ive been posting everyday but i rarely get any likes how are non-verified accounts supposed to get any traction? i dont want to pay the musk either so thats out of the question

remember when /ic/ wasn't obsessed with chasing social media clout?

>>7606141 (OP)
I don't really understand it either. People say hashtags, but i follow a bunch of japanese artists with random ass usernames that never use hastags or not even any text at all yet all their drwaing always get thousands of likes often multiples times the amount of their followers.

>he missed the twitter train
ngmi

>>7606141 (OP)
I actually know a good method. No way I gonna share it. Especially in this economy.

>>7606141 (OP)
>have your non-artist buddies and fans from outside twitter follow you
>follow nobody
>use that one tool to tell when is a good time to post tweets
>buy blue, I think you can hide the badge now - if your account is newer than 2023 or so, musk implemeted a thing that keeps new accounts from spreading without paying to both combat bot spam and make money off it
>act like a brand, interact with nobody, just post your shit. Even bookmarks, do not use them

>>7606154
hashtag works as well as normal text, but if a fandom hasa hashtag, they can click on it to search but yeah, popular artists can post art and rely on followers to retweet.
>>7606141 (OP)
Non-verified artists get pop-ups all the time. You just have to draw fan art and be good at it. Post it on their official Reddit and Discord, link it back to Twitter. If you draw it good you can gain easy follower

>>7606205
>be good at it.
that's optional

I have some great theories about getting traction on X . But I am rocking 1 pity like average so I won't bother mentioning anything.

you are focused on the wrong thing. you’re trying to get the attention of humans when what you should really be doing is just posting and let the algorithm do it’s thing. You will be discovered eventually, just enjoy the moment of peace period.

>>7606141 (OP)
Draw popular shit. Art of popular character pairs or "ships" does numbers

>>7606388
>just posting and let the algorithm do it’s thing. You will be discovered eventually
hell no

>>7606423
when people discover you, they'll look at your past uploads, and you can even repost them anyways so whats the problem?

>>7606430
proof?

>>7606431
what proof? You're free to reupload whatever you want on twitter after you get discovered, then people will see your new art.

>>7606154
>>7606205
Hashtags don't work.

>>7606388
Somewhat correct. The issue is trying to get the attention of humans ON TWITTER.
You get their attention elsewhere, and they give you a baseline and steady drip. You use twitter's algo to boost you to people who would never have known about you in the first place.

The point of twitter is not to be popular on twitter, its to drag people from the big open area into your virtual studio/gallery/storefront where they can see your works in a more relaxed setting, your process, and - for some of them - cultivate a desire to pay you so you keep doing what you do.

>>7606420
This bites you in the ass in the longrun. Do you want your audience to be the people who do not give a fuck about anything besides popular shit? Really? You think they're going to support your art 20 years later instead of moving onto the next thing?

>>7606431
The people who don't do that would never pay you in the first place, they're a non-factor for anything besides boosting your numbers so you get to the people who WILL dig thru your stuff, and then some of those will want to pay you.

>>7606723
>You get their attention elsewhere
As someone with extremely scattered interests do I just show up in EACH community of the things I consume??

>>7606723
Tags work, but your work has to be good. Appealing or funny or whatever, someone needs a reason to stop scrolling and hit the RT button

>>7606804
Tags do not work. Elon neutered them months ago.
>>7606802
Yes. And also smaller groups.

>>7606826 again
I should elaborate.
The reason tags were kill is because it's not advantageous to businesses and the algo on twitter (and instagram much earlier than that) became advanced enough to not need them. They are a legacy system that is still active because it serves as a honeypot for people who don't know what they're doing. Thirdie spammers trying to grow their garbage content accounts, bots, etc are who get dumpstered by it, as do non-professional random people, and the kinds of crappy companies who have done 0 research.

It curates them OUT of the algo.

>>7606141 (OP)
Just draw completely shit ""FANART"""" and let the memberberries bullshit bring everyone on in. Who cares if the composition is fucking awful, the colors are a technicolor fucking nightmare. Just add furries, classic cartoons and tracing and you will guaranteed succeed!

>>7606804
Hashtags actually work, or at least they give you a bit more interactions. They are not as powerful as rule34 tags but it’s better than nothing

>>7606959
They do not work. There is loads of evidence of this.
In fact if you have more than 1 your shit takes a 40% tweepcred penalty.

Stop repeating this myth, it's not 2020 anymore, things have changed..

>>7606723
>Hashtags don't work.
It works if a VTuber or any celeb claims that tag for their art, they and their viewer actively click on it, or any event with an official hashtag.
But yeah, hashtags haven't worked algorithmically for years, probably, and Elon only reveals it

>>7607299
Yea, for a vtuber or celeb who claims a hashtag it's a way to quickly filter such things by clicking their profile, but you don't actually have to put the hash sign in it. The searches for the hashtag and unhashed are exactly the same.

You need to enter a fandom and get some small viral drawings. This requires being good but the more niche the fandom or the more creative your drawings are, the less skilled you have to be. When you are in a fandom and people search, they'll see your art and like it if its good. Then you grow and grow, that's how you do it.
You can draw other things you want too, but the fanart will be what brings people to your page and get you discovered.

>>7606141 (OP)
Why do you even care to post on there? Maybe 10 years ago, it would've been worthwhile. So much of the users on there are actually bots and sock puppet accounts.
No meaningful engagement beyond watching a follower count or like count go up. This is how you make yourself more miserable, jaded, and hate the actual act of making art.
Just enjoy creating and make the posting a complete afterthought. Post it anywhere and forget it type of mentality. Fretting over it will not make you any happier, I can guarantee you this. You can do as you please, obviously,

>>7606145
It's a disorder stemming from addiction, insecurity, uncertainty, and loneliness.

>>7607616
Honestly I think people just want to make some money.

>>7607617
This is one of the dumbest ways to do it, then. Who the hell gets into art to make money?
Might as well drop the bullshit pretense and start using AI to generate slop if that's the primary goal.

Maybe you can make drawings about fandom content, meme dynamics etc. The problem is that you should be fast xD But first trying to ask yourself. What type of content do you want to focus? A graphic designer friend, tell me about an artist that he begins creating illustration about idols like Pokémon trainers, so he focuses about character design.

>>7606141 (OP)
>i rarely get any likes how are non-verified accounts supposed to get any traction?
Draw some Pokémon, Super Mario, or popular gacha gamw fanart and add the appropriate hash tags to the post.

>>7607180
You just want to keep other artists from flooding the algorithm, good idea anon.

Are we just gonna commenting the same crab ideology or can we use this thread to promote our X account?

>>7606141 (OP)
>>7606154
The problem is that your art is not appealing at all. Even if you paid for some super hyper twitter ad campaign package that plastered your art on everyone's feed, people would just scroll past it anyway. Japs don't need any promotion or hashtags because most of them make very appealing art.

>>7606906
Welcome back, Dobson.

>>7606141 (OP)
Unironically draw fanart for your favorite artists characters and hope they retweet you. If your art is of decent quality, hell even 'good enough' quality, you'll get a fair amount of eyes on you.
Also don't follow a lot of people, as twitter's algorithm likes people who follow few people. Also don't draw anything naked because the algorithm will see that, and if you're not popular enough, your art will reach basically nobody. Safe-lewd is the best.
One final thing, only have one image in your post. If you attach alts or multiple drawings in one post, people glance over that shit.

This is my experience from being a pretty small artist that gets what feels like disproportionally too many likes for what I draw.

>>7606141 (OP)
What happened with the self promotion threads?

>>7608141
/beg/ overload

I fell off the Twitter bandwagon and went to BSky... what a fuckin' mistake. Been slowly trying to start posting to Twitter again and you can definitely feel the algo's hatred. I've noticed that on Twitter my posts really get hammered for the first hour or so (when the algorithm ranks the quality of your posts) and then maybe picks up; whereas on BSky, a good post does well straight away. So yeah, now I get to watch my stuff get 1/4-1/2 the engagement of my peers on Twitter while it actually outperforms on BSky. Basically, if you're in, you're in. Otherwise, as others have said, you have to keep posting until you're in. Since I haven't been posting constantly to Twitter, it treats me like dogshit. (For ref, I'm comparing to similar sized accounts, 20k on BSky, 50k on Twitter)

>>7606141 (OP)
I don't have twatter, but experience on other sites tells me tags and latching onto popular franchises helps.

>>7607855
Sure, post your account. I'll give something a like if you put in some effort

make friends with popular artists, normally my stuff gets 1k views and 50-100 likes, but when large accounts rt i get 5k likes and gain a couple hundred followers

>>7606141 (OP)
You don't even get anywhere with a verified account. Social media is a scam. You have to buy followers and likes if you if you aren't a virtue signaling clout goblin.

>>7607849
No, the algo actually penalizes it. Tweepcred is what the statistic is called.

>>7608011
>draw fanart for your favorite artists characters
Make sure to not tag them in the first post, only the reply. That also penalizes for some reason.

>>7608859
>bsky
Bsky is the anti-twitter so you have to act like the complete opposite person on it. Everything that twitter penalizes you for, bsky encourages. Everything that helps you on twitter, causes you to get 0 traction on bsky. It's a mess.

>>7608862
As previously mentioned, tags do not work on twitter. Chasing FOTM is unsustainable as a human long-term. You get people who are interested in the FOTM and then don't engage, which hurts you if you have a large amount of followers who ignore your work. Or worse push the button to show less of it, despite following you.)

>>7613132
If your account was made recently, then yes you need blue. They implemented a system a while ago that any new accounts after a certain date would be subject to limits, as a way to cut down on bot/jeet spam and enforce API limits.

>>7613138
Sounds like Bsky is better and Musk is a retard. It's actually human friendly. Too bad it's a retarded cesspit.

>>7606835
Hastags were perfect. Since they got rid of them I see no new posts hardly anything.

>>7607617
yehp, If I didn't have to worry about money I wouldn't care about gaining traction on social media.

>>7606906
Hate this stupid alt history psyop bullshit. It's being used to plant false memories and rewrite history. Roy Jay Jay Roy whatever his name is. Go to/x/