Been slacking since May and I wanna hit that beginner-to-intermediate level in the next 6 months. How much should I be drawing daily to improve like 1 hour, 2, or 3? What do you think works best?

>>7612535 (OP)
the time you invest is a multiplicative factor in how effective your practice is, it won't matter if you spend 8 hours a day if you just keep making the same mistakes over and over.

just follow the david finch roadmap and do a minimum of 8 pages per week of studies

>>7612535 (OP)
step one: goon to cobson

>>7612535 (OP)
Draw Jay Cutler at different angles and poses like a billion times. You WILL become an anatomy god

>>7612535 (OP)
it depends on how swole you are. more muscle = more art gains.

>>7612535 (OP)
let the coom motivate you like it did for me

>>7612552
>the time you invest is a multiplicative factor in how effective your practice is, it won't matter if you spend 8 hours a day if you just keep making the same mistakes over and over.
yes
>just follow the david finch roadmap and do a minimum of 8 pages per week of studies
diabolical bad advice

>>7612535 (OP)
Imo, if you're serious about it, you need to wake up at 4 and draw. Also doodle as much as possible in the job and commute. Then draw for a few more hours after dinner. Fasting, like skipping breakfast and dinner, will give you even more time to draw.
Not saying to do it until you die, but it's useful to keep this for a while.

For procrastination, try:
- https://www.laurieherault.com/articles/a-thermal-receipt-printer-cured-my-procrastination He basically says you need something physical. His solution is writing the task on post-its. One task per post-it. Or using a receipt printer.
- https://waitbutwhy.com/2013/10/why-procrastinators-procrastinate.html It's the old (and true) advice that the best way is to just start. The brain/subconscious will take care of the procrastination by itself.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7kh8pNRWOo&t=1453s He basically says you need to be aware of your thoughts, emotion, physical sensation. In the sense of (mindfulness) meditation and CBT. Just being aware of them will tone down the urge to procrastinate a lot.

this guy will never draw
we get so many threads like this
he likes the idea of being good at drawing not actually drawing

>>7612684
Pyw and what you recommend instead then

>>7612709
No by all means follow mr finch. My journey is mine alone.

>>7612535 (OP)
You can improve pretty much any skill massively in 6 months. Just treat it like a job, 6-8 hours of intense study/practice at least 5 days a week. Helps to have a roadmap or plan of study so you're not just fucking around, but even so a dedicated 6 hours a day 5 days a week for 6 months of doodling would probably bring pretty decent improvement, provided you at least somewhat try.
If you want to maximize gains, find classes too, or like figure drawing sessions, it helps to be around other people doing the same and having a dedicated schedule with deadlines for work and improvement plus the competitive aspect to mog your classmates.

>>7612535 (OP)
Drawing daily I guess. I found learning to draw is like learning a bike. Even if you fail at first if you keep doing it constantly at some point youre going to learn it and reach the "doing it without thinking about it" stage. Process wise I would suggest picking up 2 course books and then 3 books from your favorite artists and copy/study them.
Consistency is the key imo (just draw woah) but whatever suits you I guess.

>>7612731
Also this, validation is what drives people to keep doing this unless what they are doing is something to vent, people want attention from the things they draw which is true for every other hobby. So if you want to spice things up either a irl group or anything related online would work to keep your drive up.

>>7612731
>6-8 hours of intense study/practice at least 5 days a week.

You can improve fast, but telling a beginner they can put in 8 hours of study each day is delusional. Learning isn't like downloading info with no bumpy stops along the way. Learning how to do 1 thing incorrectly for 1 hour and then drilling in those mistakes for the next 7 hours is not productive.
> it helps to be around other people doing the same and having a dedicated schedule with deadlines for work

Sally sue's the single mom schedule is different from Fred's schedule and so on. Putting yourself in a position of comparing your output to others in different situations, regardless if you're in the same space, is also moronic.
>Process wise I would suggest picking up 2 course books and then 3 books from your favorite artists and copy/study them.
Wasted time. How is a beginner going to copy a complex form in a book at the start? They're wasting time.

You're better off asking Chatgpt. So much useless retards here.

>>7612743
And you can't think for yourself. Critically think about something before agreeing blindly. A community is helpful to see the assignments from those who came before you, but not as a "mogging contest".

>>7612713
lmao

>>7612535 (OP)
You need to have something specific in mind that you want to achieve. You don't just get
'better' at drawing past the fundamentals. But you can get better at drawing specific things.

>>7612535 (OP)
Atleast an hour or more. Have fun. Remember it's just practice and it'll come eventually. Learn patience.

>>7612555
>>7612535 (OP) (OP)
step one: goon to cobson

>>7612555
>>>7612535 (OP) (OP)
>step one: goon to cobson

>>7612535 (OP)
You can go from scribbling to /adv/ However you are not a genius so lets get realistic you are going to go from scribbling to /beg/ or more realistically you aren't going to get any significantly better

>>7612682
Grim

you can improve about tree fiddy much. what answer were you expecting, op? just draw for that amount of time and see what happens

>>7612535 (OP)
I went from 0 experience to getting a comm in 6 months

Just draw nigga

Others (at least the ones who didnt just call you a faggot, retard or nigger) probably already mentioned this, but you cannot quantify this as daily time spent. Mileage alone, 10k hours of output blah blah blah that doesnt equate to optimal growth, so it is impossible to use that for measuring progress.

And even then, the fact you completely fell off since early may tells me you would struggle to keep up whatever high daily output you set for yourself, then get depressed about it and completely stop for another 2 months just to make this same thread again. Instead, focus on consistently doing half an hour of actual drawing studies, that being copies, following along with exercises, figure drawing etc in addition to drawing at least one thing no matter how small or crappy for fun. Once you do this consistently for a month, ou can start thinking about all else. I think people will also be less gay about giving you helpful advice if you post your month worth of daily effort

>>7612535 (OP)
You can go from beg to high int in 6 months. I witnessed this in college.

>>7618333
cont'd because i remembered some other things

It also helps to not focus on too many things at once. If you allow yourself to constantly switch what you're studying, you'l;l also use studying one subject as an escape from studying the hard parts of another. Study one or two basic principles at a time until something clicks and a noticeable improvement in those areas can be seen. Only then do you switch your focus to study other things. That means you dont go back and forth between studying this or that body part then suddenly you try to draw facial expressions then weapon design then shadows
no.

bad /beg/.

You stick with 2 things until they click well enough. Not to a high skill level, but to something were your growth over the course of practice is something that makes you ecstatic. You need to end the effort on that positive feeling to help you remain consistent in the long run. I also feel this helps with retaining the info because your brain will seek out the same feeling again and again, but that may just be pseudo science

If you want to learn how to draw bodies better, first try copying a few drawings you like, not stroke for stroke, but the pose and placement of the parts to eachother. Then you move onto doing timed figure drawings with stylized forms

>>7618347
For 3D understanding, you should do the perspective course that can be found in the IC torrent. I think you can find it if you ask around. I myself no longer have the torrent directory, only it's contents. sorry. You'll want to look for the perspective course by Erik Olson. The clips in there are of varying length. The first couple of clips where he explains the course before going into the exercises that you should replicate should be watched in one go. After that, you can break it up into 1 or 2 clips a day until you become consistent. Doing these exercises will take care of any and all mindless grinding for backgrounds and will give you a solid understanding of perspective and 3D form. There's 21 lessons in the course which make up about 120 hours of video in total. At half an hour daily that would be a bit more than your 6 months, so I suggest as you advance and become consistent with your daily efforts, you increase the time input to get through it quicker.

I did say you should only pick 2 things at a time, so you can do this course on and off, but I personally find this one got me out of a rut in my own growth recently as well, so I would suggest you pull this one through in one go. Too timid to PMW, but I swear this course is not wasted time.

Why do people make these threads? Are they trying to find out if they should even start in the first place? Questions like this are a clear ngmi marker.

>>7618347
ps: the /fig/ general and Hide-Channels daily croquis playlist are great resources for improving figure drawing

>>7612555
>>7613135

kek