That "Hell" is a heresy from work of fiction called "Dante's Inferno" that the archonic Orthodogs church used to enslave and keep humanity like cattle from ever reaching true gnosis, and that King James VI and I of Scotland was a freemason (as was Francis Bacon) and the New World Order used God's word to control thecworld through the Vatican and the "Vatican Secret Archives" contains information that can implicate the church with all the blood they have on their hands. Get a Wycliffe NT Vulgate translate Bible, the Literal Standard Version of the Masoretic texts, Apostolic Bible Polyglot for the Septuagint, the Interlinear Hebrew-English Bible (J.P. Green or Westminster Morphological Hebrew Bible), the Zohar, the Kabbalah and the Gnostic texts (which you can find on gnosis.study).

>>17894429 (OP)
https://gnosis.study/library/Гнoзиc/Иccлeдoвaния/ENG/Kasser R.%2C Meyer M.W.%2C Wurst G._-_The_Gospel_of_Judas_from_Codex_Tchacos.pdf

>>17894470
Just search "Gospel of Judas," "Gospel of Thomas," "Pistis Sophia," "Gospel of Mary Magdalene" or whatever you want to read. Btw, the proper link for Judas is from 2006.

>>17894429 (OP)
Okay, but where do the fallen angels and Satan get sent to?

>>17894475
Pleroma (Heaven, meaning "fullness" from Greek Septuagint). Here's a thread you can read into (btw, "Satan" is a label, not a name; means "adversary" o t "accuser" - even archons have earthly manifestations, but their light will return to the source):

>>17892685

>>17894480
Except Revelations directly contradicts your "back to the source", so...?
Revelation 20:10:
>“And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”

>>17894487
1.) Hell (Gehinnom) is Temporary, Not Eternal

Zohar (Volume II, 150b)

> “Gehinnom is a tool for rectification (tikun)... The wicked stay there no more than twelve months.”

Isaiah 1:27

> “Zion shall be redeemed with justice, and her penitents with righteousness.”

2.) Purpose of Gehinnom Is Tikun (Correction), Not Retribution

Zohar (Volume I, 186a)

> “The punishment of the wicked is not to destroy them, but to make them aware... so they return to the Light.”

Lamentations 3:31–33

> “For the Lord will not cast off forever… He does not afflict willingly, nor grieve the children of men.”

3.) Souls Reincarnate to Repair Themselves (Gilgul)

Sha’ar HaGilgulim (Ari, ch. 20)

> “Most souls do not rectify themselves in one lifetime… they return again and again.”

Job 33:29–30

> “Behold, God does all these things two or three times with a man, to bring back his soul from the pit.”

4.) God’s Mercy Overrides Harsh Judgment

Zohar (Volume III, 254b)

> “When harsh decrees arise, the Shekhinah pleads before the Holy One… and mercy is aroused.”

Micah 7:18

> “Who is a God like You, pardoning iniquity… He does not retain His anger forever, because He delights in mercy.”

5. No Explicit Eternal Hell in Torah

Genesis 3:19

> “For dust you are, and to dust you shall return.”

No mention of torment after death—just physical dissolution.

Ecclesiastes 12:7

> “The dust returns to the earth… and the spirit returns to God who gave it.”

6. Torah Describes Sheol, Not Hell

Sheol in Tanakh is neutral—a place of rest, not fiery punishment.

Psalm 139:8

> “If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there.”

7. All Souls Have a Spark of the Divine (Nitzotz Elokit)

Zohar (Vol I, 11a)

> “Every soul is a flame from the divine candle.”

Proverbs 20:27

> “The soul of man is the lamp of the Lord.”

>>17894491
8. Even the Wicked Will Eventually Ascend

Zohar Chadash, Ruth 102b

> “In the end, all souls will return to their root, even those who sinned greatly.”

Psalm 145:9

> “The Lord is good to all, and His mercy is over all His works.”

>>17894491
You're using mysticism sources like Zohar and conveniently found "Gospels" outside the Bible to back your line of thinking. Let me ask you something - If Jesus/God wanted his word spread to all, why would he wait centuries later to have his works found, such as in the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Mary? He would want his pure word set in foundation to have salvation be discovered for all his children right from the get go. It makes zero sense and I would even argue that it goes against Jesus's intent to have these written works of holy salvation be hidden for so long.

>>17894504
Mark 4:11
>He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables

Matthew 13:10–11
>The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

>He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.

Luke 8:9–10
>His disciples asked him what this parable meant. 10 He said, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that,

>“‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’

>>17894504
Also, the Zohar is just a transiteration OF the Bible amd the gospels I spoke of are just the books that never made it TO the Bible because the Orthodicks and Catholicks rejected it as heretical. What's so difficult to comprehend?

>>17894507
Mark 4:11
>He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables
Which was for his chosen disciples, which were 12 men. This was at the time that The Bible wasn't even established, but Jesus came to establish himself to a few, both common people and disciples alike. This doesn't argue for "you only have secret knowledge that excludes everybody else" just that at the time they were the only ones chosen.
Matthew 13:10–11
>The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

>He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.

But it doesn't imply total knowledge of heaven and God's ultimate will. The disciples were informed and believing, no doubt, but even they still questioned Jesus's workings at times.
John 14:5–6:
>"Thomas said to him, ‘Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?’ Jesus said to him, ‘I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"
They came to know what was holy and good, but this knowledge was not in all totality of supreme hidden knowledge and all inner workings. Jesus always intended to have his words reach everybody, to be like the disciples that were the few that truly believed in him.

Luke 8:9–10
>His disciples asked him what this parable meant. 10 He said, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, ‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’
He was talking about at the time of his presence, later to be transcribed into The Bible for all to learn from. The people of the time heard Jesus speak of heavenly and good things, but most did not understand his words. God is always forward-thinking, he doesn't preclude the common man from hearing his words, he just showcases them for the future.

>>17894491
I usually think you are insane, but this post you are on point; based on a series of dreams that I've had, they've confirmed your account of things.

Have you not read the good book?

>>17894429 (OP)
>"Hell" is a heresy
heaven and hell are both on earth and non white demons are always trying to get in, but we don't issue and manage their souls anymore so they're destroying all of God's people and the shitting up the place

>>17894536
Well, wouldn't you say that this knowledge I'm speaking to you is a gift from God? Why reject it?

>>17894556
Which knowledge, though? From The Bible, yeah, I agree, but when you start going into other "sources" like the conveniently found centuries later is when I start to balk at it. It's like when I first delved into the Book of Enoch and saw that this shit had to be placed to mislead people.

>>17894585
You are fucking DUMB! Too arrogant and prideful to ever admit you're wrong about something.

>>17894429 (OP)
Tick tock.

>>17894605
What's the problem here? What issue do you have with what I said?

I tend to subscribe to the idea that "hell" is not a physical place, just separation from God upon death and therefore the death of the soul. The lake of fire in revelation is a different thing entirely, a specific punishment for Satan before he too is destroyed.

Human beings either follow Christ and their souls are reunited with God upon death, untill the establishment of the new kingdom and new bodies are created to live forever, or simply lost into nothingness forever

>>17894698
Because you keep making these vapid ass responses, denying everything I say, going off what you want to believe only.

>>17894716
I just want the good and wholly truth, unblemished from other malicious sources. Bottom line is that the word of God is free to all, and anybody who wants the secrets of Heaven and other things can receive them if they seek out God with their whole heart. There's no secret codex or secret phrases that precludes anybody, they're free to get it if they believe.

>>17894764
It's hidden in parable and allegory though but you are right to an extent. A lot of it is human interference and not from God (which the Bible predicted).

>>17894786
I agree, it's hidden as you said, BUT only in the original word of The Bible. The other found Gospels are to be discarded, like Thomas, Mary, etc.

>>17894842
Why is that? Who decided that?

>>17894899
God, of course.

>>17894706
I'm an unbeliever so my opinion is a bit moot, but I agree with your general take. It jives with the conception of a just and merciful god far more than the revenge-fantasy nonsense of Dante and other sadists.
>God respects your free will
>If you choose annihilation, he can't un-oblivion you and ask if you're sure or that'd be disrespecting that choice
A serene and supreme being would not begrudge someone for their ignorance, and simply accept they wish to cease to be. A petty and jealous robber-baron god akin to Ares or Apollo would seek to torture them in very human conceptions of misery and pain forever and ever.

The average person is a hylic with little understanding of the complexities of life on this earth so "Do as I say or you will eat poopoopeepee forever and ever" works on them the same way to an adult it's
>Eat a good meal because it is healthy for you and your health and wellbeing will suffer if you do not do so.
But for a child it's
>Eat a good meal or I will send you to bed hungry, spank you, use my slipper on you, ect.

And there are a lot of people with that child-like thinking that only pitchforks and fire will make them behave.

>>17894429 (OP)
Abraham had the book of Enoch. The book of Enoch talks about hell.

> I warned Sarah that she must tell everyone that I am her brother so that my life can be spared. She became scared and did not want to go to Zoan for fear of being seen. Five years later councilors of the Egyptians court and advisors of the Pharaoh of Zoan came, having heard the words of my wife. They brought gifts and requested knowledge from me. I read to them from the Book of the words of Enoch.