Guys I need help on what I can improve, I lack in anatomy and faces in a semi realistic way.
I need an honest opinion and feedback, no troons no begs no faggotry. I just need help because I don't think I am good enough to start selling commissions in a serious non beg level.
I have four cats to feed prices continue to go up.
This is two months worth of study by coping (not tracing) Aleriia's work. I also printed some beg bane:
Creative Illustration
Drawning the Head & Hands
Fun with Pencil
Successful Drawning
Figure Drawning for all its worth
But it has only been 4 months with the books, I mostly skimmed haven't had the time to read and read again and practice by the books.

I never had the chance to sit down and study art (for real) so please any mentoring and guidance will help tremendously I feel like an eternal beg.

Link to uncompressed image
https://files.catbox.moe/ekncc3.png

>>7599276 (OP)
>copying
but what do you draw like from imagination?
anyway those are fine for the most part. i could see people paying for them. also aren't some of these baalbuddy?

You're drawing double-jointed hips for some reason, or maybe the ref you're copying from is, in any case hips quite don't work like in 36, 44, 29, 7, 15

>>7599286
from my imagination its normal, I "copying" then to learn that skills because i think im not good.
yes also from baalbudy fogot mention my bad. ^^'

>>7599290
thanks |I appreciate you feedback so much.
Could you show me somehow how you would make the correction? That would really help me.
I've been trying to learn from these two great artists how to make something good for a long time.

>>7599321
NTA but tried correcting some examples

>>7599742
Holy Dunning Kruger beg

>>7599742
jesus christ this is embarrassing

>>7599276 (OP)
Need money? Learn to color and do fetishes
>>7599742
Don't listen to this tard

> study by coping
Number 11 was traced all over the outline of the tilted image, changing the head and hand position, still not built up from scratch.
We're wasting time here if you're not honest with us.

>>7599839
This one I did the blocking on top of her original and them I drew the body on top of the block, not on top of the original, like this
I had too because the angle was very hard to grasp. Some others were also made like this but not tracing

>>7599742
Thanks for sharing. I haven't had time to try to understand and fix the hips like 7599290 said

>>7599820
How do you like my coloring? I only have this one example so far (the knight in the image)

>>7599796
>>7599811
>>7599820
sorry for trying, it's how I usually approach hips

>>7599276 (OP)
Sauce on 28?

>>7599276 (OP)
Go do some original work, what are we supposed to tell from studies besides trivial mistakes? The colored piece at least is certainly not appeal maxxed and besides the face the forms are flat. If you want to do commissions to a high standard you should probably be doing just that for practise instead of a slew of studies where you aren't actively thinking about like 80% of what goes into a commission besides the raw mark making and observation.

>>7600898
The idea of using Baalbuddy and Aleria is simple: to learn from them.
It’s really common during the study process to not know what to do — like which pose to use, or even whether the figure is correct — especially when you’re studying alone, like I am.
That’s why I used both of them as references, since I admire them a lot.

I do create original stuff, but it’s always hard when you’re scared of messing up the face proportions, the torso length, or just feeling like everything looks wrong.
People usually learn by painting the Mona Lisa — and it’s the same in art studies. A lot of painters redo famous works over and over until they figure out where they want to go in fine art.

Anyway, I don’t know if it upset you that I used other artists’ work. If it did, I’m really sorry — but it was the best I could do without access to courses, just using Loomis’s books.
I’ve actually redrawn all of his book exercises by hand to study and practice.

Below is one of my current pieces. I still get scared of making mistakes and not knowing if I’m on the right path…

Thanks for the feedback. I promise I’ll work hard to make less stiff and more original poses. I promise.

>>7599820
Hahaha, thank you so much! I just read your reply — really, thank you.
I know how to paint, but what’s been bothering me is not knowing how to create something that’s close to semi-realism with a fantasy twist — that’s the style I’d really love to reach.

I don’t want to be just another artist drawing gross furry porn or only big-boobed girls with nothing interesting beyond that.
I want something that feels more like mine — something with identity, with soul.

That’s why I’m using Baalbuddy, Aleria V, and even Maggi88888 as inspiration — I feel like their style is something I can actually aim for.

>>7599276 (OP)
>I have four cats to feed prices continue to go up.
2 of those cats can solve the problem of the other 2 needing to be fed.

>>7602643
Of course studies are fine and mb for being stark but this board is just full of howies asking how to do something when it's right in front of them and it's getting to me I guess. Not that you are one of them as you put in effort but it's not as useful to give tips or redline studies than original work as with a study you already have the perfect/goal version of the artwork. These are easily passing for commission work, it's not like you are interviewing for a company, but again, people often want full illustrations and these are on the somewhat refined sketch stage. Out of these only thing that really sticks out to me are the bangs of 4. Even if it's on model you don't want to clumsily cover the eye, just give the hair a bit more flow and I think it would look better. Commissions are 90% subject matter and putting yourself out there rather than technical skill

>>7602643
you need to stop using "studies" as a crutch and tackle this insecurity towards creating original work head on. you can't let the fear of failure hold you back, it's a natural part of the creative process. if you don't, you'll keep amassing an ever-growing collection of studies of art you didn't make. stop thinking too much about it and just create more. you clearly have the fundamental ability to do so, now it's time for you to practice the design and compositional elements of illustrations.

god speed. i know you'll make it.

>>7602934
Hehe, thanks for the reply. Honestly, it also annoys me when people ask how to learn something that’s literally right in front of them.
I do have a lot of my own drawings, but yeah, I really don’t want to be mediocre — I don’t know if you get what I mean.

I usually draw for myself, and I think posting a little on the chan might help me. You know, I’m a shy woman and it’s hard for me to talk to people, especially about the things I like.

Studying art is really hard. Even with a real model in front of you and everything available to analyze and correct — it’s still not easy.
I’ll post below one of the studies I did of mouths, eyes, ears, etc… even though I have a sketchbook with over 200 drawings, before I started copying Aleria and Baalbuddy, I had no clue how to put things together and actually make something.
What little understanding I have now came from copying both of them and figuring out how they work.

Anyway, thank you for pointing that out to me. Commissions are tough. My next step will be trying to understand backgrounds — but if the 'main dish', which is the character, isn’t great, then background, lore, perspective, color… none of it matters.

>>7599276 (OP)
keep at what you are doing because you are better than 90% of the crab retards in this board. and by 90 I mean 99. Most people here are beg if not entirely no draws.

>>7599276 (OP)
and unironically GMI. Look at my trips of truth!>>7603000

>>7603004
>and unironically GMI. Look at my trips of truth!>>7603000
hehehehehe Thanks, but I don’t really know how to react to that hahahaha

>>7600011
It wasn't that bad. Notice how no one else is willing to redline or show their work?
Everyone is just as bad

>>7602643
do you sketch a lot? i mean like small doodles or drawings rather than just studies. i find it helps to draw little things without expecting them to be good or intending to show them to anybody. it helps get over that initial fear of having to make something pretty and presentable as well as to get your ideas flowing.

also, i think your art is already good enough for commissions. i'll be honest and say it's not that refined or interesting to me, but i've seen wayy worse artists get commissions. the real deciding factor is how fast you draw, especially when you've got multiple requests in your backlog

>>7603637
Wooow, what you said was actually really interesting.
Yes, I do a lot of sketching — which is kind of a problem for me. I know that doing tons of sketches is often a sign of insecurity. Basically, I act almost exactly like Bocchi the Rock for like 70% of my day, so yeah, I’m pretty insecure hahaha.

Basically, I did all of this while starting this thread and replying to you guys.
In short, I work pretty fast when I’m doing things on my own, but when I’m studying something, I take a bit longer.

As for small doodles — sometimes I do little scribbles of cats or sweets.

>>7604173
Most of your stuff is not in perspective, even your copies. Most of your stuff loses proportions, even your copies. Your anatomy is also inconsistent. You have good lines and can render, but it´s makeup on a wobbly foundation.

are you afraid of feet on the ground? why is everyone floating, sitting, or has their shins cut off?

>>7604173
I think you're on the right track. As an autodidact I can tell you're a capable self-critic.

In order to create interesting poses, believable anatomy and characters that live actual lives you have to expand your visual library.
I started sketching everything, studying cars, architecture, gestures, tons of anatomy drawings.
Right now I open pinterest and tab 30-40 images of people in different perspectives, doing mundane tasks, lifting, playing sports, lounging outside.
Then I focus on maybe expanding another aspect of drawing like clothes.

When I started I approached gestural drawings like I would an illustration. Now I can do a 100 in a day and still have plenty of time left to work on my freehand drawings.

It's like you just have to go through the sheer volume of shlt drawings until things start to come together. The brain is incredibly capable and from experience it would seem to me that we are the ones who limit ourselves by limiting beliefs mostly.

I'm writing all this to maybe give you some idéas as it seems we have some similarities in how we go about doing things.

As some other anon said; anatomy/ gestures. Lean into thinking of things in 3D space. Look at references and notice joints as points in a 3D space to more accurately determine their position in relation to eachother and the world around them, tilt of pelvis, subtle changes when the body contorts. Type anatomy on pinterest and just grind sketches until it clicks.Trust me it will. Couple that with gestures, clothing and you're well on your way.
Light and shadow, color and light is another beast entirely but all of this takes time. Be patient and trust the process.

I think this kind of obsessive/ grindy way of going about it will yield the fastest results but it's also a quick way to burnout. So don't neglect that part of you that started drawing in the first place. Nurture it.
Best of luck.

Great work,

i think youre struggling with what overlap, especially around joints. the joint dont seem to connect to the torso properly.
i recommend studying from real life for a bit, and looking at tomfox's book, itll help you a lot.

REGARDLESS, GREAT WORK, you're doing a very good job and working very hard, you are not an eternal beg, you're literally grinding like an eternal chad.
never stop, dont be afraid, if you feel stuck, dont take a break (they're lying fags, you can do this), just try to do the same thing in a different way. (if tired of studying from art, study from human references.