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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here.

Remember to keep discussion on-topic as much as possible.

>>7569824 (OP)
Is that AI?

>>7569836
no. use your saucenao tools…

Im a /beg/ and I draw big tit anime girls at work. Some people have seen my titty fox and wolf characters I like drawing and offered to commission me. So far I've gotten offered money to draw a tattoo of a clown holding 2 1911s, 20 bucks for a shitty lion, and some art for a birthday card. I legitimately don't see what normies see in regards to my art beyond "he just draws, lmao"

The industry wants me to draw coomer bait. But I'm not playing by their rules.

>>7569836
Get the fuck out of /ic/, blind retard

>>7569854
Considering you are willing to draw big titty furries in public you have 0 shame and that leads to soul. Even normies can see that. Also, if it's your coworkers asking then they like you

>>7569854
Post big titties

>>7569872
That's strange, if someone draws NSFW they're effectively blacklisted from the industry [in the west].

>>7569913
no they aren't lol

I got around 100 euros from commisions on my first year on posting online, but now I know that Angels sent by God are looking at my Tumblr and I can't post anymore knowing this. I know that killing myself isn't a feasable option so the best I can do is delete my digital footprint and refuse to post anymore. It is sad, I will miss having a secondary income. I wish the Angels would cut off my head with a flaming sword so She would be happy. Nowhere on the internet is safe, not even 4chan.

>>7569872
No it doesn't
>genre only relevant on s*cial media
>50/50 chance of getting canceled and dogpiled for drawing it

>>7569950
>someone reads this
>they go horny on main
>get cancelled
>spot opens up for >>7569950
lol

>>7569964
>genre only relevant on s*cial media
Social media is the only way to share your art for an amateur tho

I have no community. I draw loli, but not the kawaii uguu lind of loli lolicons want.

>>7569824 (OP)
6 weeks now with water color, doing studies of artists and styles I like.
This one took like 8 hours, sketch, inking and coloring...
wait, Water Cooler not Water color...
nm, guess its under the topic

>>7570173
you forgot her eyebrows

>>7570179
you got a keen eye

draw, don't think about anything but drawing, how to improve drawing, what to draw, then draw some more

>>7569836
not Artificial Intelligence, its no Intelligence (digital drawing) real artists use Real Paint on real canvas or paper. Faggots use pads and creates nothing.

>tfw been on a manic stride of just drawing shit troughout basically all of my free time for the past two months
>starting to feel like burning out during the past few days
Wat do?

>>7569401
No one answered me and I'm still curious.

>feel like you're making tangible progress
>every drawing feels like a major stride
>get dogpiled and called permabeg when you pyw
They just don't respect my beginner gainz. It's as simple as that.

>>7570348
ggrks

>>7570204
I just draw until I burn out every day, it could be one drawing it could be multiple. But I can't go long than 2 hours.

>>7570201
magical thinking, annd it works! now to find a ritual to do before every drawing, i've taken to putting on a casio watch each time i do something creative

>>7570201
All I think about is drawing but I cant draw until I have a fool proof idea that can't fail.

anyone else a fake /int/? If I put 200% effort into a drawing and polish it for hours, it can look like I know how to draw, but its all artifical. My actual drawing skills are still prebeg despite drawing for my entire life. I'm jut good at brute forcing and ctrl Z.

>>7570702
That’s not “fake”.
A true /beg/ can try to “brute force” the same drawing for weeks and still not get anywhere.
I know, I’ve been there.

>>7570201
My mind is fucked and I have PTSD. I mostly can't concentrate

>>7570702
yes and I want out of being a pretender

>>7570702
people who only draw over 3d could be considered fake int or even pro.

>sketch design, proud of it because it looks really cool, can't wait to post it
>doomscroll social media
>find a way bigger artist that has a nearly same exact design
How do you deal with this?
I had no idea this person even existed but if I'll post this piece now I'll probably get trashed out for plagiarism or someshit since it's pretty much identical. I guess I can explain where I've taken inspo from? But it's still going to feel like an asspull

>>7571345
For additional context it's a fanmade design made for an existing character with the clothing of another character swapped on them. So it's no wonder they came out really similar.

>>7570348
Doomscrolling is when the algorithm on a social media site manages to synch up with you perfectly.

It consists of scrolling an automatic feed, consuming posts/videos with one's mood oscillating between at a moderately negative state and a slightly positive state, which causes general distress overall.

The reason this occurs is because the algorithms track what you interact with in a positive and negative sense. So it will show you a few things that you get enjoyment out of (ie cute cat video, kawaii anime art, vtuber funny post) and then several things that get you upset, angry, heated or just worked up in a tribal mentality (a lot of this category is politics but just about any hot take or bait post, even things you agree with so it tempts you to see the people in the replies who disagree.)

The balance is set up so that it shows you just enough positive content that you keep scrolling like a gambler in the hopes of more to give you dopamine and lift your mood to a satisfactory level, but it is carefully giving you enough negative shit that your mood keeps dropping down below neutral. The purpose of this is that every certain number of posts you will be fed sponsored content, which the advertisers pay the website for.

If you decide that you must "use" twitter or tiktok or youtube shorts or whatever else pops up for your art sharing and getting an audience, you should not actually browse it yourself or interact outside of people who talk to your first. Follow no one, post your shit only and reply to people who comment.

>>7570702
I know others who do this. It's unsustainable. You will fuck yourself over eventually if you keep this up and hinder your own learning.

Stop grinding at one pic for so long. Juggle doing different amounts of work on different pictures every 15-45 min, replacing completed ones with new ones. And disable your ctrl+z hotkey.

>>7571345
>>7571348
Anyone who would give you shit for it is a retard who you can safely disregard or block. It's not safe longterm to be around the kind of morons who are hyperviligilant of "plagiarism" outside of academia, and especially when it comes to fucking fanart of all things.

>>7571452
Multiple hours is definitely normal for a complicated and polished piece.
But if it takes you more than one or two sittings to finish the actual underdrawing then you're just banging your head against the wall and you need to drop it and do some study/practice to figure out what gaps in your knowledge are blocking you and how to resolve them.

>>7571601
Every time I give the advice of "switch what you're working on after 15-45 min" someone seems to misunderstand me.
I am not saying that larger projects cannot take multiple hours, I am saying that you should not work on one piece as a marathon, and instead tend to multiple, swapping back and forth between them after short breaks. You can cycle through upwards of 5 or 6 pieces this way if ambitious, but doing it with just 2-3 is the most sustainable for most people.

It reduces fatigue and increases learning since you are forcing yourself to not only take physical breaks but also mental breaks, as you are solving different problems in each picture rather than getting too absorbed into one and blinding yourself.

If it takes 20+ hours total to finish some highly complex picture, doing it over 2 weeks because of juggling is much more sustainable than trying to grind it out in 3 days as your only project.

>>7571620
Buddy, that's not being time efficient, that's called having an attention disorder.

If you can't work on the same thing for over an hour without getting burned out how the hell do you have a job?

>>7571657
>Buddy, that's not being time efficient, that's called having an attention disorder.
No, it's the same reason school periods are broken up. Art is one area where you never stop learning and are using a shitload of brainpower to do the work.

>>7569854
Your art's value to your co-workers come from them having personal tie to you, the artist. I'm not downplaying your art's quality, just pointing out people like if person they know craft something for them

>resume drawing after a 1.5 year break
>thought i caught up to and even went beyond where i previously was
>dig up my old studies and sketches
>utter shit perspective, but the lines were clean and confident(ly wrong), compared to my frayed and scratchy linework of today
Guess it's time to do a master study on myself haha

Slowly chugging away on my comic, putting in penciling.

Nobody reads these days.

>>7571882
They do read. They just don’t read YOUR stuff.

>>7571840
Line quality is the first thing to degrade after a break but also the first thing to come back. Don’t worry about it.

>>7571894
How can they read something I haven't released yet?

>>7571897
I'm inside my TV where everyone but I can see me

>>7570702
Me but im fake /beg/ instead

another unproductive drawing session polishing a turd, boy am I glad i didnt choose to play vidya instead.

>>7571662
>school
In art school they have this thing called HOMEWORK where they spend hours a day on one piece. I agree you ought to take breaks but only 15-45 mins? You barely have enough time to get into a good flow. If you have the proper stakes you will sit down and not leave until you reach a certain benchmark. The other person's problem is probably more they don't have a proper process /ic/ has this thing where they think speed is king slowing down to analyze what you're doing before making strokes and replicating it on future works is how people actually get ridiculously fast, building knowledge of how they actually operate. Also there's the cost of context switching, it takes a small while to warm up and keep goals in mind in every different painting (unless you write them down of course).

>>7572078
Yeah I took a life drawing class once at college and they had us take our work home and spend hours on it after class. When we got in for the day we just set up and draw for a few hours straight. It was really eye opening how focused you can be once you’re in the zone.

>want to draw stuff
>daydream about the stuff every day
>imagine various scenarios and plots
>comics, animations, games
>can't sit down to draw/learn most of the time
>can manage to gain some momentum and draw a thing if it doesn't involve studying so it become the "just draw" thing that might not go anywhere
I start to fear I actually have ADHD. It fits with the behavior I had as a kid like constant walking on breaks and poor attention and those traits still persisted into adulthood.

>>7572078
>You barely have enough time to get into a good flow.
Yea you shouldn't be. You should be self-critiquing and like you said, analyze what you're doing as you do it. Getting too into the zone means you stop paying as much attention (ESPECIALLY TO TIME) and lean on crutches and habits.

Switching tasks allows you step away from the piece and look at it again with fresh eyes WITHOUT entirely stopping work. You get more done, in less time. Even if each INDIVIDUAL piece is done slower on a day-basis, you are still completing the same amount of work. It's just in parallel rather than in series.

This also ALSO helps prevent those situaitons where you get "stuck" and burn time staring at things not knowing how to progress it. You can showerthoughts-out some solutions to the first piece while working on a different one, and the problems you solve on the other artworks can indirectly give you better solutions for what you encounter on the first one.

I know that this is entirely contrary to how a lot of people believe art "should work" but reality it's just healthier overall. And by "a break" I mean 30 seconds to 5 minutes at most. The time it takes to change what you're working on or get up to piss. A lot of retards will think "a break" means "I am going to go check twitter or play 1 round of a videogame" when it really just means a short breather (reminds me bit like how "a nap" is actually only up to 15 minutes, you do not fall into REM sleep for a nap, that's just sleeping poorly at the wrong time)

>>7572141
PYW or this is just mumbojumbo bullshit.

>>7572244
>no counterargument
I accept your concession, and I hope you have no insurance for your inevitable carpal tunnel so you don't push your dumbfuck mistakes onto the rest of society.

>>7572252
So you can't prove it actually works? Because now would be an amazing time to mog the shit out of me.

>>7572263
This isn't something I came up with. There are two different sources in the filenames of each image, and I doubt they came up with it either. This advice is something that has been around for years.

I don't care about mogging you or not, it wouldn't prove shit. The information is there and stands on its own merits. You have done nothing but seethe at it instead of providing any reasoning that shows it as being invalid.

I've been thinking a bit on how AI can sorta revive the genre of school life anime but well maybe in game format for now. How? Well you know there are inbetweeners for animation? There can be inbetweeners for writing as well. And so do you know how you only get like 12/13 episodes of 1 school life show and then maybe a season 2 if you're lucky?

The issue is nearly all of these shows suffer the same exact problem--the writers only adapt the same type tropey ass stories like "the school festival" episodes or track race episode for Watanabechad lite character. What about everything else that happens in school, huh? There's not enough time we as consumers get to spend with these characters and it's only a very narrow glimpse of their life as a student. What if we could experience their lives, 365 days in a year? From freshman all the way to graduation?

Love plus had a gimmick like this but each "day" (if you want to call it that) blows by very quickly. That's where AI can come in, guys. We have 1 main writer than writes all the main stories for each week and the AI can be an inbetweener, filling in more events throughout the day based on the main writing. So it's like you're living through the characters lens, day by day. This is where I think AI can shine the best here and can totally see a new renaissance with this genre. Especially for those teens that had their school life ruined during Covid or they were bullied, etc.

>>7572274
I don't care what linkedin influencer told you it was a good idea, it doesn't mean it is. This is the internet, information is worthless, proof or gtfo.

>>7572283
How many crabs does it take to change a lightbulb?

Exactly 1, any more and they would stand around shitting on each other instead of changing the damn lightbulb.

>>7572294
A crab would download a bunch on how to change the lightbulb videos first before doing anything and then never do it

>>7572299
Nodraws and crabs aren't the same thing. There's /pro/ tier crabs.

>>7570510
Unless they themselves post their work, I don't concern myself with the comments of others on this board, especially if it's a low-effort comment that doesn't elaborate on anything. If anything I consider it a sign of jealousy.

Someone in /v/ noticed that i have been trying to apply the different line thickness on my drawings that people in this board suggested me to do to improve my art and made me really happy.
Unfortunately thread died before i could reply, bro if you are here, thank you for noticing my effort, i i really appreciate it.

>>7570173
Cute drawing and watercolor work. A shame the character is fotm.

It feels like no matter how many gesture drawings I do I can't get the hang of it or drawing the figure. It's really discouraging and I don't know what my problem is. I don't know if I just need to learn 3d shapes or something, but it feels like whenever I try to do those too I just end up doing it aimlessly and it hurts my brain.

>yo you like art?
>ye
>you paint?
>ye
>lemme see?
>ye here, not as good as your stuff but I enjoy it
>woah that's cool, wanna paint together? maybe we can make an account on some something and sell shit, you can take the earnings until we go big, if we go big then we can split it?
>yeah that sounds cool actually I can work with that
>ye I can show you how to do some other stuff too show you some techniques and everything
>oh okay thank you
>fucking
>yo sorry bro I got a lot on my plate I can't-
>yo I ain't realize I been making you do literally 110% of the work bruh why didn't you just ask me to do literally anything?
>or even worse
>DISAPPEARS
>for NO absolute fucking reason
>ZERO effort, Z E R O output, ZERO reason to disappear, just does it anyway
I am TIRED of this shit

just got a proko ad on facebook wtf

>stop drawing for a day
>forget what its like to draw
drawing is the only thing I do and my body still hates it

>follow tutorial spet by step
>my result is shit no matter what
I'm retarded?

>>7574168
Just dont make an account until you have a number of paintings to post. Its really that simple. Use your brain just a tiny bit

https://files.catbox.moe/84dz6s.mp4

>>7573171
Keep it up

>>7574168
What is this, some kind of scam you keep falling for? How can you not instantly tell if someones a real artist or just a grifter?

>>7575392
Post some and I'll tell you

>>7575452
I don't have any because of shame and autistic anger

>>7575412
meds

>dude online messages me asking for a commission
>didn't know my prices yet so lowball
>he accepts, everything goes on smoothly, I'm happy, dudes happy
>he mentions that it's kinda cheap tho and I should double it next time
>ok.webm

>fast forward
>dude asks me for another commission
>I accept, say I'm raising the prices ~x1.5 from before
>still accepts without hesitation, pays immediately on the spot no questions asked
>nice.jpeg

>fast forward
>think of opening commission slots to the public now
>price myself a little less than twice the original prices from when I started taking money
>0 fucking commissions
>think about lowering prices but that wouldn't be fair to the first dude and is embarrassing
>feel like I trolled myself by being too expensive listening to that dude
he still comms me so it's not that bad but man, I'd rather have the quantity to practice more of them too

>>7573795
gesture drawings are a scam imo, if you don’t practice/understand your 3d forms then you’d have a hard time placing them in 3d space. You should rather learn dynamic sketching and understanding perspective to efficiently construct your figures and utilize contours

these few months i kinda been sad, i know how to draw, its just... mentally i just lost my power of imagination, like in space jam when aliens take the powers of the players, idk.. can i have a hug?
(captcha MRPST)

>>7575792
also im comparing my art to the others a lot, i feel like doodoo, like i draw 2 hours on the canvas and clean it all up and start again and the cycle continues

The things you do outside of art and things you do in a different medium all come back to supplement each other. I've been doing 3D this past month and when I draw, I keep thinking in terms of points, edges, and sides. Pretty cool.

I wish other artist would follow me. When I upload and get 0-2 likes it makes me want to stop posting, no I am not a beg but I don't know how to find an audience and it feels pointless to upload into a void.
Despite that I will never stop drawing. Just feeling down today.

>>7575721
Consider: You would get the same money but work more if you were pricing lower.
You just have to market yourself better so you can reach more people who love your work like your best fan.

I want to share my webcomics but I don't want reddit in my comment sections
I have enough of a following on socials to be monetized and a reddit raid could jeopardize that
>why would reddit raid?
Because I draw stuff they don't like

>>7573081
Your skill level is good enough to be confident about.
>I consider it a sign of jealousy
Makes sense, I'm jealous of your skill but I wouldn't hop on here and call you a nodraw begfag.
Your comic is cool btw, Zeldafag.

>>7576128
Even if you aren't into it, you should draw the FOUR LETTER WORD which they are scared of, early on in your comic, then just pretend she never existed. Easy gatekeeping.

>>7576172
Not a bad idea actually

another day wasted doing nothing. I could just draw double tomorrow anyways so doing nothing is actually the best play. Fuck this gay existence

>>7576043
Feel like I'd rather have a more constant stream of randos building up my experience and trust than just the one guy tho, more work is better than hoping the guy had something to comm.
But you're right, my marketing is an issue because I hate the idea of attentionwhoring and years of being an anon has broken my online social skills. Way too easy around here to just jump into a convo without introducing yourself or making friends

>>7576331
Make sure everyone who sees you immediately sees if you are accepting comms. Let it be seen on your nick or profile COMMS OPEN. That way the audience immediately connects you to their potential artists to comm data bank. When you post WIPS and finished pieces, if it's comm, mention it on the first line. People seeing you doing comms are more likely to comm you too. If it's not comm, mention very soon you are currently available for comms.

>>7572281
>Well you know there are inbetweeners for animation? There can be inbetweeners for writing as well.
you have soup for brains

I wasted so much time I’ll never get back.
Each morning I wake up I’m filled with dread.

Honestly, lads, social media of any kind is poison.

>finally figure it out
>draw for fun and to study new things
>pictures come out pretty good, excited to improve
>got 3 things planned out
>randomly see some other artist picture
>brain completely stops
>starting to rethink your entire trajectory
>why am I even doing this, I should be doing exciting things like that
It's unreal, it just ruins your focus, and then it can happen 3times a day. I envy the old masters that haven't had as much contact with art of others, it's genuinely detrimental to me

>>7576512
I do whatever I feel like doing. My life was ruined from the start anyway. I don't care anymore. I just wanna look at porn and draw when I feel liek drawing.

collecting references is pointless, I'm just wasting time. I'm not going to copy them because... that's fucking copying. I want to draw new things, so I never use them. Fuck being a ref collected

>>7576544
It's good to copy from time to time, because you can learn new things from it. I know how you feel tho. Copying just feels like work. But on the other hand, a lot of the fun in drawing is also just drawing well and clean, not just being creative. But yea, I prefer to use references just loosely, like just using the composition idea, or using them to look at how anatomy looks at a certain part.

>>7576464
I'm just a genius and you can't wrap your head around my concept.

>>7576555
In fact, for archival purposes, I patent my idea and if any Japanese studio steals my idea I want royalties. Sign and date.

>>7576544
Copying is how you learn.
I neglected studies for years and I didn’t advance at all. Still basically /beg/ after so many years. Don’t end up like me.

>>7576608
>Copying is how you learn.
Not really. You can also learn by just drawing from memory. If copying is the only way to learn, then all the generic photocopy artists would be masters. That's not the case tho. You need more than just being able to copy.

>>7569824 (OP)
>Anedonia is starting to hit in
It wasn't supposed to be like this.

>>7576645
Go watch anime.

>>7576645
Go have a wank, that will calm your mood

My entire week has been taken by uni work. I cannot focus on the essay I have due tomorrow anymore. And the day after I have an oral exam. Their calendars don’t make any sense, I really hate this place. I just want to draw ffs

>>7576674
>Go have a wank, that will calm your mood
For like 30 minutes until post-fap anxiety creeps in

>>7576645
Eat well and get some sleep. Force yourself to draw afterwards. Anhedonia never goes away by itself, for me at least.

>>7576645
I brute force and ignore the pessimistic noises in my head

>Can finay start a new drawing after spending weeks on a single piece
Lovely feeling ain't it bros?