A place for anons going through any of Andrew Loomis' books to post their work and help each other.

>What the fuck is a Loomis?
Andrew Loomis was an early 20th century American illustrator. Now he's probably best known for the Loomis Method for drawing a head in any position. In his day he published a number of art instruction books which were some of the first that were reasonably approachable for the general public. In ye olde internet days before the millions of art instruction grifters they were a readily available free resource.

>Why should I learn from some dead guy? Is he really that good?
Yes and no. the fundamentals of art are pretty much the same no matter what resource you use, but he admittedly has holes and blindspots throughout his books and he's a bit wordy compared to modern art instruction. For my part I'm just a hobbyist who likes old shit and thinks it could be fun to actually go through some of them and see if I can grow from permaBEG-let to permaBEG-man.

>Ok, so what are his books?
Fun With a Pencil - His beginner book. You vill draw 10,000 of ze funny bald men und you vill like it. Kind of a meme at this point as the book that killed a million begs. I'll be starting here, but people are free to go through whichever one they want.
Figure Drawing for All It's Worth - Self-explanatory
Drawing the Head and Hands - This and Figure Drawing are probably his two most recommended books. They're more focused than his other books and are still really good resources for their topics.
Successful Drawing - A more serious fundamentals course than FWaP, but probably not great for absolute BEGs. A lot of information about perspective.
Creative Illustration -. Covers higher level topics that focus more on developing and following through on a completed illustration

>How can I get them?
Google "<book you want> + pdf"

First page. I won't post every single blook I draw, but I'll at least post enough checkpoints to keep the thread alive if interest is low

>>7626471 (OP)
Good thread anon. Studying Loomis is always good for any artist

>>7626471 (OP)

>>7626471 (OP)
Also, here’s a link to all the books

https://alexhays.com/loomis/

>>7626471 (OP)
In the" OC redraw thread" an anon recommended Loomis to me yesterday. I downloaded the books and begun FWAP today. I'm presuming this it's a coincidence given that Loomis seems to be a staple of /ic/ but it's good timing none the less.

pic rel is my first three heads. The characters are from OC Redraw, should I be making them more ball-like? Is Katie (the Kat) best?

>>7626523
>>7626525
>>7626529
Good Loomis studies, glad to see people on board

>>7626554
Balls are the easiest to work with, but you can use any weird-ass shape you want. If you ever fuck up a circle play around and make a face out of it. You may end up with something you like.

>>7626471 (OP)
>For my part I'm just a hobbyist who likes old shit
And the masks comes off.

>>7626878
You don't get to say that when it's in the OP post.

>>7626471 (OP)
>HOW FVFBYONE CAN MINOBBFAIC THEMSFLVES WITH A CHTLOBENS HOBBY

>>7626554
I'm trying to get depth and direction, am I doing this right?

>>7627628

I've done a thorough studying of fwap and fdfaiw, I'd post some examples, but I just can't be assed.
Great books though, but I personally would say you should learn cartooning from Preston Blair rather than loomis, since Loomis' cartooning was... uh... hit or miss, at the best of times.

>>7627704
>Loomis' cartooning was... uh... hit or miss, at the best of times.
Unironically, what mattered is that he was having fun

anyone else ever do the "typical problem" challenges in fdfaiw? im doing the america one except replacing america with senegal, after these going to do the magazine excerpt one again then im "done."

Drawing class tonight. Only have time for a little bit of Loomis as a warm up.

>>7627704
Blair's cartoons definitely look more appealing and the drawings are way cleaner, but I figure for a group study general Loomis' broad range of topics gives more people the opportunity to join in.

>>7627628
Try drawing through a few pages of FWaP first and then apply what you're learning to your own drawings.

>>7627959
Yer tha' boss

>>7627689
She skull is made with 6.5(with hair) "eye units" of height and ten(without hair) of width:

+0.5 More hair
+1 Hair
+1 Forehead
+1 Eye line(Like canon: 1 eye of spacing between)
+1 Cheeks
+1 Jaw and Chin

I dont always follow this because I draw she to relax. Hope this helps.

>>7628036
anon i cant see this pic from the lighting! but would like to

>>7628036
I'm new to construction, as you can tell. I appreciate the references for practice.

>>7627959
Also, I made a tough Loomis head. I'm not sure if I'm learning, but I'm definitely having fun.

>>7627858
I actually always intended to do those, but decided to hold off on them until I finish going studying through a hand full of books I wanted to get through.
They still seem like good assignments for portfolio pieces though.

Some practice for today.

>>7628048
Don't worry, sometimes it feels like learning is slow, but even just starting with copying Loomis' Blooks will start to ingrain information about construction and placing facial features that you can take to any other drawing style you want.

>>7627190
kek

>>7626471 (OP)
Put these in the OP

> Fun With A Pencil:
https://yewtu.be/playlist?list=PLYcCSctp38kc8bJeWPs_xRqR1rpIujOE3
> Figure Drawing For All It's Worth:
https://yewtu.be/playlist?list=PLG96VXAcX7tOD79VvsnxwI9Q9QQsQP6CX

>Snarling Papa
>and how!
"and how!"? just what the FUCK did he mean by this?

>>7629895
and how very snarly he is. back in loomis' day that was what the hipsters said.

>>7628961
I'm being a little facetious, I've only been at it for two days and am enjoying the practice. I do tend to avoid copying directly from the book as he repeatedly mentions wanting people to use his basics to build their own forms. I'm going to do the "draw Loomis" on pg24 and will post it tonight.

>>7629983
>he repeatedly mentions wanting people to use his basics to build their own forms.
I'll admit I also lose some interest copying things directly, it feels mechanical. Of course I recognize the purpose of study is to strengthen "mechanical" skill for future application in creative work, it's why I'm here.

>>7629983
>>7630014
I got home early, so here's my first attempt at Loomis' funny little friend.

Starting to get into the real shit now

>>7629983
I know what you mean, it's a good attitude to be enthusiastic about making your own drawings now. I've seen people just grinding out FWaP who never have the curiosity to try their own drawings. On the other hand I do think there are some things that are harder to pick up just by reading through if you're not copying at least some of his examples.

>>7629900
Zaddy finna go ham, ong frfr

Copy Loomis Twice

>>7630281
Art and faith came to me this year when I needed them most. Going into ministry, I'm interested in using art to work through personal and social problems. So expression is first, but I'm not adverse to learning.

The other thing about copying is that I begin worrying more about whether my snarling papa looks exactly like his snarling papa versus whether it successfully conveys the emotions of a snarling papa (and how!)

>>7630281
Art and faith came to me this year when I needed them most. Now, going into ministry, I'm interested in using traditional art to reconnect people dealing with personal and social problems. So expression is first, but I'm not adverse to learning.

The other thing about copying is that I begin worrying more about whether my snarling papa looks exactly like his snarling papa versus whether it successfully conveys the emotions of a snarling papa (and how!)

Playing with my balls

And some heads from today

>>7631357
There are different levels of copying. It's ok to go through and do some quicker copies to help understand the underlying concepts without worrying if you're 100% accurate. An accuracy copy is a different thing in itself, and while they're important to work on at some point you don't have to do it right now with Loomis if you're not excited by it.

>>7630378
I love this

Lil' bit of practice before I head out for a BBQ

>>7631413
Like, my pity head isn't quite pointed as downward as in his example. It conveys the right expression, but I want to make sure I can direct heads where I want them too. So there are different levels to learning through study, as you said.

>>7632363
volunteering most of the day, but had time for a few more today. Tomorrow I wont miss pg31!

>>7632363
Tomorrow I wont miss pg31!

Gave myself some homework to do a few pages of Blook Ball heads

>>7633653
You miss it and Prof. Blook is going to get snarly. And how!

Even though I kind of started FWaP for the meme to have more consistency in practice rather than going with Heads and Hands or Figure Drawing, I actually really admire the structure of the book. You start out with a vaguely round shape with some quick guide lines. Then the next step is to work towards a sphere. Then you start adding cross contour guidelines for consistency. You begin to manipulate the features on the face as you rotate them around the sphere. Then you begin adding bigger shapes onto the sphere to construct different head shapes. And then you end up learning the Loomis head that you can apply to realistically proportioned heads of you want. It's actually kind of rigorous even if you're making silly little bald dudes

>>7633844
Oops forgot the picture

>>7633844
I wouldn't want to disappoint the good Professor! I was a stubborn student, but am glad I started working through a book as opposed to simply trying to go my first year alone.

Another page of my own blooks before moving on

Another page before bed

I've got some stuff to do tonight so just one page and a little sphere practice

Trying to be clever on pg32

>>7636411
What kind of paper are you using? This almost looks like a rough watercolor paper. Since you're going to be working with line rather than tone for most of this you'd probably find this easier with a smoother drawing paper.

>>7626471 (OP)
I can't bring myself to draw smiles. I feel pretty fucking pathetic looking at how other people are progressing but I'm willing to forgive myself because I drew this on my literal first day.

Just did my first blook, felt like FWaP could be a good way to start out since everything else has been intimidating to me, and made me slow-going. I was gonna do this in actual pencil but my pressure control is shit and I only have HB and 2B on hand so I used my screenless tablet instead since I can then have multiple layers. Don't have access to a scanner anyway so this is better if I want to post. I hope I can keep up and do the entire book within a reasonable amount of time.

Some of today's work. Spheres are a fun warm up. Dunno if it's ultimately useful, but you really have to think and try to feel the form to get the contours to in the right place an wrapping realistically.

>>7637170
>>7636467
No need to feel bad. They're just funny little bald dudes to practice on so there's no stress either way. We all come at it from different places and if you just keep at it enough to at least get through the head section you'll have done a better job than me with most of the books and courses I've attempted in my life.

Some of my own for the day

>>7637170
These took an unusually long amount of time to draw, did the first 2 yesterday and the last 2 today. I've skimmed ahead a bit in the book and seems like I'll eventually get to draw bodies and stuff too. This books is actually the best I've followed so far since I can actually sorta keep up with it.
>>7637837
>>7637997
I gotta try adding accessories like pipes and earrings too.

Packing for vacation so just a little bit of study time today. Probably won't be able to post for a little bit. Remember everyone, all blooks are soulful.

>>7638776
Alright, 3 more. This was fun. Tried experimenting a bit with different shapes today. I used the circle tool for the last one, but I ended up experimenting a bit more with the hair there to compensate.

>>7636443
yeah, I'm using small pieces of my art paper I normally use for other mediums. I've been away for a few days but getting back to the more complicated stuff, I'll switch paper as well.

>>7636443
yeah, it's scarps of watercolour paper I use for other mediums. I'm back after a few days, getting into the complicated stuff and will switch to full sheets of smoother paper

>>7636443
yeah, it's scraps of watercolour paper I use for other mediums. I'm back after a few days, getting into the complicated stuff and will switch to full sheets of smoother paper

>>7640196
Just a single one today, going out soon and I'm anxious and stuff.
I was thinking of a character with one of those Animal Crossing-esque noses but with a round bottom last night when going to sleep. The hair and smile is from some anime girl with really pale skin who wears a long skirt, I don't know who she is though. Tried to recreate the smile, or snarl, from memory and didn't turn out so well. Also couldn't figure out how to make the nose look 3D without adding those equator lines to the actual sketch but I was kind of in a hurry.
Keep the momentum going!

>>7626471 (OP)
Bros please quit wasting your time on this. Loomis is useful for one, maybe too days of study not weeks and months

>>7639507
They are! I ran through the "practice" blooks on pg19.

>>7643746
Your concern is noted. It IS fun though and I'm only using a bit of my art time to running through a practice page. I've mostly been making women out of modeling clay, so Loomis reminds me to have fun with a pencil too.

>>7643847

>>7643150
Not to spam, but I wanted to add that it's good that you don't let anxiety stand in the way of doing even a little bit. Even if you only do one, it's better than none.

Very first blook. Surely I will not be one of the million begs shot dead by this book.

First 2 blooks trying out loomis studies. How am I doing?

>>7645432
Good.

I'm going back and getting to know every Blook in the book prior to advancing to the more difficult middle section. Here are the ones from pg 20, I'll be doing the ones from 21 and 22 tonight.

>>7626471 (OP)
Started studying and reading "Drawing the Head and Hands" after a long break from drawing. I'm learning a lot, but it does get a bit repetitive at times. It definitely drains your energy if you're not used to grinding the same topic.

>>7646280
Also studied a few random pages from chinese loomis to switch things up.

>>7646088
Got home late, but did a quick pg21 before bed.

>>7626471 (OP)
Any video course that teach the Loomis method?
I dislike reading books...

>>7647423
pg22 and 23

>>7651698
pg30 and 16