Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:52:31 AM No.7609712
It all just boils down to a fucking popularity contest
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:01:17 AM No.7609717
>>7609712 (OP)
Just be popular doofball
Just be popular doofball
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:06:16 AM No.7609720
pyw
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:24:03 AM No.7609725
>>7609712 (OP)
yes, in the context of getting popular, you need to be popular. But to get better, you don't need to worry about all that, so go draw.
yes, in the context of getting popular, you need to be popular. But to get better, you don't need to worry about all that, so go draw.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:29:59 AM No.7609728
>>7609725
Ask every single artist if they'd rather be better or more popular and 99% of the time they will choose the latter
Ask every single artist if they'd rather be better or more popular and 99% of the time they will choose the latter
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:36:14 AM No.7609733
>>7609728
if your idea of "artists" is 12 year olds, sure
popularity is shit, give me a handful of whales over popularity any time
if your idea of "artists" is 12 year olds, sure
popularity is shit, give me a handful of whales over popularity any time
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:45:50 AM No.7609741
pyw
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:52:23 AM No.7609746
>>7609728
that's a pointless question because popularity is something given to you while skill is something you earn. Being given skill will not be satisfying to most artists while being given popularity means you can still draw the way you normally do.
that's a pointless question because popularity is something given to you while skill is something you earn. Being given skill will not be satisfying to most artists while being given popularity means you can still draw the way you normally do.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:30:00 AM No.7609761
>>7609712 (OP)
If we're talking business, yeah, it's going to depend heavily on your popularity.
Van Gogh died in poverty and obscurity, and his brother died working hard trying to make Van Gogh's work known posthumously it's only now that he's popular and well known that his work is in anyway profitable (very profitable, ironically).
Likewise, you can be the most creatively talented person out there, but if you don't gain any popularity, it can really be all for naught (at least while you're actually living). Knowing how to cultivate popularity is important.
That all said, your work is going to be one of the primary reasons for you're popularity - were Van Gogh's work not so distinct and unique, his legacy wouldn't be so large; he would, at best, only be an interesting side note for his depressing life, and his work only viewed through that lens.
We're lucky to live in a time when it's easier than ever to get your work out there and viewed by people, and by the people who likely would be most interested in your work. People whine about the algorithm now, but it's better than the art curators of yore and not even having the opportunity to put your work out there. Any opportunity they had previously, you have, and then some.
If we're talking business, yeah, it's going to depend heavily on your popularity.
Van Gogh died in poverty and obscurity, and his brother died working hard trying to make Van Gogh's work known posthumously it's only now that he's popular and well known that his work is in anyway profitable (very profitable, ironically).
Likewise, you can be the most creatively talented person out there, but if you don't gain any popularity, it can really be all for naught (at least while you're actually living). Knowing how to cultivate popularity is important.
That all said, your work is going to be one of the primary reasons for you're popularity - were Van Gogh's work not so distinct and unique, his legacy wouldn't be so large; he would, at best, only be an interesting side note for his depressing life, and his work only viewed through that lens.
We're lucky to live in a time when it's easier than ever to get your work out there and viewed by people, and by the people who likely would be most interested in your work. People whine about the algorithm now, but it's better than the art curators of yore and not even having the opportunity to put your work out there. Any opportunity they had previously, you have, and then some.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:46:14 AM No.7609807
>>7609712 (OP)
Yes. But art skill can be a factor. And if your popularity all comes from your image, you're just a clown.
Yes. But art skill can be a factor. And if your popularity all comes from your image, you're just a clown.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:43:19 PM No.7609892
It's not a contest. Other artists are not the reason why nobody likes your art.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:01:58 PM No.7609897
>>7609892
Actually it is a contest. Only some high ranking artist (who made it) would say it's not a contest.
Actually it is a contest. Only some high ranking artist (who made it) would say it's not a contest.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:02:02 PM No.7609898
>>7609712 (OP)
you mean art or life in general?
you mean art or life in general?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:06:52 PM No.7609902
>>7609897
What finite resources are artists fighting over?
What finite resources are artists fighting over?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:09:10 PM No.7609905
>>7609897
Of course it is. People need to see other artists as enemies and competitors.
Of course it is. People need to see other artists as enemies and competitors.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:13:48 PM No.7609907
>>7609902
Attention
Audience's money
Gallery Space
Art Jobs and gigs
Female Artists that aren't just larping sluts.
Attention
Audience's money
Gallery Space
Art Jobs and gigs
Female Artists that aren't just larping sluts.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:20:02 PM No.7609908
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:02:19 PM No.7609928
>>7609907
You aren't getting any of those just sitting here bitching about it. Go draw.
You aren't getting any of those just sitting here bitching about it. Go draw.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:11:50 PM No.7609931
>>7609712 (OP)
>It all just boils down to a fucking popularity contest
Is it your first day on earth kid? Of course it is. The more people that know about your product the more likely you will sell it no matter the skill level. If people like you they will support you, in almost anything you do. Artists working in the field for 20 years will tell you it's all about who you know.
>It all just boils down to a fucking popularity contest
Is it your first day on earth kid? Of course it is. The more people that know about your product the more likely you will sell it no matter the skill level. If people like you they will support you, in almost anything you do. Artists working in the field for 20 years will tell you it's all about who you know.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:19:51 PM No.7610016
>>7609902
jobs and money, the same finite resources every other profession is competing for, you fucking retard
jobs and money, the same finite resources every other profession is competing for, you fucking retard
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:24:46 PM No.7610027
>>7609928
Oh, I'm not bitching about it. I'm just answering another anon's question, because there's definitely finite resources that creatives of any industry must compete over. I'm not currently concerned about any of those things myself.
>>7609908
>Who’s fighting over girls?
Are you ten? What are you doing here?
Oh, I'm not bitching about it. I'm just answering another anon's question, because there's definitely finite resources that creatives of any industry must compete over. I'm not currently concerned about any of those things myself.
>>7609908
>Who’s fighting over girls?
Are you ten? What are you doing here?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:39:46 PM No.7610042
>>7609951
I don't get it. Do "male" Japanese online artists try to date other "female" Japanese online artists a lot irl or something?
I don't get it. Do "male" Japanese online artists try to date other "female" Japanese online artists a lot irl or something?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:24:17 PM No.7610075
>>7609907
>Attention
people doomscroll for hours, attention is not a finite resource
>Audience's money
if people like your art, they want to pay for YOUR art. this isn't like shopping for the best deal at a market, you are your own monopoly for your art
>Gallery Space
as if you're good enough to get your scribbles hosted at a gallery anyway
>Art Jobs and gigs
as if you're good enough to be allowed to work in a commercial setting
>Female Artists that aren't just larping sluts.
romantic partners are not a finite resource you absolute incel idiot
>Attention
people doomscroll for hours, attention is not a finite resource
>Audience's money
if people like your art, they want to pay for YOUR art. this isn't like shopping for the best deal at a market, you are your own monopoly for your art
>Gallery Space
as if you're good enough to get your scribbles hosted at a gallery anyway
>Art Jobs and gigs
as if you're good enough to be allowed to work in a commercial setting
>Female Artists that aren't just larping sluts.
romantic partners are not a finite resource you absolute incel idiot
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:50:43 PM No.7610113
>>7609712 (OP)
only applies if youre trying to make money off patreon
you can be employed with no followers
only applies if youre trying to make money off patreon
you can be employed with no followers
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:11:06 PM No.7610135
>>7610075
>people doomscroll for hours, attention is not a finite resource
You're also competing against everything else posted on those sites. Attention IS a finite resource.
>if people like your art, they want to pay for YOUR art. this isn't like shopping for the best deal at a market, you are your own monopoly for your art
If people like several artists, they'll want to pay for all of your art, yet their finances are finite, thus your audience's finances IS finite
>as if you're good enough to get your scribbles hosted at a gallery anyway
So you agree it is a finite resource then?
>as if you're good enough to be allowed to work in a commercial setting
So you agree it is a finite resource then?
>romantic partners are not a finite resource you absolute incel idiot
Oh sorry, I can tell from your post that I probably should have written "/sarcasm" at the end of that one, for the people of your mental capacity.
On that note, you probably shouldn't insult others intelligence - people in glass houses and all that.
But if we take that point seriously; are all women artists? No? Then Single Female Artists would be finite, no?
Do you just say and type thing without any thought whatsoever?
>people doomscroll for hours, attention is not a finite resource
You're also competing against everything else posted on those sites. Attention IS a finite resource.
>if people like your art, they want to pay for YOUR art. this isn't like shopping for the best deal at a market, you are your own monopoly for your art
If people like several artists, they'll want to pay for all of your art, yet their finances are finite, thus your audience's finances IS finite
>as if you're good enough to get your scribbles hosted at a gallery anyway
So you agree it is a finite resource then?
>as if you're good enough to be allowed to work in a commercial setting
So you agree it is a finite resource then?
>romantic partners are not a finite resource you absolute incel idiot
Oh sorry, I can tell from your post that I probably should have written "/sarcasm" at the end of that one, for the people of your mental capacity.
On that note, you probably shouldn't insult others intelligence - people in glass houses and all that.
But if we take that point seriously; are all women artists? No? Then Single Female Artists would be finite, no?
Do you just say and type thing without any thought whatsoever?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:12:25 PM No.7610138
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:40:08 PM No.7610174
>>7609761
>Van Gogh died in poverty and obscurity
Yeah he only got enough money to support like a family of ten. Sure, like none of it was from his own work, but still.
>Just have rich family.
>Van Gogh died in poverty and obscurity
Yeah he only got enough money to support like a family of ten. Sure, like none of it was from his own work, but still.
>Just have rich family.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:01:40 PM No.7610203
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:02:42 PM No.7610205
>>7610174
Huh, the more you know. The point still stands, but it's interesting that he's always portrayed as being near destitute, or a classic picture of the starving artist, while actually having lived on funds most of us will never have.
I guess it just adds more 'romanticism' to the story if he was poor.
Huh, the more you know. The point still stands, but it's interesting that he's always portrayed as being near destitute, or a classic picture of the starving artist, while actually having lived on funds most of us will never have.
I guess it just adds more 'romanticism' to the story if he was poor.