Thread 17871656 - /his/ [Archived: 78 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:54:34 PM No.17871656
Martin-Luther
Martin-Luther
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Isn't it a little crazy that true christianity was born 1500 years after the death of christ?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:21:30 PM No.17871722
>>17871656 (OP)
The only true Christianity is that which existed before Paul utterly twisted/subverted Jesus's message after claiming to have hallucinated his ghost.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:27:14 PM No.17871744
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>>17871656 (OP)
Around the time of the "enlightenment" the catholic church embraced the heresy that non whites are called to be a part of the body of Christ like whites had always been.

That was the reason Protestantism in general happened, a reaction to the catholics trying to poison God to death.

eventually the protestants mostly embraced the same heresy, and the last vestiges of the original correct definition of Israel died out in the south within the last two centuries.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:38:06 PM No.17871783
luther
luther
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>hates jews
>worship jews
>hates himself

many such cases
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:39:39 PM No.17871792
>>17871722
>fell off his horse and had a hallucination
Christians, this is your guy?
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:40:15 PM No.17871798
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>>17871783
>worship jews
ews are the enemies of God, in rebellion against God and seeking to overthrow the Lord of heaven. Jews are anti-christ, the definition of evil.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:44:08 PM No.17871813
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>>17871798
yet you worship them

curious
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:49:57 PM No.17871837
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>>17871813
>you worship them
says jews who wish it were so
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:51:57 PM No.17871845
golem
golem
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>>17871837
>what christians say
>what they actually do
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:53:28 PM No.17871851
>>17871845
It is treason against the Son of God to support his enemies, God forgive them they know not what they do.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:54:05 PM No.17871855
>>17871656 (OP)
Luther himself thought the Catholic Church was basically fine until like the 13th century or so. Aristotelian influence is what he objected to most and where he thought the church started going off track.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:56:53 PM No.17871864
>>17871851
>bless those who bless israel

>god does not change

>actually I changed my mind in the new testament

why is this desert cult schizophrenic
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:05:20 PM No.17871884
>>17871864
I'll be fair and inform you that Israel in the New Testament is the Church/Followers of Christ, not the land of Judaea and Samaria nor the modern state of Israel in roughly that region
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:09:33 PM No.17871890
>>17871884
>inform you that Israel in the New Testament is the Church/Followers of Christ

Sure it is. That's why they had strict laws about race mixing. Totally just a church congregation bro.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:21:21 PM No.17871914
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>>17871722
The true Christianity is the one started by Peter and further developed by Paul, both based on visions of a celestial Jesus and mystical interpretation of scripture, before whoever wrote the first edition of Mark had the clever idea to make a meta-parable historicizing the celestial Jesus, which many people decided to take very literally and which was eventually coopted to rewrite Jesus into a more orthodox apocalyptic Jew by whoever wrote Matthew.

Meanwhile, the Gnostics were continuing along the path of visions and mystical interpretation, supported by philosophy, further developing the original Christianity, until everything was either destroyed or coopted and interpolated by people who wanted to use Christianity as a tool of control, and all the Christians who weren't aligned with that aim were deemed heretics and persecuted into near non-existence.

>inb4 "proof?"
It was revealed in a dream plus a lot of reading that is difficult to condense plus it taking a schizo to know a schizo to recognize what was going on with the new testament writers plus I'm actually only about 50-60% sure something like this is what happened but I do think something like it is a much more viable (and very interesting!) option than the current consensus considers it to be.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:32:18 PM No.17871947
>>17871914
>coopted to rewrite Jesus into a more orthodox apocalyptic Jew by whoever wrote Matthew.
Maybe orthodox isn't the right word there since I suspect the original Matthew may have actually been more aligned with the ebionites who had their own very interesting heterodox views, but it was a shift.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:51:39 PM No.17871983
>>17871947
I also think a group like the Ebionites were present from the beginning, though, like Peter and Paul, at that time they would've believed in a Messiah who was still on the way rather than one who had already arrived and left.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:21:59 AM No.17872063
>>17871914
>>17871947
>>17871983
tl;dr either the Ebionites or the Gnostics are closest to the true Christianity depending on whether you believe in a historical Jesus or a celestial/mythical Jesus.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:23:07 AM No.17872064
>>17871914
>>17871947
>>17871983
tl;dr either the Ebionites or the Gnostics are closest to the true Christianity depending on whether you believe in a historical Jesus or a celestial/mythical Jesus, but the case for a celestial/mythical Jesus is better than the consensus says.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:29:45 AM No.17872082
Atheism
Atheism
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>>17871656 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:26:34 AM No.17872200
>>17871813
>Pic
Those who identify as Jews today have zero connection to the ancient or Biblical Jews.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:29:21 AM No.17872211
>>17871890
The Old Testament Israelites were told in the Law that there were ways for strangers to join Israel. This was allowed under the Mosaic law. There are many prominent examples of this happening, such as Ruth the Moabitess in the biblical book of Ruth.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:42:13 AM No.17872252
>>17872082
Christcuckery is utterly cringe. Lunatics on the left, retards on the right. I'm right-wing myself but the high IQ economically literate and race-realist right is a small club.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:53:02 AM No.17872280
>>17871656 (OP)
>Isn't it a little crazy that true christianity was born 1500 years after the death of christ?
Isn't it a little crazy that literally no Christian holds that position? Have fun burning.
>>17872082
>Nothing makes me hate God more than to see people praying.
I'm so glad you're going to the burn pit.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:57:37 AM No.17872288
Luther is indirectly responsible for the increase in Witch Trials following the Reformation
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:01:56 AM No.17872293
>>17872288
Works for me. Witchcraft is an epidemic in the Jewnited States of Catholicism these days.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:04:13 AM No.17872299
>>17871656 (OP)
Christianity is nonsense

>Judaism invented in 3rd century B.C.
>Cult personality of the low classes in Rome
>Top down conversion as a weapon throughout Europe
>Democracy lets the slaves run wild
>Christianity is now law of the land

There is a reason aliens don't visit us
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:07:11 AM No.17872312
>>17872299
Have fun burning.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 6:20:17 AM No.17872858
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>>17871656 (OP)
I’d love to see real objections on /his/ to Protestant faiths like Lutheran or Anglican one day not this Latinx low iq pop apologetics garbage. Probably will never happen unfortunately.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 8:04:59 AM No.17872968
>>17872858
>doesn't address the argument
KWAB
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 8:09:15 AM No.17872971
>>17871656 (OP)
Isn't everything YOU believe a little crazy? If you're any kind of Christian I don't think you have room to criticize other Christians on the grounds of "that just seems silly."
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 8:24:02 AM No.17872982
>>17871656 (OP)
real Christianity was the friends we made along the way.