Thread 17894938

First was the Native American genocide, in which around 90% of Native Americans (in both North America and the Americas overall) were killed.

The second is the Holocaust. Whereas the Holocaust took place in Germany and Poland, from 1939 to 1941 (the US entered the war in '41) most of Europe, as well as some other territories, had already been annexed and/or occupied by the Axis Powers before the US was forced to enter the war by the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941:

Austria
Czechoslovakia (parts or whole)
Poland (western half)
France (partial)
Belgium
Netherlands
Denmark
Norway
Luxembourg
Yugoslavia
Greece
Albania
Ethiopia
Libya
British Somaliland
Korea
Manchuria
Parts of China
French Indochina (north)

The United States may have saved the Allies from defeat, but arguably (and I don't know the specifics on this) the war was to some extent a toss-up after the first two years. The Holocaust would probably not been as extensive and destructive, had the United States entered the war sooner.

The third genocide is Israel's genocide of Gaza. The United States is directly funding Israel to this day, although we know very well what they are doing, making the genocide in Gaza a proxy genocide by the United States.

Add to all this the American Civil War and you have a rather speckled history of the United States.

>>17894938 (OP)
>america did the holocaust on the jews during ww2

what is this jew babbling about?

>feel bad about herding the murderous, genocidal brownoid savages onto reservations so they would stop doing rape and murder
why on earth would anyone ever feel bad about that?

third one though, you have a point. really we should just nuke the whole middle east and save the world from all you retarded devil spawn

It makes me sad that I was never able to fight the Indians man to man. They were the noblest men in the world besides ourselves. Our victory was too thorough.

I forgot to mention that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was clearly a) a war crime and b) probably unnecessary.

By the time the US was considering using the atomic bomb on Japan, the European Axis powers had all unconditionally surrendered. The massive number of Chinese and Russian casualties to Japan, and the projected number of additional causalities being in the millions, was perhaps the main argument for using the atomic bomb on Japan. But Japan was the country that forced the US to enter the war, perhaps hastening an end to the Holocaust. Japan acting as a double agent in WWII was not unprecedented: the USSR had already switched from being an Axis power to an Allied power, with their invasion of Poland concurring with the Nazi Germany invasion of Poland (both invasions occurred in September 1939), and their subsequent war against the Axis powers.

So in theory the United States has two war criminals on their hands: FDR (president during the first two years of WWII) and Harry S Truman (dropped the bomb on Japan).

Where does that leave us today?

>>17894938 (OP)
>First was the Native American genocide, in which around 90% of Native Americans (in both North America and the Americas overall) were killed.
No they died because their immune systems lacked exposure to diseases from the Old World.

>>17894938 (OP)
>Native American genocide
The vast majority died from disease before the US was founded. There are more natives alive in the modern US territory today than there were at the time the country was founded.
>Holocaust
Nothing to do with the US
>Israel's genocide of Gaza
Not real

>>17894938 (OP)
>reads chomsky once
You'll graduate one day and your ameriKKKa phase will be behind you. Just travel and meet people from all over the country and realize that people today aren't worth hating over sins of their ancestors

>>17894938 (OP)
Why is the whole catalog full of turdies with ancient Cold War tier anti-Western talking points.

>>17894956
>They were the noblest men in the world besides ourselves.
Lmao. Injuns tortured women and children in the most brutal ways. They'd burn wagons with people tied up inside them. The comanches would skin a man's feet and watch him walk on hot desert rocks. Then you fags came in and threw them into pens like some kind of human livestock instead of wiping them out like every sensible conqueror in history.

There is nothing "noble" about the amerimutt-injun war.

It's way worse than 3 genocides lol

>Native American
A fair fight
>Holocaust
Meds
>Gaza genocide
Fake narrative

>>17894938 (OP)
Blaming the Holocaust on the US because they didn't intervene sooner is bullshit but the other two, yeah that's fair. Although in the latter case the American public is finally turning against it for what it's worth.

>>17894970
>clearly a war crime
How? They targeted military targets and asked the civilians to leave before

>>17895237
>A fair fight
Except poor native american had stone age weaponry and were nowhere as evil and depraved as the kkkolonizers to even think about invading other continent, exterminating the people there and resettling with your own

>>17895237
>Meds
American collaboration with Nazism is well proven and documented throughouy history tho

>>17895237
>Fake narrative
Our Communist and Muslim brothers have provided so mich proof, testimonies and even discourse from zionazi politicians about this to the point today anyone who denies it is simply ill intended, ignorant or both

>>17895329
>stone age technology
Nigger the Indians had better repeating rifles while the US cavalry was still using breech loaders

>>17895337
I am talking about first contacts here like 1600s and 1700s

By 1800s the world was quite globalized

>>17894938 (OP)
Both the Holodomor and Holocaust can be blamed on American business and banking, although both are also exaggerated. Counting 90% of Natives is retarded. What's happening in Gaza counts

>>17895329
>Pakistani
>Our Communist and Muslim brothers
Holy fuck lmao

>>17894938 (OP)
Who is this 'US' you are trying to blame? The people living today who weren't even born during any of the events you talk about? If you are a retard who believes that every generation is guilty for all the sins of all their ancestors, how far back does this retarded blame game go? Are we all guilty when our shared ancestor Thog, brained Gog over who gets to chew a pig rib 100,000 years ago? Do you blame your neighbour because an ancestral tribolite we evolved from billions of years ago stole some plankon from another?

>>17895492
Your mockery does not change reality, US ia responsible for 3 major genocides

>>17895858
>US killed the jews during the ww2 holocaust
this is the justification jews use to murder the whites of north america

>>17894938 (OP)
>Native American
They died due to Mr. Smallpox.
>Holocaust
Blaming the Holocaust on the US because they didn't intervene sooner is bullshit
>Gaza genocide
Fake. The "Palestinian genocide" is no more real than white genocide

>>17894938 (OP)
>First was the Native American genocide, in which around 90% of Native Americans (in both North America and the Americas overall) were killed.

constantly hear about this here in college. looked it up and there were less than 10k indians living in my state when the first American pioneers showed up. a few decades later they chimped out and sided with the confederates during the civil war and were exiled from the state. never heard the end of how it's their homeland since time immemorial (French settlers were literally in the area before half the tribes even migrated here lmao)

>>17895151
why isnt the genocide in gaza real?

>>17896402
Because the US supplies Gaza with money just like Isreal

>>17895858
Release the hostages, Ahmed.

>>17894938 (OP)
The US is responsible for
1). The Native American genocide.
2). The Armenian genocide.
3). The Holocaust, in the same way it is responsible for the Armenian genocide.
4). The Gaza genocide (ongoing).
5). White genocide (ongoing).
America is evil.

>>17896864
Zionazi politicians in occupied Palestine say outright and proudly they are mass murdering babies and flattening Gaza

The perpetrators admit their own crimes, anything hasbaras like yourself claim is invalid

>>17895222
eyesore map, didn't read

I lick poop

>>17897092
>didn't read
nobody expects amerigolems to be able to lol

>>17897467
its you're problem, not mine

>>17895222
Non sourced emotional propaganda.

>IThe United States may have saved the Allies from defeat

the only ones the US saved from defeat were captured high ranking nazis who were allowed to surrender to the west and become future politicians, generals, scientists - even NATO leaders.

>>17894938 (OP)
The holohoax didn't happen, retard. The kikes made that shit up to play as victims against whites.

>>17895342
What other Disney movies do you get your views from? Clearly Pocahontas is a primary source in your mind. By the time the colonies were doing any meaningful expansion against native Americans they were well versed in European ways, utilizing and trading for European technologies and even forming meaningful treaties with major European nations. Hardly the work of incompetent fools. If the US genocided them, then every country on the planet is founded on genocide, and we should really just all apologize to each other and move on.

>>17894938 (OP)
Man genocide sure is awesome

>>17895162
Am I the only millennial that never had a Chomsky phase?

>>17894938 (OP)
The native American genocide is way overblown. We completely overestimated their population because they had multiple settlements for the same group.
Genetic sequencing also suggests that they didn't die in huge wars or anything.

The only genocide America is directly responsible for is the extinction of the white race.

>>17895210
Gigabased on all counts.

>>17895162
I’m really glad I got that shit out of the way in middle school. Like I don’t get how anyone could spend most of their life just crying about how awful they were for something they didn’t do.
>inb4 you benefit from it
Yeah as does every nation that exists on land that was once inhabited by another people, but you don’t see anyone weeping for the Gauls or the fucking Iceni.

>>17898020
The Gauls were 2000 years ago you mong. Natives were being sterilized in the 70s.

>>17897786
Based. Denying the enemy his brightest minds was a brilliant move.
>>17898002
>it wasn't a genocide when we showed up and shot at you
>Stacy not going to prom with me is the REAL genocide
Whites are basically just Jews with smaller noses.

>>17894938 (OP)
I am glad genocide as a concept it slowly losing its shock Factor. Now it's just another way of saying killing a lot of people instead of a great moral sin.

>>17898063
I think the issue is the UN's definition of "Genocide" isn't just the act of Genocide, but the mere intention or attempt at it regardless if it's successful or not. And this is a useful definition when evaluating the actions carried out by states but the average person isn't going to understand this.

>>17898024
So you acknowledge there's a time cutoff, but 50 years isn't there yet. And a few thousand women being pressured into sterilization for welfare benefits both counts as and resets the clock on centuries-earlier conquest.

Any of this apply to non-Western civilizations, incidentally?

>>17898028
The Indian population collapse was mostly accidental and unavoidable; settlers did more damage selling them guns to kill each other than they did with direct fire. The current white population collapse is deliberate and took a great deal of effort.

>>17898063
>>17898069
They redefined it from
>(trying to) kill literally all of them
to
>not letting them speak their native language in school :'(
to try to implicate Western powers in any incidental erosion of culture, religion, or genetic purity whatsoever. Like most bullying attempts, this just diluted the term to uselessness.

>>17898069
That's not genocide then. Its like the same argument that one lady used against Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt to define 'hate speech' at UCLA I believe. pretext or rhetoric isn't violence and never will be.

>>17898028
You trying to make a point here or something? Because it seems like you're being extremely disingenuous.

>>17897056
May we see it?

>>17895162
/thread

And now the US is genociding its own people. Its entire system is a blood juicer.

>>17895210
This all sounds like reddit tranny screeching, torturing your enemies is based, in fact I'd say they didn't do it enough

>>17898438
white people all need to become ugly as shit mulatto niggers as punishment

>>17897825
>Christianity
>Catholicism
Catholics are not Christians lmao. Catholics are nothing more than demon-worshipping pagans and the Catholic Church was founded by Satan, not Jesus. The church Jesus founded was not an earthly institution, but rather a collective name for his true believers, all of whom are not Catholic.

>>17898538
That's racist. 100,000 Somalis are being sent to diversify your neighborhood as a reward.

>>17898516
>muh ridit
Tourists trying to fit in will never pass for oldfags.

>>17894938 (OP)
>wahh you didnt start fighting moustache man sooner and save da jooz!
i wish we never even got involved in yurop at all
we'd have been fine just making 2 new suns over gook land and nothing more.

>>17896146
haven't seen this pic in 12 years lmao