How do I actually force myself to draw? I've been wanting to draw for nearly 2 years now and have barely made any progress towards that goal. I've only done one Loomis face like 2 years ago and haven't done any exercises or line work since then. I've been trying to get myself to draw, but all of it looks too complicated and exhausting for me. I've tried multiple different strategies, but they never seem to work. I've tried forcing myself to draw, but can only make myself draw circles for barely 30 seconds before stopping and looking at my phone again.

I've got a couple of drawing books and a drawing tablet for my PC and barely touched them.

My shaky hands fuck up every drawing I make, and I can barely do lines without fucking them up. I can't use my shoulder, I only feel good using the motions of my fingers.

this is the most autistic one yet, there are like 100 boxes there, not a single one is even close to correct, and he is using a sketchbook too, he is wasting materials

>>7587200
You didn't post any constructive criticism.

>>7587198 (OP)
You are mentally ill, we cannot help you with that.

genuinely wtf is wrong with the people on here, just draw if you want to and don't draw if you don't want to

>>7587198 (OP)
I was also stuck wanting to draw for years. Keys to Drawing helped me get started, just follow the instructions for each project.

>>7578719
You still have another thread up there. Also, your replies are scripted and you will never draw.

>>7587217
Keys to drawing looked too complex for me.

>>7587198 (OP)
The sharty troll spams again.

REMINDER

DO NOT REPLY
HE IS NOT REAL
HE IS A TROLL
HE JUST POSTS THIS SHIT CONSTANTLY TO BAIT OUT MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE INTO GIVING THEIR STORIES SO HE CAN LAUGH AT YOU
THE MORE YOU TRY TO HELP HIM, THE WORSE HE PRETENDS TO BE, SO HE CAN BAIT OUT EVEN-MORE AWFUL ANECDOTES

DO NOT FEED THE OP TROLL

DO NOT FEED THE OP TROLL

DO NOT FEED THE OP TROLL

DO NOT FEED THE OP TROLL

The real Howie died months ago because he couldn't motivate himself enough to breathe

;_;

>>7587240
>HOWIE PLEASE YOU DIDN'T DRINK ANY WATER FOR THREE DAYS YOU'RE GONNA DIE
>...How...?

unironically what are you hoping to gain
do you really think there's some magical piece of advice you've never heard before that will change everything

just give up.
>so should i give up on every other hobb-
yes.

>Give me real adv...
No.

https://warosu.org/ic/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Advice+I%27ve+been+given+and+why+it+won%27t+work

>>7587347
I Will Never Draw But I Must Make The Same Thread Over And Over Again

>>7587198 (OP)
I just open up my drawing program and doodle with my mouse and when I'm bored and wanna draw with other people I go on doodletwo.com

its harder to force yourself to draw if you're good at art. There's no obvious skill to grind, you're searching for unknown missing elements that are holding your drawings back, while trying to figure out what habits to break. If you're experienced at art then your output quality will go up and down and sometimes you keep drawing flops which kills motivation.

>>7587349
Punished Howie: A Man Denied His Advice

try to come up with a sona for yourself first off. then make an OC of it. that should be a good first project

OP might be bait but is the picture also? I know there's that one autist that did the 'draw 100 anime heads' grind, you know the one, who after a year still didn't understand how to use contour lines, like that I understand can be hard for a pre beg, but a fucking box? You have clear connection points, even if you rush like hell there's no way the end result would be this bad.

I have a limited amount of energy stocks per day. Doing anything takes at minimum 1 stock. Starting to draw takes one stock, finishing a drawing and starting another takes a second stock, too. So if I only have 2 stocks, I can either draw one thing for 6 hours or two sketches for 30 minutes. Sleeping usually restores two or 3 stocks, but I need them to do other things like shower and do chores too.

>>7587458
bro living life like it's Solo Levelling

>>7587198 (OP)
As a long time artist (over 30 years) I can only say stop drawing boring shit you don't care about and draw things that excite you. Without passion you will not draw. You still need to practice fundamentals but draw something that encourages you. I don't care if its' tits and ass all day. Just do it.

>>7587454
This isn't bad on purpose. I was genuinely trying.

>>7587458
>energy stocks
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

>>7587543
Okay. Like what?

>>7587688
>tell me what I like
Are you an ingrate?

Howie why did you make another thread

My penis is so fucking hard, you should draw Sonic having gay sex with men.
In order to get better you must jerk off 10 times a day.

Maybe if you hold the sketch book while you draw, your shaky hands will sync up like metronomes.

>>7587640
Looks like you rushed through it, instead of actually analyzing what you did.

>>7587472
At least when I was a child I at least pretended like I was in Digimon. Hell I even vaguely remember drawing a Digimon and just writing "hands" where they should have been because they were impossible for me.

>>7587458
>energy stocks

Get the fuck over it. You are not suffering from degenerative condition.

>>7587800
So you can draw, but you just choose to pester /ic/ instead

>>7587216
They're attention whores.

>>7587883
I'm not Howie or the Howie Pretender.

>>7587216
Some people don't want to be dictated by their whims

>>7587891
Nobody can offer me any real advice.

>>7588029
Shut up, Howie.

>>7588029
go to chatgpt or grok and leave us the fuck alone, you disgusting leech

>>7587796
This gave me an extremely high quality giggle my man thank u

>How do I actually force myself to draw?

FUCK I FORGOT TO SAGE NOW THIS STUPID FUCKING THREAD WILL BE ON THE CATALOG FOR ANOTHER MONTH GOD DAMNIT

>>7587198 (OP)
>another boxcuck appears
Who's leading these poor prebegs astray?

>>7587198 (OP)
Try coloring books that have numbers to it OP

>>7591816
hed make another ur fine

Am I doing this correctly?

>>7594913
You already know the answer to that, dude. Practice making straight/curved lines and clear shapes before even tackling Loomis heads.

>>7595551
I have to practice for hours and hours just to draw something as simple as a fucking line? This is why I keep giving up. I'm not actually drawing anything I want to. But in order to draw what I want I have to follow this shit.

>>7587797
Well, I wasn't analyzing what I did because I thought I was doing it correctly.

Not OP, but I feel like forcing myself to draw would be helpful sometimes. I'm not like OP in that I stubbornly refuse to draw or anything, but I've got a lot of bad memories of myself as a rank amateur getting absolutely shit on by other rank amateurs and it tends to end drawing sessions early.

>>7595867
At this point it's clear you don't actually like drawing, you just like the idea of it. Howie, for your sanity, please just give up.

And before you fire back with "so should I just give up on every hobby-", shut up. We fucking know every hobby is like this for you because you say it in every fucking thread. Shut. UP.

>>7595980
you will ngmi. youre brainless

>>7587198 (OP)
You fell into a meme made to permanently ruin beg's art journey. There's no helping you, shouldn't have listened to the box jeet

Dumbass.

>>7587198 (OP)
Gonna be honest, you need a fandom. Something you can fixate on and obsess over that makes the 'wanting to draw' part easy. If you carry on trying to be a Loomis studier or whatever you're always going to find excuses for why you can't do it, because the reality is you're not actually interested in doing that stuff. You just think it's a necessary part of learning to draw that you HAVE to do to be good.
It's okay to come back to books and learn better techniques once you have an actual idea of what areas you want to improve on. It might be more of a struggle to unlearn bad habits, but that's fine, the only person you need to compare yourself to is yourself.

>>7596776
>So should I just give up on every hobby-
But that's the truth? You simply don't like that line of questioning and don't have an answer for it. Because then you'd be forced to admit that there's something more than just me "not wanting to draw" and be unable to hand wave it away like you do with all my other complaints.

>>7597232
I already have a fandom that I'm fixated on and have been for an entire year. Still nothing. I don't know how to draw anything I like from said fandom.

>>7597302
The issue is that your mental health is in shambles. Fix that. I will not tell you how because Google is free.

>>7597386
>You need to first learn how to draw lines
>You need to fix your shakiness
>You need to get your meds adjusted
>You need to fix your mental issues
How about just telling me how to draw? No matter how good I feel or how happy I feel, I can't make myself draw.

>>7597437
fuck off faggot and stop bumping your own threads

>>7597448
How about just tell me how to draw.

>>7597555
How about dropping dead, you leech? Then again you probably couldn't find the motivation to do so and would ask us how to put a gun to your head

i think Pinkie Pie has the most fuckable asshole, that inspires me to become a better person and artist.

>>7597555
Why is it that infants with crayons, paper, and almost zero guidance can figure it out, but you can't?

>>7597636
surely you can show your own rendition of Pinkie Pie's asshole then

>>7597673
I want to draw well. I don't want to draw badly

>>7597309
just draw things from the fandom you like every day, you'll get better without realizing. everyone has to grind to get good, there is no shortcut

people like the schizo op make adhdfags look bad. I love drawing but my brain will do ANYTHING but draw. Literally I would rather watch gore than draw. But when I'm actually drawing, I can't stop and I'm having the time of my life.

>>7597905
You have to draw badly first before you can learn to draw well, you fucking troglodyte. If you can't accept the idea of drawing badly than you shouldn't draw at all.

>>7597905
Sounds like you're an autist obsessed with instant gratification.

>>7598180
>>7598187
I just drew this.

>>7598978
Delicious pieces of cake

>>7598978
Okay.

>>7598978
we are witness to howie's training arc

>>7598978
Congrats Howie, glad to see you actually drawing

>>7598978
Now spend more than 30 seconds on a drawing.

>>7598978
Mark my words, Howie will mog this whole board with his trad pencil landscape sketches within 12 months

>>7601012
>>7599022
>>7599021
>>7598985
I forgot to show this.

>>7587198 (OP)
>I've been wanting to draw for nearly 2 years now and have barely made any progress towards that goal.
You want to draw ? Ok, just draw then. Make shit, make mistakes, don't give a fuck.
What do you want to draw ? Why do you want to draw ? What drives you ?
Well then, do it. Think about a realistic goal (even copying a drawing you like) and do it from start to finish. Start something, finish it, start something else, finish it, etc.

That's the only way to make progress. Drawing 1000 boxes is fucking useless unless you want to draw with boxes. But before that you have to try if that fits you. Yeah, your boxes suck, but fill an A0 with those and I could find some aesthetic pleasure in it. But maybe that's not your goal.

So relax, do shit that you like and get off this cursed board. Get off internet either. Just copy stuff you like, just do what pleases you with drawing. And if you don't like anything, consider seeking another hobby. You don't risk your life, those are just graphite lines on paper, Anon. Nobody will give a fuck except you.

you don't

>>7602639
Now spend more than 31 seconds on a drawing.

>>7602685
I don't know how to make myself is the problem.

>>7587198 (OP)
Dude set a timer for 15 minutes and do nothing but close your eyes and breath do this everyday for at least for a week. Every time you start to think about checking your phone or anything just turn your thoughts back to breathing. Think nothing. Then after that week or so set a timer for 15 minutes. Then do a little break after set a timer for 30 minutes and draw the whole time doing nothing else and try to build a tolerance. Setting timers and truly focusing helps me a lot especially with exercises that aren’t fun. then do a little break then another timer and focus. Relax be in the moment there is a lot of comfort there and comfort in the craft. Good luck anon

>>7606144
How is that going to help me?

>>7587198 (OP)
>barely made any progress towards that goal
What is your goal?

>>7606740
I want to make stories in a visual medium. All of the stories that I want to make would require a visual medium more than a literary one. It's impossible for me to actually write about any of the ideas I want to write about since they'd all fit something visual. I also want to draw things that I happen to be hyper fixating on. Robots, aliens, mecha, just anything. I've never been able to finish a full story, and even the idea of writing a full length story feels so daunting and exhausting

>>7606865
That's because it is. Start with your sights on "draw characters from my story" and try to get some decent sketches of alien robots. I've been the one posting about graph paper in your other thread, helping you is the most interesting project on /ic/ if you're able to do this seriously one step at a time.

Just work on sketching some character ideas, do it trad or digital and start copying from a grid if needed, all that matters is that you actually draw.

>>7606903
I don't know what I'm doing with the ball and plane method

>>7606903
All of this shit looks too confusing.

What do I do?

I'm still waiting for any advice to come.

>>7608190
Yeah here's an easy-to-follow guide for ya.

>>7591814
Need for Speed but the bomb is inside your stylus; detonating if the user goes too long without drawing.

I still have no idea if this retard is an actual loser or a shartyfag baiting, if it's the latter, then I appreciate the dedication

>>7587198 (OP)
>How do I actually force myself to draw?
you can't. you either want to or you don't
>I've been wanting to draw for nearly 2 years now and have barely made any progress towards that goal.
"learning how to draw" isn't a goal. refine your end point so managing the milestones and processes required for the journey is less daunting. "i want to make a piece similar to <piece from an artist i admire> by the end of the year" is more concrete and gives you a visual yard stick to measure against. an artist that you like that also teaches their process is optimal, to be supplemented with all the books and materials already discussed on this board.
>I've been trying to get myself to draw, but all of it looks too complicated and exhausting for me.
drawing is complicated when you study without a goal for each study. start smaller. do value studies/scales. play with shapes and positive/negative space. do 1-point perspective. break it down until something clicks, interspersed with doodles of things you want to draw regardless of whether you think they will turn out good - don't focus on presentable results, you don't have enough consistent processes mastered to make consistently "good" results that you can show off, so focus on understanding what you're learning and making your results predictable through repeatable processes
>I've tried forcing myself to draw, but can only make myself draw circles for barely 30 seconds before stopping and looking at my phone again.
i have no advice outside of "seek help for behavioral addictions if you need them" and "turn your phone off"
>My shaky hands fuck up every drawing I make, and I can barely do lines without fucking them up. I can't use my shoulder, I only feel good using the motions of my fingers.
not drawing from the arm will limit your ability to draw long, fluid strokes, but don't get caught up in dogma: there's artists that paint with their feet and mouths. focus on getting shit on the page first.

>>7587198 (OP)
FUCK JANNIES DELETING GOOD THREADS BUT LETTING THIS GARBAGE STAY UP

>edging for 4 hours
:)
>drawing for 30 minutes
:(

why

>>7607845
Draw more.
>>7608190
Advice: Draw more.

>>7608190
Have you tried turning it off and on again?