Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:44:57 AM No.7616363
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how the fuck do you apply this knowledge when drawing anime girls in voids - /ic/ (#7616363) [Archived: 578 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:25:30 AM No.7616400
>>7616363 (OP)
its the fundamental of perspective synthesized
its the fundamental of perspective synthesized
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:31:13 AM No.7616447
>>7616363 (OP)
You'd figure it out if you did the exercises from it.
You'd figure it out if you did the exercises from it.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:02:06 AM No.7616479
>>7616363 (OP)
You can’t. You can’t use the book for anime girls. Or any human figure in general.
You just eyeball it. Talent and experience matter.
You can’t. You can’t use the book for anime girls. Or any human figure in general.
You just eyeball it. Talent and experience matter.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:42:07 PM No.7616765
is this book actually good and worth going through?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:52:42 PM No.7616772
>>7616765
If you have to ask
If you have to ask
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:58:15 PM No.7616773
>drawing and sketching objects and environments
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:02:31 PM No.7616777
>>7616363 (OP)
judging by the cover, this book is for drawing inanimate objects.. why do you ask?
is this a shit post?
judging by the cover, this book is for drawing inanimate objects.. why do you ask?
is this a shit post?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:32:27 PM No.7616786
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:54:43 PM No.7616801
>>7616363 (OP)
how to draw tells you how to make 3d shapes, anime girls are made of 3d shapes. How to draw is probably a bit over precise for drawing anime girls, it might help for any props or environments you want to draw with them. Take a look at dynamic sketching, it's the same general idea as how to draw but in a more organic, just eye balling it kind of way. Studying how to draw will make you better at the dynamic sketching stuff but dynamic sketching will be more immediately useful. check out this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynxpq0E3Suk&list=PL9E67C703FE7F7D66&index=1 he uses this kind of very perspective focused approach to draw anime girls.
how to draw tells you how to make 3d shapes, anime girls are made of 3d shapes. How to draw is probably a bit over precise for drawing anime girls, it might help for any props or environments you want to draw with them. Take a look at dynamic sketching, it's the same general idea as how to draw but in a more organic, just eye balling it kind of way. Studying how to draw will make you better at the dynamic sketching stuff but dynamic sketching will be more immediately useful. check out this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynxpq0E3Suk&list=PL9E67C703FE7F7D66&index=1 he uses this kind of very perspective focused approach to draw anime girls.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:19:53 PM No.7617193
I'm starting to think this book is a meme, ive never seen a good artist who swears by this book. Quite the contrary, a few days ago I saw a video of a dude who was praising this book, I saw his drawings after a decade of study and it was the most begshit garbage imaginable, he is either absolutely untalented or he hasnt been actually drawing or this book is shit
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:46:58 PM No.7617215
>>7617193
Why would anyone praise a beginner level book? Anyone who actually knows how to draw is long past giving a shit about anything the book teaches.
Why would anyone praise a beginner level book? Anyone who actually knows how to draw is long past giving a shit about anything the book teaches.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:08:27 PM No.7617233
according to steven zapata, scott robertson himself doesn't really draw that way 99% of the time
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:27:40 PM No.7617254
>>7617233
Why would he? It's muscle memory for him.
Why would he? It's muscle memory for him.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:35:35 PM No.7617263
worst and most useless art book I ever bought. There's like a few good pages, multiplying rectangles every other technique follows from that and making perspective grids. And David Finch has better videos on both of those.
If you want to draw anime girls in a void with proper perspective you need Loomis.
If you want to draw anime girls in a void with proper perspective you need Loomis.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:45:12 PM No.7617340
>>7617233
This is how scott trained himself to be able to do perspective sketching. He used to draw like this, now he can do it in his head.
>>7616777
There's also sections on organic forms. It's ok if you don't like the book, someone else may be easier for you to understand.
I hate gutpill's books but that doesn't make them useless.
This is how scott trained himself to be able to do perspective sketching. He used to draw like this, now he can do it in his head.
>>7616777
There's also sections on organic forms. It's ok if you don't like the book, someone else may be easier for you to understand.
I hate gutpill's books but that doesn't make them useless.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:08:21 PM No.7617361
>>7616363 (OP)
even scott doesnt use this, its outdated
even scott doesnt use this, its outdated
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:25:40 AM No.7617463
>>7617361
Basic linear perspective is outdated, guys. We gotta go hyperbolic.
Basic linear perspective is outdated, guys. We gotta go hyperbolic.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:45:30 AM No.7617485
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:50:50 AM No.7617490
>>7617485
Drawabox
Perspective Made Easy
Perspective Drawing Handbook
Framed Perspective
The Art of Perspective
Perspective Without Pain
Take your pick, there are many
Drawabox
Perspective Made Easy
Perspective Drawing Handbook
Framed Perspective
The Art of Perspective
Perspective Without Pain
Take your pick, there are many
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:54:14 AM No.7617493
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 1:00:10 AM No.7617498
>>7617493
Im not the anon that said not to use How to Draw. I just think the retard crabs aren't going to have any recommendations since they don't draw, and I don't want anon to have no other option if he dislikes that book.
Im not the anon that said not to use How to Draw. I just think the retard crabs aren't going to have any recommendations since they don't draw, and I don't want anon to have no other option if he dislikes that book.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 1:20:32 AM No.7617503
>>7617498
>Im not the anon that said not to use How to Draw
You had the option to shut up. Are you lonely or something?
>Im not the anon that said not to use How to Draw
You had the option to shut up. Are you lonely or something?
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 1:57:28 AM No.7617538
>>7617233
teaching perspective in this way is to teach the logic
you can't sketch with perspective from intuition unless you understand the formal
its like learning your ABCs before you understand how to write sentences
teaching perspective in this way is to teach the logic
you can't sketch with perspective from intuition unless you understand the formal
its like learning your ABCs before you understand how to write sentences
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:06:30 AM No.7617549
>>7616765
its actually pretty autistic with the pespective and geometric workflow, so yes.
its actually pretty autistic with the pespective and geometric workflow, so yes.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:22:41 AM No.7617560
>>7617549
Only fake autists hate Scott
Only fake autists hate Scott
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:04:09 AM No.7617586
>>7617538
The logic is summarized in like two pages by Walt stanchfield. Idk why everyone acts things diminishing as they move away is some giga high IQ concept. Literally every beg understands perspective enough to draw a door frame, what they can't do is draw figures in a cohesive scene like Loomis teaches.
The logic is summarized in like two pages by Walt stanchfield. Idk why everyone acts things diminishing as they move away is some giga high IQ concept. Literally every beg understands perspective enough to draw a door frame, what they can't do is draw figures in a cohesive scene like Loomis teaches.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:56:18 AM No.7617622
>>7617586
Post your perspective.
Post your perspective.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:35:59 AM No.7617665
>>7617586
Talk to me when you can plot out a teacup rotating while a light flies over it and casts accurate shadows with nothing but a pencil, ruler, and paper. Otherwise you can shut the fuck up and leave now.
Talk to me when you can plot out a teacup rotating while a light flies over it and casts accurate shadows with nothing but a pencil, ruler, and paper. Otherwise you can shut the fuck up and leave now.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:11:40 AM No.7617718
>>7617665
That's actually not that hard just tedious and requires ellipse guides.
That's actually not that hard just tedious and requires ellipse guides.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 7:56:20 AM No.7617760
>>7617718
Then do it. Show us how easy it is.
Then do it. Show us how easy it is.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:34:26 AM No.7617776
>>7616363 (OP)
this shit doesn't make sense. If I have to construct something, then by definition I can't draw it. If I have to copy a reference 1:1, then by definition I can't draw it. I only want to draw from imagination but I don't want to study and practice.
this shit doesn't make sense. If I have to construct something, then by definition I can't draw it. If I have to copy a reference 1:1, then by definition I can't draw it. I only want to draw from imagination but I don't want to study and practice.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:41:04 AM No.7617782
Why would you ever want to draw anime girls in voids?
lrdalucard
6/22/2025, 9:29:14 AM No.7617800
If you can't visualise objects in space, you can't draw it properly.
And yes, perspective can(and must) be used on humans as well. The most simple form of applying this fundamental is draw something in perspective and draw a Rectangle in that perspective. The character goes inside that rectangle, respecting all agles.
Ex: If you draw a cube from above, than we need to see the character drawn from above as well.
Do you need to read that entire book and understand every single thing? No, but you definitely should learn at least the basics for 1,2 and 3 point perspective, and maybe how to measure things in perspective/space just for safety.
A good rule of thumb in drawing, if an artists can't draw a cube in perspective, than that artist can never draw anything on paper.
Just like you wouldn't trust a cop that doesn't know the law or handle a gun to keep you safe. Same principle applies.
Also you can't draw something from imagination if you never seen/analyze it in the 1st place. Its a commun trap beginner artists fall in to. Visual library is a thing... yes.
And yes, perspective can(and must) be used on humans as well. The most simple form of applying this fundamental is draw something in perspective and draw a Rectangle in that perspective. The character goes inside that rectangle, respecting all agles.
Ex: If you draw a cube from above, than we need to see the character drawn from above as well.
Do you need to read that entire book and understand every single thing? No, but you definitely should learn at least the basics for 1,2 and 3 point perspective, and maybe how to measure things in perspective/space just for safety.
A good rule of thumb in drawing, if an artists can't draw a cube in perspective, than that artist can never draw anything on paper.
Just like you wouldn't trust a cop that doesn't know the law or handle a gun to keep you safe. Same principle applies.
Also you can't draw something from imagination if you never seen/analyze it in the 1st place. Its a commun trap beginner artists fall in to. Visual library is a thing... yes.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 9:34:53 AM No.7617801
>>7617776
Of course it doesn't make sense because your definitions are those of an autistic 13 year old.
Of course it doesn't make sense because your definitions are those of an autistic 13 year old.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 10:15:19 AM No.7617811
>>7616363 (OP)
you literally spend your time autistically projecting lines to shapes with Void background, what the fuck
you literally spend your time autistically projecting lines to shapes with Void background, what the fuck
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:02:04 AM No.7617819
>>7616456
Why did no one reply to this, it's very good.
Why did no one reply to this, it's very good.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:38:59 PM No.7618067
>>7616456
Is it me or did they not fuck up the far arm rest/controller? on the left side?
Is it me or did they not fuck up the far arm rest/controller? on the left side?
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 7:07:16 PM No.7618094
>>7617490
op here, thanks for the recommendations! I'll try to give these a read soon.
op here, thanks for the recommendations! I'll try to give these a read soon.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:09:20 AM No.7618503
>>7617233
>This retarded grifting faggot again
He doesnt even fucking draw. All of his process was just tracing over 3d models and nowadays he is just another NFT scammer.
The book goes into extremely autistic detail about how to apply a very solid and simple process (linear perspective) on all kinds of planes, projections and random usecases that you will literally never fucking use because anyone just references 3d models or actual architecture.
It is more of a workbook than a course.
Just get the very basics of linear perspective like the lectures and you are good to go.
If you want to go through a million superflous exercises that literally nobody uses and just praises as an achievement then use Scott Robertson's.
You will come to realize that people praise and name this book not as a helpful resource that will make anons learn but as an achievement.
>Yeah, that thick book filled with perspective exercises? I finished it! You heard me right.
>This retarded grifting faggot again
He doesnt even fucking draw. All of his process was just tracing over 3d models and nowadays he is just another NFT scammer.
The book goes into extremely autistic detail about how to apply a very solid and simple process (linear perspective) on all kinds of planes, projections and random usecases that you will literally never fucking use because anyone just references 3d models or actual architecture.
It is more of a workbook than a course.
Just get the very basics of linear perspective like the lectures and you are good to go.
If you want to go through a million superflous exercises that literally nobody uses and just praises as an achievement then use Scott Robertson's.
You will come to realize that people praise and name this book not as a helpful resource that will make anons learn but as an achievement.
>Yeah, that thick book filled with perspective exercises? I finished it! You heard me right.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:00:41 AM No.7618671
>>7618503
Lectures?
Lectures?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:50:34 AM No.7618716
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:33:57 AM No.7618747
>>7618503
>He doesnt even fucking draw
Why are all the youtube videos linked in the book videos of him drawing
>He doesnt even fucking draw
Why are all the youtube videos linked in the book videos of him drawing
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:02:12 AM No.7618998
its more of a book for mecha and arch stuff the author is an industrial designer
>>7616363 (OP)
how the fuck do i do the oval shit i just keep getting it fucking wrong all the time
>>7616363 (OP)
how the fuck do i do the oval shit i just keep getting it fucking wrong all the time
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:05:44 AM No.7619001
>>7618998
Ovals are rough man, it's best to just get an oval template so you don't have to deal with that shit.
Ovals are rough man, it's best to just get an oval template so you don't have to deal with that shit.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:08:50 PM No.7619195
>>7617193
How To Draw/Render a little poser-core, in that most artists who swear by the book haven't read it, let alone actually use the techniques within.
It's a good book! But it's long, and doesn't like freehanding, and really isn't a good fit for most artists. If you want to draw what Scott Robertson draws, how Scott Robertson draws it then it's a must-read, if you don't, you know, find a tutor who draws how you want to draw, that simple.
How To Draw/Render a little poser-core, in that most artists who swear by the book haven't read it, let alone actually use the techniques within.
It's a good book! But it's long, and doesn't like freehanding, and really isn't a good fit for most artists. If you want to draw what Scott Robertson draws, how Scott Robertson draws it then it's a must-read, if you don't, you know, find a tutor who draws how you want to draw, that simple.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:26:48 PM No.7619212
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:53:17 PM No.7619234
>>7617776
You dont even draw so of course it doenst make sense to you anyway
You dont even draw so of course it doenst make sense to you anyway
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:57:51 PM No.7619238
>>7618292
It still looks good so its fine.
It still looks good so its fine.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:05:45 PM No.7619247
>>7619195
>and doesn't like freehanding
but that's literally the first exercise in the book. and if you watch his videos it's what he does too
>and doesn't like freehanding
but that's literally the first exercise in the book. and if you watch his videos it's what he does too
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:21:04 PM No.7619261
>>7619195
i for myself did read it and did some exsercices, the book can teach you to draw something step-by-step or it can also teach you to understand the theory behind it and understand the sense of it if you draw something from imagination or from reference.
i for myself did read it and did some exsercices, the book can teach you to draw something step-by-step or it can also teach you to understand the theory behind it and understand the sense of it if you draw something from imagination or from reference.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:16:24 AM No.7622009
>>7619195
He quite literally tells you in the book to freehand everything you noread-nodraw faggot.
He quite literally tells you in the book to freehand everything you noread-nodraw faggot.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:15:42 PM No.7622748
>>7616363 (OP)
Its for drawing the motocycle underneath your animegirl
Its for drawing the motocycle underneath your animegirl
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:18:25 AM No.7625725
>>7616456
Your perspective and forms need work, Flat
Your perspective and forms need work, Flat
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:21:09 AM No.7625728
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:08:35 PM No.7625767
>>7618292
>posts in a Scott Roberston thread
>doesn't measure
>wonky, bad perspective
Good coloring, though, possibly even /int/ overall
>posts in a Scott Roberston thread
>doesn't measure
>wonky, bad perspective
Good coloring, though, possibly even /int/ overall
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:26:13 PM No.7625778
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:12:02 PM No.7625988
>>7625882
good list.
Made a list of links for the artbook channel on my server:
>Ernest R. Norling - Perspective Made Easy
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2872490/44a373ac09/
>Joseph - D'amelio - Perspective Drawing Handbook
>https://ia800406.us.archive.org/26/items/PerspectiveDrawing/PerspectiveDrawing.pdf
>Marcos Mateu Mestre - Framed Perspective Vol 1.
>https://e-hentai.org/g/1556841/eccce2243e/
>Marcos Mateu Mestre - Framed Perspective Vol 2.
>https://e-hentai.org/g/1557413/4ed735b973/
>Craig Attebery - The Complete Guide To Perspective Drawing
>https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9781315443553_A35040111/preview-9781315443553_A35040111.pdf
>Dong Ho Kim - Space Drawing Perspective
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2405605/9ddd3d2ce5/
>Scott Robertson - How To Draw
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2873461/8766ed5d34/a
good list.
Made a list of links for the artbook channel on my server:
>Ernest R. Norling - Perspective Made Easy
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2872490/44a373ac09/
>Joseph - D'amelio - Perspective Drawing Handbook
>https://ia800406.us.archive.org/26/items/PerspectiveDrawing/PerspectiveDrawing.pdf
>Marcos Mateu Mestre - Framed Perspective Vol 1.
>https://e-hentai.org/g/1556841/eccce2243e/
>Marcos Mateu Mestre - Framed Perspective Vol 2.
>https://e-hentai.org/g/1557413/4ed735b973/
>Craig Attebery - The Complete Guide To Perspective Drawing
>https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9781315443553_A35040111/preview-9781315443553_A35040111.pdf
>Dong Ho Kim - Space Drawing Perspective
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2405605/9ddd3d2ce5/
>Scott Robertson - How To Draw
>https://e-hentai.org/g/2873461/8766ed5d34/a
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:57:38 PM No.7626055
>>7625776
They are right, the point is to eye ball it and its good enough once you know how to break the rules. You can also look at their blog.
They are right, the point is to eye ball it and its good enough once you know how to break the rules. You can also look at their blog.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:11:04 PM No.7627299
>>7625997
yeah, so you should completely ignore it
yeah, so you should completely ignore it
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:19:38 AM No.7628288
>>7616363 (OP)
It would be great if it wasn't so cryptic. I've yet to see a an explanation for "estimating rotation degree" pic related. There's one reddit post with no answer, it's a mystery.
It would be great if it wasn't so cryptic. I've yet to see a an explanation for "estimating rotation degree" pic related. There's one reddit post with no answer, it's a mystery.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:25:49 AM No.7628291
>>7616363 (OP)
By practicing "this knowledge" until it becomes second nature and you can apply it subconsciously to organic forms as well.
Or you can construct manequins out of simple shapes and then sculpt out the organic forms.
Both of these are absolutely obvious.
P.S. In order to become a decent artist you need a functional brain. Please reconsider your choices.
By practicing "this knowledge" until it becomes second nature and you can apply it subconsciously to organic forms as well.
Or you can construct manequins out of simple shapes and then sculpt out the organic forms.
Both of these are absolutely obvious.
P.S. In order to become a decent artist you need a functional brain. Please reconsider your choices.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:42:09 AM No.7628302
>>7628288
He's using proportions to divide up a known angle, and showing that the technique also works in perspective. It's really not cryptic at all.
If you want to nerd it out, the exact angle is the arctan of the aspect ratio. The numbers scott uses are actually pretty broad estimates.
He's using proportions to divide up a known angle, and showing that the technique also works in perspective. It's really not cryptic at all.
If you want to nerd it out, the exact angle is the arctan of the aspect ratio. The numbers scott uses are actually pretty broad estimates.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:03:34 AM No.7628324
>>7628302
It's in the grid chapter, what is the purpose of this in the context of grids? There's no explanation of what it's used for.
It's in the grid chapter, what is the purpose of this in the context of grids? There's no explanation of what it's used for.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:09:43 AM No.7628327
>>7628324
To use it to create a grid rotated to the angle you want to draw the scene at.
To use it to create a grid rotated to the angle you want to draw the scene at.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:17:18 AM No.7628330
>>7628327
The grid is already created in the right square and it says divide it "in perspective". This makes no sense.
The grid is already created in the right square and it says divide it "in perspective". This makes no sense.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:23:27 AM No.7628335
>>7628327
Never mind, you're right, it's worded poorly imo and I'm retarded.
Never mind, you're right, it's worded poorly imo and I'm retarded.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:13:47 AM No.7628417
>>7616363 (OP)
I'm using the knowledge i gained from this book to give my anime girl in void a gun
I'm using the knowledge i gained from this book to give my anime girl in void a gun
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:44:53 PM No.7628517
>>7616363 (OP)
>>7616765
Just drop it anon. I think I know exactly what youtube video you watched before you started with that book and I think you should find something else or just copy your favorite artists.
>>7616765
Just drop it anon. I think I know exactly what youtube video you watched before you started with that book and I think you should find something else or just copy your favorite artists.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:03:58 PM No.7628530
>>7628517
Like you're never ever gonna use this when drawing a cute girl. I know the guy in the video said "hurr learn fundamentals first!" but I don't think this is it. I made several of the pages into anki cards, so in that sense, I've reread them several times over and I still don't really understand it.
No anime girl will ever require you to know how to mirror a curve on a tilted plane and none of your favorite artists are doing that when they draw your favorite 2D girls.
I got filtered at this specific page when he told me to go to a later page in the book in order to understand a concept he was illustrating here.
Like you're never ever gonna use this when drawing a cute girl. I know the guy in the video said "hurr learn fundamentals first!" but I don't think this is it. I made several of the pages into anki cards, so in that sense, I've reread them several times over and I still don't really understand it.
No anime girl will ever require you to know how to mirror a curve on a tilted plane and none of your favorite artists are doing that when they draw your favorite 2D girls.
I got filtered at this specific page when he told me to go to a later page in the book in order to understand a concept he was illustrating here.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:15:30 PM No.7628602
>>7628530
you can totally use this to mirror boobs & hips
you can totally use this to mirror boobs & hips
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:26:16 PM No.7628657
>>7628530
you take the exercise to literally
this process is to improve your instincts at "feeling the form"
of course you're also suppose to make your own variants of this exercise with different angles as well
you take the exercise to literally
this process is to improve your instincts at "feeling the form"
of course you're also suppose to make your own variants of this exercise with different angles as well
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:38:15 PM No.7629038
>>7628657
>this process is to improve your instincts at "feeling the form"
i wouldnt call any of this 'feeling the form'. Im way too focused on how to make the tilted plane and where to place the diagonals to have any sort of concentration left for anything else.
>of course you're also suppose to make your own variants of this exercise with different angles as well
impossible. I did it multiple times, but it was just too many steps to remember and the outset each time was bad because i couldn't draw a tilted plane properly. The book didn't teach me how to draw a proper tilted plane, which you'd think is the one thing I should be able to learn from it.
>>7628602
yeah but it would take forever and I don't know any artists that do that, because none of them do it.
>this process is to improve your instincts at "feeling the form"
i wouldnt call any of this 'feeling the form'. Im way too focused on how to make the tilted plane and where to place the diagonals to have any sort of concentration left for anything else.
>of course you're also suppose to make your own variants of this exercise with different angles as well
impossible. I did it multiple times, but it was just too many steps to remember and the outset each time was bad because i couldn't draw a tilted plane properly. The book didn't teach me how to draw a proper tilted plane, which you'd think is the one thing I should be able to learn from it.
>>7628602
yeah but it would take forever and I don't know any artists that do that, because none of them do it.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:56:29 PM No.7629051
>>7629038
>i wouldnt call any of this 'feeling the form'
Nah, it is. Point is, the intuition of what perspective looks like is almost always wrong. Like, behind anatomy, this is the number one /beg/ dunnykru thing. Unless you actually practice drawing 'correct' perspective, you do not know what it actually looks like, and you *will* get it wrong when you guess. Even if you're just drawing a little bounding box to measure anime waifu proportions, you *will* get it wrong.
Also, the book teaches you how to measure a tilted plane literally right here: >>7628288
If you need guidance on how to draw a triangle, I don't think the book is going to help you regardless.
>i wouldnt call any of this 'feeling the form'
Nah, it is. Point is, the intuition of what perspective looks like is almost always wrong. Like, behind anatomy, this is the number one /beg/ dunnykru thing. Unless you actually practice drawing 'correct' perspective, you do not know what it actually looks like, and you *will* get it wrong when you guess. Even if you're just drawing a little bounding box to measure anime waifu proportions, you *will* get it wrong.
Also, the book teaches you how to measure a tilted plane literally right here: >>7628288
If you need guidance on how to draw a triangle, I don't think the book is going to help you regardless.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:10:21 AM No.7629146
>>7629038
>yeah but it would take forever and I don't know any artists that do that, because none of them do it.
you'll understand once you can freehand rotate a cube without a grid
>yeah but it would take forever and I don't know any artists that do that, because none of them do it.
you'll understand once you can freehand rotate a cube without a grid
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:24:31 AM No.7629165
>>7629051
>Nah, it is. Point is, the intuition of what perspective looks like is almost always wrong. Like, behind anatomy, this is the number one /beg/ dunnykru thing. Unless you actually practice drawing 'correct' perspective, you do not know what it actually looks like, and you *will* get it wrong when you guess
I believe everything you're saying here, I just can't fathom how this exercise is supposed to help bridge the gap between knowing on a technical level how to construct such tilted round object in persp using all those tools and actually understanding where a line might go without needing to rely on all the measurements and rote-memorized diagonals each time
You may say to this:
>but you have to use those everytime you want to construct an anime girl in correct persp
But do any of your or my favorite artists actually do that? If not, do you? Can I see your art? If you swear by whats in this book, then I want to see what you've made.
>Also, the book teaches you how to measure a tilted plane literally right here: >>7628288#
that page inconveniently comes after the part that filtered me where I would've needed it and reading through it now, I don't think I would've even guessed I'd be meant to use it for constructing a tilted upright plane. It says it's for 'perspective grid construction' in the earlier page.
>If you need guidance on how to draw a triangle, I don't think the book is going to help you regardless.
This is the specific exercise I'm referring to. I have to know how to draw a 'tilted surface' and the book, up until this point, hadn't taught me that and I each time I did this drill, I had to spend so much energy to get it right that my measurements would become off since I'd spent it all just trying to game the tilted surface. I can try and do a follow-up post where I draw on, so you can see how it sucks.
Even the other anon is confused by it and a lot of people have said that robinson isn't suited for beginners.
>Nah, it is. Point is, the intuition of what perspective looks like is almost always wrong. Like, behind anatomy, this is the number one /beg/ dunnykru thing. Unless you actually practice drawing 'correct' perspective, you do not know what it actually looks like, and you *will* get it wrong when you guess
I believe everything you're saying here, I just can't fathom how this exercise is supposed to help bridge the gap between knowing on a technical level how to construct such tilted round object in persp using all those tools and actually understanding where a line might go without needing to rely on all the measurements and rote-memorized diagonals each time
You may say to this:
>but you have to use those everytime you want to construct an anime girl in correct persp
But do any of your or my favorite artists actually do that? If not, do you? Can I see your art? If you swear by whats in this book, then I want to see what you've made.
>Also, the book teaches you how to measure a tilted plane literally right here: >>7628288#
that page inconveniently comes after the part that filtered me where I would've needed it and reading through it now, I don't think I would've even guessed I'd be meant to use it for constructing a tilted upright plane. It says it's for 'perspective grid construction' in the earlier page.
>If you need guidance on how to draw a triangle, I don't think the book is going to help you regardless.
This is the specific exercise I'm referring to. I have to know how to draw a 'tilted surface' and the book, up until this point, hadn't taught me that and I each time I did this drill, I had to spend so much energy to get it right that my measurements would become off since I'd spent it all just trying to game the tilted surface. I can try and do a follow-up post where I draw on, so you can see how it sucks.
Even the other anon is confused by it and a lot of people have said that robinson isn't suited for beginners.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:52:04 AM No.7629196
>>7629165
It really shouldn't be something that needs to be explained...
Making a basic arbitrary tilted plane is like elementary school geometry, bud. Use your head a bit.
It really shouldn't be something that needs to be explained...
Making a basic arbitrary tilted plane is like elementary school geometry, bud. Use your head a bit.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:40:19 AM No.7629231
>>7629196
That's not the problem I was having, that part is the one that's easy to figure out. It's just that I'm left with a result like this and I don't really know if this is correct and I had to spend several boring minutes on it.
That's not the problem I was having, that part is the one that's easy to figure out. It's just that I'm left with a result like this and I don't really know if this is correct and I had to spend several boring minutes on it.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:51:44 AM No.7629246
>>7629231
How did you possibly spend several minutes on that? It's a total of 12 lines. It's formulaic. There is zero guesswork involved with this.
How did you possibly spend several minutes on that? It's a total of 12 lines. It's formulaic. There is zero guesswork involved with this.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:56:05 AM No.7629253
>>7629231
And as you can tell, it looks like absolute shit. My brain keeps confusing the farthest bottom line with the nearest top line as they pretty much overlap. It sucks that robinson had me try to mirror a fucking arch on a surface like that. It made me feel cheated out of this supposed beginner book.
And as you can tell, it looks like absolute shit. My brain keeps confusing the farthest bottom line with the nearest top line as they pretty much overlap. It sucks that robinson had me try to mirror a fucking arch on a surface like that. It made me feel cheated out of this supposed beginner book.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:00:55 AM No.7629259
>>7616363 (OP)
it won't
it won't
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:08:19 AM No.7629264
>>7629246
I dunno...
I dunno...
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:01:27 AM No.7629493
>>7629231
Doing drawabox before reading this book helped me a lot.
Doing drawabox before reading this book helped me a lot.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:55:47 AM No.7629530
>>7629253
How to Draw isn't a beginner book...
How to Draw isn't a beginner book...
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:14:22 AM No.7629541
>>7629231
Its fucked up, because you went for a 3 point perspective without the vertical lines converging at one point. In a 2 point perspective, the lines would be parallel. The line in the back of the bottom is longer than the front too.
Its fucked up, because you went for a 3 point perspective without the vertical lines converging at one point. In a 2 point perspective, the lines would be parallel. The line in the back of the bottom is longer than the front too.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:38:01 AM No.7629573
>>7629231
I think you might be retarded. Sets of Parallel lines in an isomorphic view need to converge under perspective. Your vertical lines should all be going to the same bottom VP as you are looking down on the cube which is what gives you a 3 point perspective.
I think you might be retarded. Sets of Parallel lines in an isomorphic view need to converge under perspective. Your vertical lines should all be going to the same bottom VP as you are looking down on the cube which is what gives you a 3 point perspective.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:55:46 AM No.7629582
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:32:12 AM No.7629647
>>7629582
post your cubes
post your cubes
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:39:16 PM No.7629677
>>7629541
>>7629573
That actually explains it thanks. The book kinda did hinted at this, but it just said that my parallel verticals couldn't remain straight if I wanted to draw a structure that was vertically too long or something like that. I need to do something more basic and then maybee I can return to the book after that.
>>7629573
That actually explains it thanks. The book kinda did hinted at this, but it just said that my parallel verticals couldn't remain straight if I wanted to draw a structure that was vertically too long or something like that. I need to do something more basic and then maybee I can return to the book after that.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:08:55 PM No.7630184