Why did atheism not thrive in Gen-Z?

>>17897254 (OP)
Gen Z tradcaths are just atheists who LARP as believers. It's all politics to them.

>>17897254 (OP)
All white zoomers became trannies and ACKED themselves, now only brown bvlls remain.

In the past Christian conservatives were the ones who were obsessed with censoring and banning media that they didn't like, which made atheism cool among younger people. But now it's secular progressives who are censoring and banning everything.

Atheist itself is incapable of thriving in times of distress

Every atheist is just a spoiled brat who never hada real struggle

>>17897264
That's just American culture, honestly. Which springs from their Protestant upbringing which propagates that everything outside of their dogma is bad.
JD Vance was an ex Protestant who wrote a book about how the bunker mentality promoted by Protestantism is what led to damages in his family as when his uncle voted a candidate he didn't like, he felt betrayed. He is a Catholic now

While Protestants were howling over satanic lyrics in media, the Pope blessed the Pokemon movie for promoting Friendship

>>17897254 (OP)
Games without rules aren't fun. I converted to Catholicism from an atheist family, but was disappointed that my local priests and the bishop all are hippie fags and the church is slowly dying.

>>17897254 (OP)
What's your model?

>>17897307
One thing I learned in my journey is that you should not expect too much.
In fact, expect to be disillussioned. The Church would always be a disappointment because we are corrupted. They have God's guidance right in front of them and yet, they still act like ordinary people, which would always disappoint

But nevertheless, God allowed them to have that position and we have to respect that.
Even Jesus had to be baptized by someone inferior. The Law and the proper chain of command takes priority over personal opinion over the person.

Their duty is to deliver the sacraments. Everything else can be ignored

>>17897254 (OP)
I mean chinlet basement dwelling neonazi white male zoomoids larping as a crusader because of their eu4 playthrough is not evidence of a supposed mass conversion

Most white teenagers still heavily secular

The only true judeochristians, who genuinely believe in their religion, are evangelicals

Cucktholics are either census boomers who don't give a fuck or neonazi zoomer larpers who are actually atheists but just call themselves catholic because muh evropa aesthetics or something, none of these groups care about the emaciated effeminate zionist rabbi

>>17897254 (OP)
Since atheism by itself is just one position on one topic, though it's one position that happens to knock-down Christianity which is the dominant religion in the west, in order for it to spread an alternative to Christianity had to provided along with it -- another "religion."

And unfortunately the religion it got incorporated into seems to have been physicalism (for the metaphysics) and the social justice movement (for the values and community). And that pretty much amounted to religion but with all the annoying parts kept in and all of the meaningful, spiritual parts left out. Which is pretty pathetic.

I still think atheism is right as a position in itself. I just think it needs a better "religion" to be incorporated into before the masses will accept it.

30,000 people are experiencing the new birth everyday

>>17897254 (OP)
I have yet to see a traditionalist Christian zoomer go to fucking church

>>17897602
Every moment spent in church is a moment not spent on 4chan saving fellow anons from the eternal fires of hell.

>>17897623
Your own soul is unsaved and will be burning in the pit if you don’t go to church.

>>17897634
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his frens.

>>17897254 (OP)
>Why did atheism not thrive in Gen-Z?
After whites got the internet it was over. That's why christjews had to unleash their golems on the west

>>17897256
They're in good company, if that's the case.

>gen Z has the highest percentage of beaners
>beaners are more likely to be religious
>it's catholicism that's popular with them, not protestantism
Hmmm

>>17897254 (OP)
>Gen Z (those born roughly between 1997 and 2012) is more likely to identify as atheist or agnostic than previous generations. While a significant portion still affiliate with religious traditions, a notable increase in atheism and agnosticism is observed within this generation.

Tradcath larpers on twitter are not reflective of real life.

>>17897644
You don’t know anyone on here and have done the bare minimum to help them nigga. Your soul is damned to purgatory at best

>>17897254 (OP)
The biggest gathering of polytheists and idol worshipers outside of India...

>>17897254 (OP)
4chan and Xitter aren't representative of the general public.
Gatherings of religious fanatics aren't representative of the general public.
Zoomers are the least religious generation yet, but of course there will be virgin edgelords who want to rebel against their loving, tolerant and progressive parents by LARPing as fundamentalists.

>>17897291
What about Britain having thought crimes?
https://adflegal.org/article/uk-army-vet-appeals-conviction-for-praying-silently-near-abortion-facility/
https://adfinternational.org/en-gb/news/silent-prayer-two-tier-policing

>>17897703
Britain is a dystopian 1984 hellscape, but it's pretty reasonable to expect not to be harassed by religious extremists directly outside of medical facilities.
This is the norm globally apart from your shithole, the USA.
If I stood 5 meters away from your front door 14 hours a day, while telling people you're evil and they shouldn't visit you, is that merely a thought crime?

>>17897709
In November 2022, Adam was silently praying near an abortion facility. He had his back to the building to make it clear that he was not trying to disrupt anyone’s privacy.
Adam was praying for his son, whom he lost to an abortion 22 years prior. He was also praying for the men and women facing difficult decisions about abortion that day.
Put more plainly, Adam was being punished for a thoughtcrime, standing and praying quietly inside a censorship zone.

>>17897711
That's total bullshit and we both know it, since you won't engage in good faith and will lie about what actually happened based on an article from a far right propaganda group, there is no point continuing to argue with you

>>17897715
I didn't realize the Alliance Defending Freedom was a far right group. I thought they were like the ACLU

>>17897711
>November 2022, Adam was silently praying near an abortion facility.
I doubt this is true. Christcucks are rarely if ever "silently protesting" and never honestly.
>>17897703
This is mostly about the Anglo American world. In the rest of Europe most people are atheists but never the reddit kind, they don't worship science, care little about religion, may (as in Italy) identify as catholic and may even go to church as a social gathering but don't few believe and even fewer practice.

>>17897256
Do you really think it's impossible for them to have genuine faith? I've met many younger people who seem to genuinely believe in Christ and the Church. I don't think it's impossible.

>>17897703
UK is Protestant
Protestants are always prone to the dogma of holier than thou, which leads to the exact same downward spiral of "protecting you from yourself"

>>17897254 (OP)
It does, Gen z (in the developed first world) is still overwhelmingly secular and mass attendance is still declining across countries which matter and aren't shit holes
The Catholic Church is in notable free fall in Ireland and Poland, two former strongholds which have stopped being poor and shit and have advanced to a higher stage of civilization

>>17897623
Why do zoomers love the gayest looking cat pictures so much

>>17897783
>he can tell if cats are gay

>>17897650
Rofl. I got that painting (full width) screen printed on a board and then had it blessed. I shit you not. It isn't too big but it lives on the wall at one end of my dinner table.

Next acquisition is a good (and large) reproduction of Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks for reasons. I'm not sure how I want that one buffed though.

For the lulz brother!

>>17897792
Just look at it

>>17897258
thanks for that personal headcanon of yours

>>17897282
Kind of similar to feminism which is just radical atheism for broads.

>>17897291
>yes, i, Ivan am going to tell how (you) are!

>>17897254 (OP)
how new are you? remember "atheism+" and all athiests everywhere being cancelled for islamophobia? they did it to themselves

>>17897336
Atheism, in it's lacking of any rules or accountability, would be easily spread and quickly adopted without need for flavoring if not for its conspicuous lack of substance. As it stands, atheism amounts primarily to being a contrarian movement against Christianity, which gives it a religiosity in and of itself. Moreover, the science fiction fetish of recent decades has been closely aligned with atheist ideas, which made it trendy for people of all ages to distract from faith in order to pursue vain technological ambitions. If you need more than the entire sci-fi phenomenon to be the catalyst for your ideas, then their failure to stick is on the basis of merit. Faith lasts longer for those who have it, even in a modern world which is openly hostile against it, and that's got nothing to do with it being part of any specific religion.

>>17897634
Salvation comes from faith in Christ, not from a church.

>>17897291
What a retarded post. I hope you yourself are American and lacking in exposure to other cultures to realize how seriously Americans take free speech and expression.

>>17897291
It's like you think people want to be like JD Vance or something, or that Christians respect him for that matter. The pope is a very shallow thinker btw.

>>17897724
>the rest of Europe most people are atheists but never the reddit kind
pffttt

>>17897256
>Gen Z tradcaths are just atheists who LARP as believers.
Just because you're cynical, nihilistic, impotent and utterly incapable of believing in anything sincerely doesn't mean that others are the same, anon.

>>17897877
They wouldn't be ebin tradcaths if it didn't offer them a feeling of superiority and power through being so fvcking zased.

>>17897316
>They have God's guidance right in front of them and yet, they still act like ordinary people
A testament to how bad God's guidance is.

>>17897817
Why do you left wingers think everyone who disagrees with you is a secret Russian? It's like right wingers calling anyone who disagrees a secret Jew

>>17897894
Why do you assume anyone who calls out foreigners telling you how your country is must be a leftist?

>>17897877
>you're cynical, nihilistic, impotent and utterly incapable of believing in anything sincerely
This describes nu-trads to a T though.

>>17897254 (OP)
Unironically because they're genuinely stupid. I'm not one of those people who thinks religious people are dumb, far from it in fact. Many smart people are religious. However, not many religious people are smart. Does that make sense? 90% of Gen Z believers believe because all their friends and family do, and they don't want to be left out. But naturally, due to zoomers being literal retarded fucks, they turn religion into another fad. They post about Jesus/Muhammad/Krishna on social media instead of going to church.other place of worship. And they brand anyone who disagrees with them as a "reddit atheist" making it uncool to diverge from their beliefs. It's all a fucking popularity thing. Keep in mind gen Z is also the most anti-intellectual anti-art generation we've had in a while, so they don't want to discuss things or challenge their worldviews. I'm not religious myself, but I do have quite a fondness for some religions. However, gen Z makes a mockery of all of this, and I think they might kill religion for good.

>>17897923
>Another retard on the spectrum fell victim to OPs Loaded Question instead of critically breaking it down and calling out his bullshit

>>17897888
The Church is just an organization like any other.
The only difference here is that we know the Truth and we are aware of how short we are of God's standards

Which also means that we are going be judged much harsher.
Knowledge comes with responsibilities

>>17897332
There was never a "JudeoChristian" that is just a term invented by politicians in the 1920's because they wanted an alliance between Jews and Christians

>>17897932
Christianity ia inherently a shabbos goy cult idolatring a zionist rabbi as a god

The only thing wrong about the judeochristian term is that is a bit redundant

>>17897932
The funny thing about retards like you is that modern Jews don't actually have any qualms towards Jesus, they consider him Jewish in the same sense that they consider 99.9 percent of the population "honorary Jews" who follow the Laws of Noah, the main difference is that they just consider Jesus a man who has no divinity and just taught what are essentially just reformed Jewish teachings

>>17897947
>modern Jews don't actually have any qualms towards Jesu
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17897949
They don't. They literally have no reason to. Go outside and touch grass my guy

>>17897932
Cope

>>17897949
>HAHAHAHAHAHA
Anyone who does this should get instabanned

>>17897951
We have entire records of Jews spitting on Christians, lad
They always hated Christ. They just know that they don't have the power to do the same shit again

>>17897947
Who actually says this? YouTube grifters?

>>17897955
If you are an obvious Christian in Jerusalem you will be spat on.

>>17897960
If they have the power, they would do it everywhere
Such are the fruits of self-worship. Jesus is a stumbling block

>>17897254 (OP)
It did though; are we at the point where christianites just ignore reality?

>>17897960
There are nearly 200,000 Christians in Israel anon, and that number has grown in recent years.

>>17897957
Everything you know about Jews comes from /pol/ schizographs

Zoomer here, things might be different in America, but what you are describing is mosltly a thing that is confined to social media.
Most normie zoomers are a-religious or at most spiritual but not religious types
What ever part of the trad cath trad christian stuff spills over to real life is either larp, preformative or a desperate atempt to get some type of identity out of it (identity is something my generation does strugle with). It is true that there is an increase in zoomers going the trad cath route but the caviat is that most of them don't believe it.Sure they will go through the converts' eagerness phase and try really hard, but what non of the xitter trad accounts will tell you is that most of these trad zoomers end up leaving christianity 6 months to a year later. Why? Because they have been promissed a bunch of things and christianity (especially catholicism) failed to deliver on any of them.

>>17898067
>at most spiritual but not religious types

These and New Age people are also obnoxious, annoying and astroturfed by Rockefellers.

>>17898071
That might be the case, but the matter of the fact is the great christian zoomer resurgance is just not a thing in real life.
In fact I expect that the trad cath is going to pass sooner rather than later

>>17897254 (OP)
Tradlarpers posting Mary and beardman quotes doesn't represent GenZ as a whole retard. Get out of your twitter/4chan bubble and look around.

>>17898098
This, you have to be terminally online to thibk gen Z is christian

>>17897254 (OP)
gen z critical thinking is a major factor, they realized that spending eternity surrounded by n*g*ers and pedohomo priests is peak performance

>Zoomers are becoming more religious!
>:D
>because most Zoomers are now Arabs, Mexicans and Africans
>:(

>>17897254 (OP)
Mainstream gen Z barely know the difference between reality and social media performance. You have to wonder if the god or gods they worship on tik tok have any relation to the "real" thing.

>>17897782
>higher stage of civilization
Such as?
>>17897851
How do you get baptized and receive other sacraments?
If you believe in Christ you will believe in the Church he founded.

>>17897254 (OP)
No it didn't. However, it has t be said:
Atheism as a movement and not just an aspect of something bigger was basically a uniquely American phenomenon. It could only exist in the U.S and in very specific conditions. Those conditions just don't exist anymore. So Atheism went back into just being a single element of wider belief systems.
Lots of confusion began when Americans turned atheism into another confessional religion.

cuck

>>17897254 (OP)
Zoomers are unable to think for themselves, they just base their opinions on what they saw on social media. They never went to church or opened a bible but think a jewish tranny nailed to a stick is based because nick fuentes said so

>>17897877
Ask them the reasons they chose their faith, if they talk about shit like tradition and culture they aren't real Christians. There's a reason they go for the aesthetic branches like Orthodox and Catholicism instead of protestantism.

Gen Z is largely atheist, twitter is not a real place.

>>17897254 (OP)
Atheism has thrived in gen-z; they're just not vocal about it like millenials were. Why?
Because atheism won; Christianity has become irrelevant to their lives so they don't even talk about it anymore.

>>17897742
Yeah there's always retarded people who believe nonsense.

>>17897944
Islam historically was far more philosemitic than Christianity up until the last century.

>>17897332
"Judeochristian" is like saying "carnivore vegan".

>>17898161
Christ didn't found the Catholic church.

>>17897928
No. It is not "just like any other".
It is God's organization under his direct guidance and purview.

>>17898395
judeocristian is like saying homo faggot, same thing

>>17898540
Why did God change his mind on the death penalty after four thousand years?

>>17897307
>but was disappointed that my local priests and the bishop all are hippie fags and the church is slowly dying
So you've basically just confirmed what >>17897256 said. You don't give a shit about the magic Jew. It's all about owning the libs to you.

Nothing special about it. Kids rebel against their parents and do the exact opposite of what they're told.

A story as old as time.

Gen B will be full-blown fedoras again.

>>17898662
>The generation of betas will be atheists
lol. lmao even.

>>17897291
>the Pope blessed the Pokemon movie for promoting Friendship
According to google's ai, not just the movie, but the whole franchise.

>>17898395
you literally worshipped a jew

>>17897742
>t. Gen Z tradcath

>>17898209
I would agree that many zoomers choose Orthodoxy or Catholicism as a larp, but either way protestantism is false historically and Biblically. I would debate this if you care.

>>17897742
>le epic beardman
sure showed him

>>17897650
>>17897802

Hey there tradcaths!
Reminder If you
>dont firmly support all actions taken by all of the popes and the catholic church
>dont go to church EVERY SUNDAY and participate in church events
>dont donate to the church
>dont regularly kneel down and pray privately
>ever watch porn without feeling shame and going to confession about it
>are not hard working and diligent
>insult and berate people with different opinions online
>dont pray for the salvation of people who oppose you and instead just sit around fantasizing about them burning in hell
>are not willing to forgive people for all kinds of past sins so long as they repent
Then you're a fake ass fraud, and its fashion not faith to you. Most of these apply to Protestants and Orthodox too so you're not weaseling out of it that way either. If you want to be Christian you have to actually follow the teachings of the bible.

>>17899027
forgot some big ones like
>turn the other cheek
>be kind to everyone
>donate to charity
>do not be envious
>love and help your friends family and neighbors
Larpers love to respond to ideas like this(fundamental tenants of christianity since its origin) like this with random quotes about israelites defending themselves from marauding armies or not letting people with no interest in redemption corrupt or exploit their churches as if they contradict or disprove them, or make the opinions of the actual catholic church and all of the popes invalid.

>>17897254 (OP)
I miss the Sudaca pope already. The Amazon synod was top trolling. He just brought a retarded groove that Euro-American catholics just can't live with.

>>17897256
FPBP. Very few, if any, are converting because they have serious religious convictions. Most of them are just they because they hate secularism and/or because they think it will be a place to find some pure virgin to marry. That's why they all immediately hop on the debate bro train and start trying to argue with people after a month of going to church.

>>17898540
Keyword on guidance
Being guided doesn't translate to breaking one's freewill

Being a teacher in the Church doesn't grant you immunity or safety. In fact, it does the opposite. It gives you responsibility and you will be made accountable for neglecting or rejecting God's will

>>17898548
He never did
Jesus still advocates for it wholeheartedly. Hence why the Jews suffered MASSIVE catastrophe just 40 years after Jesus left

We ban Death Penalty not because it is inhumane, but because there's too many cases of wrongful deaths.
And by too many, i mean the fact that it even happens at all

>>17899821
So? You don't ban penicillin just because some people have allergic reactions and die

>>17897254 (OP)
A quarter of Mexico lives in America, and over half of Puerto Rico.
Gen Z isnt white, and only whites are "atheists"

>>17899942
No, a single innocent death causes distrust in the justice system
What's more is that, if you gave the government power to kill its citizens, it would always find a way to kill the inconvenient ones

>>17898510
But there is apostolic succession between the apostles and the church fathers via Polycarp

>>17900133
NTA but the evidence for this is apparently questionable
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/15999

Catholics stopped raping kids and apologized for it, while Protestants stopped electing presidents who talked about how god wanted them to bomb Iraq
(Biden and Trump are no less bloodthirsty, but them being secular about it means it doesn't have the same discrediting effect)

>>17900205
The Apostolic Succession is merely the continuation of the Rabbinic Succession that Jesus himself undergone

To be a Rabbi requires Semikha from another Rabbi. This is a succession that links all the way to Moses. Jesus requiring John the Baptist's Semikha in order to become a Rabbi is a testimony to the fact that the chain was never broken

It was never broken then
And it will not be broken now

>>17900133
That doesn't hold any water for your falsely claiming Jesus founded the Catholic church when he plainly didn't. Polycarp is not a biblical figure btw.