how can I make money with my art? Everyone tells me to start with furry commissions but I don't know where or how. I need money for college. pic is mine btw

Make a niche for yourself while networking
OR
draw exactly what other people want to buy or see

1)Go to furry convention
2)Get molested
3)Tell them you do commissions.

>>7592794 (OP)
>how can I make money with my art?
Step 1. Make art that people wanna buy

>>7592794 (OP)
It is just niche fetishes, not furry. There's enough desperate artists trying to hit it big with furries that you're not going to hit it big without being a furry yourself. Fat fur tits hits different when the artist is interested too.

Design a tshirt, and wear it. Get feedback from your friends and make more designs, eventually making an online store.

> Make a niche for yourself while networking

this
i've carved out a pretty niche on tumblr doing birds, and they drive traffic to my blog. i also post other things, and then ultimately this results in the occasional person liking my art enough to throw money at me to have me draw something for them

picrel ive drawn that bird as well

>>7594537
Aren't you the guy who dropped out of art or am I thinking of a different bird schizo?

>>7594573
nah man im a techie, never had an art education. i don't even like birds that much, i'm farming the niche more than anything (plus they've got cool shapes and colours)

>>7594716
>never had an art education
yeah, we ain't blind

>>7598451
i'm joking

Nobody needs art. The few that do just use ai these days. As an artist your income is coming from supportive fans. Certain communities love to support their artists.

>>7598451
i'll take that as a compliment! i've modelled at art school and their work ends up all so homogenous. i'm struggling, sure, but at least i'm having fun being myself struggling on my own

>>7592794 (OP)

You've made a good start being good at birds. A lot of bird furries are pretty chill, dragon autists usually also love gryphons/avians in general so learn to draw them as well and you'll have a good base.

Go look at furry websites and you'll see a lot of artists who just post commission adverts non stop. A lot of these artists aren't very good, all have a similar style, and if you're better than them all that's left to do is:

>Sign up to furry websites
>Post shit
>Actually be involved, respond to comments etc.
>Get a small following
>Avoid discussing politics like it's the plague
>Open up for cheap commissions for some pocket change
>Increase prices as more demand comes in

Your main competition are going to be people who live in third world shitholes who can do quality work for a lot less and make an ok living. People in Slavic countries especially drive the average price of commissions down a ton.

You won't make a proper living unless you hit it big and start getting the attention of the rich IT/STEM furries.

>>7592794 (OP)
I've given up on the idea of making money from drawing. The concept just seems ridiculous to me. Someone wouod be interested enough to look at my drawings and go "Oh, I like your style let me pay ya". I just draw for my own satisfaction.

>>7601820
> People in Slavic countries especially drive the average price of commissions down a ton.
guilty

Im not OP but is there some website where I can promote my commissions and get paid? I have mid-high beg art. I was told fiverr is rough

>>7603738
twitter?

>>7603743
I got super low engagement

>>7603756
discord then, and start befriending mental adolescents

>>7592794 (OP)
>how can I make money with my art?
The same way you make money from anything else, by running a business.
I'm a game dev and animator (2D+3D) and I have a small social media following yet I'm a full time artist, I'm my own boss.
How?
I develop nsfw games for itchio & Nutaku.
I "supply" an art product with "demand"
I add "value" to my business partners and customers.
I run a business, and porn is one of the most lucrative markets, and the video game industry is bigger than Hollywood, so I combine porn + video games = $$$

>>7607379
Do you use AI in any way? Gooners seem to tolerate it more and there's a shit ton of jeets making ai goonslop now

>>7607383
I don't but a lot of gamedevs do, specially on itchio, they're shameless code monkeys that use a shitty game engine and they don't even make their own art but they make a lot of money because like you said, most gooners don't care, but to be fair, I did see a bunch of reviews of recent games where the main criticism is exactly that, so maybe they're tired of cropped at the thigh & terrible lighting AI porn bullshit.
Making porn games is easy money, but only if you know the hot niches and trends aka you do market research, which a lot of artists don't do either because they hate money, their ego is too big or y'know they don't know how to.
Saturated niches are a "red ocean" it's hard to fish customers there, there's too many fishermen/artists/devs so you have to go for "blue ocean" or start early in what I like to call soon to be red ocean, first move advantage is no joke.
If you still wanna go for red then copy an industry leader and/or offer something better than they do.
Here's an easy example for you artists, copy Khyleri but do something different, maybe replace anime art for furry or make animation instead of paintings, maybe become even more controversial than Khyle, like Shadman but animation...
Just learn about business, marketing and all your "how to make money with art" questions vanish in an instant. Peace out.

>>7594425
Good advice
I used to make and wear weed shirts and my stoner friends always wanted them. Then I grew up and stopped smoking weed and still struggling to find my niche ever since

>>7598527
>homogenous
It’s because art teachers are faggot failures who are obsessed with stiffling creativity
>nooo you cant do that
>ummm this is actually not how we do things around here
i was taught so many retarded rules and restrictions and what do you know, 10 years later the people who were doing the exact things that were faux pas were hailed as pioneers for breaking the rules
Was it hitchcock who said that not knowing the “proper” way to do things is why his work stood out? I forgot, either way, if you dont know the “limits” of the art or the medium you’re also not held back by them

>>7592794 (OP)
Less money in porn patreon games nowadays. But still very doable imo. 2D drawn art generally does a lot better than 3D and AI slop weg.

>>7607811
very much appreciated. I know how to code well enough (for an eroge anyway), and am willing to draw just about anything. Any more tips for starters? I guess you already gave a lot, but more is always appreciated.

>>7607819
It works, you just need a store front to sell from.

>>7607811
another question, is this actually viable in the western (English speaking) world? I would assume a large percentage of eroge players are Japanese and maybe Chinese or Korean?

>>7592794 (OP)
Draw flavor of the month. Sell it. And post your original art. Offer commissions.

>>7608643
>he doesn’t know about weg

>>7608687
indeed, I know nothing of this, but would like to learn

just start painting in oils and post the paintings to a dedicated Instagram profile. update it multiple times a week and within a few months to a year, galleries will start contacting you.
>>7594425
this is a good idea to, might try it myself

>>7612193
All you need do is stuff a template with imagery.

This one was based on a photo I took of snow on bare trees.

I draw women wrestling and people into the niche comm me to draw for them. Pixiv and DeviantArt have in-site commission service, with trusted clients you can use direct PayPal.

So pick a niche you yourself like, tag your stuff properly so that the fans of the niche/s can find you, make it clear you accept comms. The first thing viewer should see when they see your profile/gallery is what is your subject and how to comm/subscribe you

>>7615660
canva.com doesn't let you fill the whole shirt. what websites do you use?

1) join a Discord server (preferably a commission-specific one)
2) get known as a competent artist on le server
3) post ad
4) ????
5) clients fill ur dms

Boom^ u now have commissions and lotz of monies B)
Or just sign up for vgen/dollhouse and advertise as much as you can if you want a more business-savvy type of approach

YES, even the shittiest of niches can sell, the problem is that you have to do a lot of networking and investigating your niche's community, for instance you'd do well in a hunting/wild life community as people like buying/commissioning custom pieces of real life animals

>>7592794 (OP)
First draw some furry art and post it on Twitter.
Then DM a furry artist on Twitter (use your best judgment to decide which artist), preferably one with a dedicated follower base rather than just "biggest follower count".
Respectfully ask the artist (or bribe them) to retweet your art, and don't complain if they refuse.
If your numbers don't rise and commissions don't pick up, repeat with a different artist.

any tips for non digital artists?

>>7616042
Printful.com,but the couple of tshirts I got from them weren't satisfactory, but I know nothing about fabrics and how inks cling to them, so you might have better luck. The eye tshirt was a few separate images wielded together from the template:chest,back,shoulders and collar.

>>7616665
Get a scanner
Buy a tablet