Thread 7597854 - /ic/ [Archived: 1191 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/5/2025, 11:31:10 PM No.7597854
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Does anyone know where I can download Ruan Jia's art in very high resolution? Especially his older stuff
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Anonymous
6/5/2025, 11:47:56 PM No.7597870
goonsquad
goonsquad
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>>7597854 (OP)
The warosu links are long dead, and I won't zip it for you.
It's basically lost media at this point.
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 12:04:45 AM No.7597886
i have some but you aint gettin shit
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 12:51:18 AM No.7597926
>>7597854 (OP)
why
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 9:25:22 PM No.7598977
I can't believe people still think Ruan Jia's work looks "cool". I grew up. It's just chink slop.
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 12:55:38 AM No.7599171
>>7598977
pyw
and see you won't (pussy), post what you think looks cool.
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 8:53:25 AM No.7599547
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>>7598977
I outgrew his stuff too. I use to like his stuff a lot, collected everything I could find. Now it's over done. Lots of his stuff is overworked or rushed. His recent anime stuff looks silly. And there are 100s of artists he taught/inspired, so now his style is oversaturated. I think his Guild Wars 2 stuff still hold up though.
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 5:18:01 PM No.7599858
>>7597854 (OP)
I used to be a fan of this guy's work. After several attempts I ultimately decided his work is unachievable. What's within my limitations is actually cooler and more appealing. It's quite interesting how happy we can be by lying to ourselves.
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 5:29:00 PM No.7599869
>>7599547
you may have not outgrew his stuff his artstyle just... changed. He's one of my fav artists and I'm not a fan of his weird doll like, deep fried hair images he's creating today. I think that's why so many people want(ed) to learn to paint like him because he didn't really make the things we like and moved on from the style we admired.
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 5:55:16 PM No.7599909
>>7599547
don't know what you mean by overdone, his stuff isn't overdone, he just spends more time on his art than most people
none of his students even come close to his skill level, they may copy the surface impression of it but that's it. the patience to work on things to his level is still insane, no current artist comes close but you'd have to have that kind of personality to begin with. i doubt anyone on nu-ic even knows anything about rj other than "he render man" and parrots retarded shit without substance
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 6:06:34 PM No.7599916
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>>7599171
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 6:22:32 PM No.7599928
ruan-jia-tiger-and-his-friend
ruan-jia-tiger-and-his-friend
md5: 7534709250f8f3c4888c30fc526b1107๐Ÿ”
>>7599909
'''Skill level''' is irrelevant. Conceptually his current art is just lame. The amount of overworked pseudodetail on really juvenile ideas just comes off really bad. I don't care how long he spent rendering it, his concepts are minion meme tier. If he can't use his art style to elevate his ideas, I don't really know what it's purpose is.

>retarded shit without substance
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 7:08:50 PM No.7599996
>>7599928
can you give example of artists with stylistic and conceptual maturity that dwarfs Ruan's?
genuine question because this is very helpful for many of us.
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 7:19:52 PM No.7600019
>>7599928
who the fuck was talking about his concepting abilities? stay on topic retard
he's more of an illustrator anyways, you wouldn't look at john park and think he's an amazing illustrator in the same way you don't look to rj for interesting designs

nu-ic is so fucking braindead, dogshit at art, dogshit at discourse
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 7:33:32 PM No.7600032
>>7600019
>nu-ic is so fucking braindead

Tell me about it. Bunch of teenagers who think fast is good and they worship anime pictures that looks like its been done in ms paint. They're not in it to make art, not even for a good job, they're in it for "Content" that they can get upcummies on twitter for.
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 7:42:49 PM No.7600052
>>7600032
>>7600019
LMAO FAGS
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 8:15:53 PM No.7600082
>>7600019
You realize that concept means โ€˜ideas and messageโ€™ not concept art, right? You do, right?
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 8:38:04 PM No.7600114
>>7600082
>his concepts are minion meme tier
>posts concept art
you do know you're retarded right? you don't draw, you're a zoomer, kill yourself
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 8:39:18 PM No.7600116
>>7599928
This would've been nice if it was just the tiger's torso, arms and the gun he's holding, because the rest of it is just a bunch of random clashing shit. Also I can't tell what is even on his head
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 12:54:25 PM No.7601086
OP here, why is this board so fucking retarded? I asked for his paintings, not the opinions of ngmis. Who cares what you think, was that the point of this thread? Shut the fuck up
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 1:24:41 PM No.7601102
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>>7601086
idk what it is about Ruan but every single time he is mentioned or a thread is made about him people start seething for no reason at all, happens every single time without fail.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 1:38:35 PM No.7601107
>>7599547
flute girl was his peak. hasn't made a better painting since.
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:30:19 PM No.7601645
Kil_27jaeden_the_Deceiver
Kil_27jaeden_the_Deceiver
md5: def4c76a13e914b720adfd37723e98b6๐Ÿ”
Does anyone have this in high res?
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:52:17 PM No.7601657
Now that I look at it, his fundies are really basic and the entire value of his artwork is the chinese overrendering. How come nobody called him out on it over the years? I've always seen /ic/ being in love with Ruan's art since forever.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:59:59 PM No.7601661
>>7601657
pyw
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:02:22 AM No.7601663
>>7601657
If his fundies are really basic, I'd like to see an artist you consider to be a fundies expert then
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:07:50 AM No.7601668
>>7601657
Because historically you had to go to a decent industry-focused art school to learn that kind of overrendering. It was "magic" that made it seem like you had to work for 9000 hours on one picture, so the assumption was that people who could do it were gods. Studying the divine to learn a fragment of their power.

Now everyone knows its just a concept artist tool to add visual noise for contrast. The impressiveness of technique goes down, so what are you left with? Well... basically just good observational skills, and other fundies which anyone can learn with practice.

It's why the other anon pointed out how his art really says nothing. That's just what happens if you tune your art to work in industrial pipelines, and the current zeitgeist has major anti-establishment currents running through it (in part because of better knowledge, in part because of institutions eroding their own credibility). What this means is that anyone whose art is visually part of that structure is going to be looked down upon.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:18:44 AM No.7601675
>>7601668
How come you dumb niggers can come up with this pseudo intellectual drivel, but you won't post your art OR the kind of art that you think is truly much better. It's always just empty posts of people who say a lot but show nothing.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:24:04 AM No.7601688
>>7601675
It's called having an engineering mindset. Identify problems so you can come up with solutions. Learning from well-known people is as much seeing what they did wrong as well as what they did right.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:26:08 AM No.7601693
>>7601688
Cool man, now post art you think is more impressive. Surely you have some examples from artists that you admire
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:30:46 AM No.7601700
>>7601693
You aren't getting it. This isn't a contest of "BUH BUH MY ART IDOL IS BETTER THAN YOURS".

You can analyze art on its own merits and see what works and what does not, and learn from it. Pros have issues you can learn to avoid and begs have things they do well that you can make use of by swiping.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:32:18 AM No.7601703
>>7601657
>overrendering
you have never seen a high res ruan jia painting and you're not as smart as you think
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:39:59 AM No.7601721
>>7601700
Alright then, just post art that you like, you personally
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:53:13 AM No.7601739
zaku-fz
zaku-fz
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>>7601721
Off the top of my head I quite like this one.
The colors really sell the action, there is battle damage, the trees silhouetted give the sense of scale, and the posing isn't "random" cool pose - the in-focus Zaku is in the middle of reloading.

There are some weird bits with the far zaku's head shape I think, and the specific place they decided to crop for the box art makes the gun feel more stubby than it is. I doubt the artist was responsible for that but being mindful of how you crop is really important.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:54:39 AM No.7601742
zaku-fz_uc
zaku-fz_uc
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>>7601739
This is the uncropped version. The colors are kind of fucked on it though, not sure why. It gives a bit of a different mood.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:54:49 AM No.7601744
>>7601703
>you have never seen a high res ruan jia painting
I did and I also have videos of him painting it. Man goes over the document of huge resolution with texture brushes, that's quite literally it.
But if you look at the thumbnails as seen in >>7599547 for example, you notice that they just look like bitch basic 3D doll renders. "Head in a void" and "knights walking", no multiple figures, no action, no stress. If you blur out the endless chicken scratch, how is it different from your average /int/?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:32:13 AM No.7601802
>>7601744
then you're just a retard that doesn't know any better
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:50:46 AM No.7601827
>>7601739
I like the way his bottom part is obscured by the shadow. Yea you're valid anon.
However, I disagree with the anti-establishment trend affecting our perception of game industry art that much.
I do believe his technical prowess far outweighs the substance of his work so in turn it appears superficial. But relatively, there's hardly anyone that can compare, hence the lack of examples here (apart from yours, which I do genuinely like on its own).
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:17:15 AM No.7601856
>>7601739
do you know of a good gallery for art like this? i really like the style seen on stuff like this and pc88/98 box arts
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:38:23 AM No.7601881
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>>7601827
You realize what you're doing here, right? You're just picking an arbitrary point on the graph and saying "no one else is quite like this". But that's a meaningless statement. (-4, 2) is a coordinate, not a value statement. You're not justifying why your ideal actually matters.

Because plenty of people shitting on Jia have brought up points why his work is mediocre. But you or anyone else defending him haven't really substantiated why it isn't. He spends a lot of time on his work. So what? He has good technical skills. So what? Why do either of those things mean I should give a shit when I look at the final result and feel absolutely nothing.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:41:28 AM No.7601884
>>7601881
I look at Ruan Jia's art and I feel something. Therefore his art is good to me.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:54:10 AM No.7601904
>>7601802
Fantastic argument, anon. Really no way to refute this.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:54:48 AM No.7601905
>>7601881
>But you or anyone else defending him haven't really substantiated why it isn't.
Doesn't this burden lie on you, the one who offers criticism? Besides, If you don't like his work and if you don't feel anything that's perfectly fine. Examples in your picrel are great as well.
Come on man, defend my preferences? I don't have to, Sir.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:57:48 AM No.7601912
>>7601884
>I feel something. Therefore his art is good to me.
What a feminine and useless point of view
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:03:23 AM No.7601919
>>7601905
>Doesn't this burden lie on you

Yes? It does. No shit. And we made our points.
Then you went "nuh uh" and didn't actually refute any of them or bring up counterpoints.

If you didn't want to defend your preferences, why would you say we're wrong?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:04:26 AM No.7601920
>>7601912
What is art for, if not to make feel good feelings?
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:22:42 AM No.7601944
>>7601919
>why would you say we're wrong?
Are you referring to this post? >>7601827
which part? because that's my only other post,
I simply think his work isn't as shallow as you made it out to be.
His portraits and complex scenes are solid, I believed his works successfully delivered what he's trying to convey on its own context.
So if you don't feel anything that's purely subjective.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:29:38 AM No.7601951
>>7601919
>Then you went "nuh uh" and didn't actually refute
You're working too hard to argue this, your standards must be really high. If that's the case then I don't know how to impress a master cannoisseur like yourself (lol).
I think RJ's work is top notch and there's not much else to say.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:44:48 AM No.7601972
>>7601904
you refer to his brushwork as "chicken scratch" because you don't understand the logic behind it and only seek to discredit him
so calling you a retard is perfectly astute because you lack requisite knowledge to discuss art, now i'm calling you a retard again based on the fact that you're a retard
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:49:06 AM No.7601978
The Ruanjis are sure great at making themselves look credible. Opinion very valuable.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 3:57:30 AM No.7601984
>>7601944
i think it's about time you step back and get some perspective. read between the lines. the majority of people who dislike rj are just plainly anti-chinese. it's that simple, and that petty. no matter what chinese art you post, they will always show up to bag on it. you're on 4chan afterall.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:00:48 AM No.7601988
>>7601951
>I think RJ's work is top notch

RuanJia's work is objectively top notch. Even if you do not like his art work his painting skill is among the best (His drawing skill does need work though) and is absolutely undeniable.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:04:45 AM No.7601995
>>7601978
Don't stress yourself too much, call it a day and get some rest.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 5:42:54 AM No.7602092
>>7601984
>plainly anti-chinese.
Chinese have no taste, they slather everything in detail, it's just cultural thing, where more=good. Very peasant and uncultured view of sophistication.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 9:13:04 AM No.7602212
>>7601984
I dislike detail vomit no matter who does it.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 9:16:34 AM No.7602217
I miss when a new ruan jia image would drop an anons would make a thread and try to fix it.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:06:47 PM No.7602317
>>7599547
>I outgrew his stuff too.
You're literally me lol, I made this pic by the way.
I was so obsessed and I wasted so much time on this stupid Chinese technique.


>>7599869
>moved on from the style we admired.
At first he was pretending to be Japanese like Amano. When he lived in Canada and USA art directors pushed him to draw more western style art . Now he has a lot of time and money, he just wants to draw Chinese shit for Chinese normies.

>>7601102
I made this pic too.

>>7601086
>OP here
You triggered my trauma.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:17:55 PM No.7602325
R8_A104_S-q8-16433589145046386200
R8_A104_S-q8-16433589145046386200
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>>7601645
This is an overpainted version by RJ. Blizzard has the original high res.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:08:03 PM No.7602348
1472053643a415
1472053643a415
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>>7601645
Was convinced I had it but alas I was wrong.
Have this instead
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:18:55 PM No.7602353
>>7601657
>>7601703
>chinese overrendering
>overrendering

we have it in the west as well. Rather, overrendering is very much a western thing, since Asian art always strived for simplicity (of line,comp, color etc), which then inspired the impressionists.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:21:52 PM No.7602356
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>>7602353
forgot image, but it was this overrendered diablo III art
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 2:35:39 PM No.7602364
>>7602092
post your country
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:12:32 PM No.7602453
>>7602364
nta but you are a brainlet, he is objectively right an he argued his viewpoint. His country of origin is irrelevant to this debate lol
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:32:52 PM No.7602482
>>7602453
pajeet seethe until proven otherwise. i rest my case.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:18:14 PM No.7602645
>>7601827
>Yea you're valid anon.
Thanks.
>But relatively, there's hardly anyone that can compare
I doubt this. To be honest, I don't think I've heard of Ruan Jia before this thread anyway. I don't study concept artist types in general, because most have nothing interesting to say. I do have a few pieces saved that did move me (and some of them it turns out deleted the good stuff after a while, in favor of more corporat-friendly portfolios lol) but almost nobody in that realm is what I'd consider to be truly great, just many (like Ruan Jia) have high skills in some areas that contribute to being able to produce a certain result given the constraints of the specific profession he works in.

In terms of similar "21st century concept-art impressionism" art, I actually consider this picrel to be a bit better. Not from rendering technique or anything (some parts are obviously painted over a photobash), but because it provokes some visceral emotions and draws me into the image to keep seeing more.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:18:46 PM No.7602646
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md5: null๐Ÿ”
>>7602645
Shit I forgot to add the pic, noooo.
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:28:41 PM No.7602659
>>7601972
>his brushwork as "chicken scratch"
>>7602092
>they slather everything in detail, it's just cultural thing
>>7602353
>overrendering is very much a western thing
It's not a country-based thing. Slavs do it. Americans do it. Chinese do it. Japanese do it.

It's a concept art industry thing, because this digital industry-specific 21st century impressionism is really fucking fast. You just see it happen to be a lot of chinese because they're willing to work for pennies compared to western concept artists, and they flooded artstation a while ago and stayed there, because Deviantart was banned in China for like 2 years or something at one point. That and there's been a lot of investment in China into games, originally maintaining parallel dev streams for operating licensed games behind the firewall, then to serve as outsourcing for non-chinese studios, and now they push their domestic games internationally.

>>7601984
>just plainly anti-chinese
I am anti-CCP but not anti-Chinese. I have no problem with Chinese people individually (en masse I sometimes do, but that's just like brazilians 25 years ago so mei ban fa). If we got a 1991 for China I would be happy to buy Chinese products again because they do make some good shit. I just don't want to fund commies.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:38:09 PM No.7605733
>>7602217
Sounds peak. Got a link to some of them?
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:52:02 PM No.7605766
>>7597854 (OP)
Nastalgic, I miss this concept era. A time you watched paint demos with edited narrative, explaining photoshop cs5 keyboard short cuts. What happended?
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:55:15 PM No.7605772
>>7605766
>what happened

Execute order 66