it is an example of him placing the will of muslims above those of white russians. Not that the will of white leftist degenerates is a good thing, just saying.

Russia needed a "war leader", a crisis leader, a Bismarck, an FDR, a Thatcher, instead they got a pushover.

>>17870988 (OP)
Yeltsin was chaos maxxing. Drunkenly stumbling through the 90s, tank memes, and shock therapy like a Slavic boomer Trump. Based? Cringe? Both? Dude handed power to Putin then peaced out. Now we're stuck with the consequences.

>>17871149
what are you smoking, russia was funneled money to beat the nazis at the cost of 20 million of their own people so the anglos wouldn't have to deal with a german dominated europe

>>17871149
Lend-Lease was a strategic wartime measure anon, the original name of the Lend-Lease act was literally "An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States". And the Soviets didn[t even get the most of it, most of it went to the UK. It just made strategic sense to arm the Soviets so they could help with their meat grinders against the Germans
Also, I think people often forget what the term "lend-lease" even means because it implies the US still maintained ownership of said equipment, although eventually said equipment depreciated enough to not be worth the cost of shipping back.

Why do americans hate russians for no reason despite russians simping for them hard?

>>17871153
Why do Russians always have to fuck things up?
>could have transitioned from czarist russia to democracy peacefully
>NOO, we need communism!
>*tens of millions die*
>could have transitioned like china from communism to capitalism in a smart way
>NOO, we need shock theraphy
>*millions die or flee*

It's baffling

>>17871165
Baffling or not, at least we're not Western cucks and do things our way!

>>17871165
China had the advantage of not being trapped in a wartime economy. Stalin was unable to transition the USSR to a Peacetime economy after the war was over because NATO was now at his doorstep and he refused economic assistance over power politics. The result was that the USSR had a growing and increasingly hungry Military Industrial Complex that ended up running the country outright by the late 80s, hence why they ended up transitioning to an Oligarchy, so the Soviet MIC could protect their own interests. It was a failure in foresight and leadership

>>17871174
>at least we're not Western cucks and do things our way
ive been in east europe a lot and its crazy how often you get this response when you ask simple questions about why you can't drink the water or street lights don't work

>>17871174
>and do things our way!

>by following a bum called Marx who never worked a day in his life and even despised Russia and said, they were the least likely candidate for communsim

>>17871165
>could have transitioned from czarist russia to democracy peacefully
>NOO, we need communism!
The libshit provisional government cucked out to the western allies and kept Russia in the unpopular war the Czar just got overthrown for. What did they expect was gonna happen?
>could have transitioned like china from communism to capitalism in a smart way
>NOO, we need shock theraphy
lol western libshit economists imposed shock therapy on Russia, Yeltsin was hoping for a Marshall Plan style bailout but he forgot Capitalists won and no longer had to make concessions and had a free license for gangster-like wealth extraction

>>17871195
Stalin was already offered his own Marshall Plan but he refused it, by the late 80s the political climate had shifted and that ship had long since sailed

>>17871195
> Yeltsin was hoping for a Marshall Plan style bailout
Why? Russian wasn't ruined by some war, also they were too proud to accept western help anyway (they still seethe about lend lease to this very day and deny that it saved their asses).

>>17871195
It's the biggest irony in history that the Soviets, one of the most paranoid regimes in history, who spent decades fighting anglo-imperialism, trusted them of all people and fucked their own people over. Russians are a joke.

>>17870988 (OP)
No, Trump is America's Boris Yeltsin

>>17871153
>President is responsible for the existence of criminals

>>17871336
>every country that shifts from communism to capitalism has to become a krokodil mafia state like russia, it's totally normal
so why did poland, estonia, east germany and the rest have no problem and only became more prosperous

>>17871372
Fewer Russians in those countries.

>>17870988 (OP)
Zhirinovsky was Russian Trump. A journalist once asked him about his Jewish father (because Zhirinovsky was pushing a Great Russian agenda), and he replied: my mother is Russian but my father is a lawyer. Nice dodge.
https://youtu.be/ydj123hwSTA

Folks let me tell you about BORIS YELTSIN! TREMENDOUS energy UNBELIEVABLE personality. The man knew how to WIN took down the SOVIET UNION like a CHAMP! Some PEOPLE say Donald he was a little WILD but HEY when you are dealing with COMMUNISTS you gotta be TOUGH!

Remember when he STOOD on that TANK? So BRAVE so STRONG! TOTAL alpha MOVE. And YES maybe he had a FEW too many VODKAS. Who DOESN’T? But he got the JOB DONE! RUSSIA? Big MESS even BEFORE Boris. He TRIED folks he TRIED.

Not like the LOSERS we have TODAY WEAK PATHETIC JOE BIDEN! YELTSIN? He had FIRE. And he LIKED me by the WAY. Donald he SAID you are the WINNER TRUE STORY!

>>17871446
>And YES maybe he had a FEW too many VODKAS. Who DOESN’T?
Was there ever any proof to the rumors that, while visiting Washington DC on a diplomatic mission, a drop-dead-drunk Yeltsin was found by the cops, in his underwear, running along Pennsylvania Avenue after dark looking for a pizza shop that was still open?

>>17871272
Soooo, he is dismantling the local Soviet government?
Or what else?

>>17871372
>webm
It's hard for today's generation to understand how fucked Russia was in the 90s. It's economy was Zimbabwe-tier and there was a complete social breakdown.

Say what you want about Putin, but he has objectively made things better, tho I suppose you could argue that anyone would have made it better.

Funny thing is that Russia actually tried to sell land in the 90s to quick-fix thrir situation. They offered Karelia to Finland and Kaliningrad to Germany.
I bet these states regret turning down the offers.

>>17871452
That really did happen. It is confirmed by Secret Service reports. It was in 1994. Everything you said is accurate except that he was trying to hail a taxi not walking to the Pizza Hut. Insane, right?

>>17871463
It was never Zimbabwe tier, that's just silly.
> I bet these states regret turning down the offers.
They dodged SMO bullet down the line.

>>17871008
Foreign firms often lost money because Russians would coordinate to keep them out of the good deal (or scam them). The people that made the most money either convinced Yeltsin or his daughter to play along with them

>>17871464
Alcohol does strange, and terrible, things to a man Anon. Wish him well on his journey.

>>17871185
>ive been in east europe a lot and its crazy how often you get this response
People from communist backgrounds often prioritize optics and perceptions more than reality and basic needs. They will tend to allow the government to walk all over them as long as it makes propaganda posters to make them feel good and imagine they are better than foreigners who might be actually much better off on average.

They basically like cherry-picked examples, such as juxtaposing one clean railway station in Beijing to a broken down subway system in America that no one ever uses because we all use cars.